| Hill on the radio 23:10 - Aug 21 with 19508 views | 442Dale |
When will it ever stop? Yes there may have been some dissenting voices, as there are on here, but yet again there was as much support as you can expect tonight. Fans certainly didn’t appear overly critical during the game.
Edit: full clip in other thread. The problem here is how Dale supporters are going to be viewed in the media, Radio Manchester are obviously all over it. It’ll be the Ob next. Not necessary after a heavy defeat. [Post edited 21 Aug 2018 23:20]
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| Hill on the radio on 10:53 - Aug 22 with 2971 views | SandyDrum |
Hill's comments have now made the Match of the Day Facebook page which has over 100,000 followers.
The comments are mostly about the McGahey incident, i bet Harrison feels so much better knowing that him being taken off free kicks was cheered is now known about by a much bigger audience than if Hill had just kept his mouth shut. |  |
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| Hill on the radio on 11:19 - Aug 22 with 2886 views | EllDale |
I've always backed Hill all the way but I was left cold after reading that.
"I've made sacrifices," he says.
So have I, investing my time and money for years, money that is a sizeable chunk of my income. | | | |
| Hill on the radio on 11:24 - Aug 22 with 2869 views | MoonyDale |
"Not for people who don't respect me" You earn respect, you are not given it unconditionally especially when it's not returned to the majority of the fan base who are supportive no matter what. Tarring us all with the same brush really pisses some of us off.....It's not the first time and it won't be the last. And what sacrifices has he made? Turned down a big move to a bigger club? I doubt it .......Tried that and fell flat on his face, good contract, well paid safe job, percentage of profits from transfers , he needs to give his ego a wash on 90 degrees and see if he can shrink it a touch.... |  |
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| Hill on the radio on 11:25 - Aug 22 with 2864 views | rochdale_ranger |
Looks like this season is going to be a continuation of the us and them mentality from Hill and perhaps the club. As long as he has his tongue up the chairman and the board of directors arses it would appear he can say what he likes about the paying mugs. |  | | |
| Hill on the radio on 11:34 - Aug 22 with 2826 views | JimmyRustler |
It's been common knowledge for a long time than he's an idiot but he's truly taking the piss now. He's using his past success and the fact he's still well firmly in credit with the club as a stick to beat the supporters with, the large majority of which are still 100% behind him.
He will always be a special figure when it comes to Rochdale football club but I've lost all patience with his personality and I'm finding it harder and harder to support a club that I love when I thoroughly dislike the man at the helm |  | | |
| Hill on the radio on 12:00 - Aug 22 with 2750 views | nordenblue |
| Hill on the radio on 11:34 - Aug 22 by JimmyRustler |
It's been common knowledge for a long time than he's an idiot but he's truly taking the piss now. He's using his past success and the fact he's still well firmly in credit with the club as a stick to beat the supporters with, the large majority of which are still 100% behind him.
He will always be a special figure when it comes to Rochdale football club but I've lost all patience with his personality and I'm finding it harder and harder to support a club that I love when I thoroughly dislike the man at the helm |
I'd have to fully agree with you on this one, can't knock what his done at the club but it seems like he's tries his hardest to come across as an absolute egotastic pillock | | | |
| Hill on the radio on 12:27 - Aug 22 with 2675 views | BillyRudd |
| Hill on the radio on 08:24 - Aug 22 by AReeves |
Hilly is the best manager we have ever had, great fit to the club and 99% of fans wouldn't want to see him leave ...... but seriously sick of this type of comments from him.
You work in Football man, guess what , you're going to get -
Critized by fans
Have people who dont agree with you
Have bad days / matches like last night
Have few idiots in your ear with moronic comments
2 choices - Grow a thicker skin or do one and leave
Not sure there's any football club where the above things arent going to happen
As above 99% of sensible fans wouldn't want you to leave and as a club we need to be very re-realistic about what could happen (the John Coleman days still have a lot of us waking up in a cold sweat !!)
Vast majority of Dale fans are loyal, long suffering and do support the players
So seriously man stop playing the martyr / woe is me card - Its wearing a bit thin |
Thats it in a nutshell for me regarding Hill. As the old saying goes, "the difference between God and Hill is that God knows he,s not a football manager".
Its a truism that the vast majority of fans will tolerate lack of ability if the effort is there and for me there was no lack of effort last night. We just came up against a team that simply took your breath away. It was mesmeric and their tempo even at 4 up was unbelievable.
Regarding the Lillis substitution, fans perception of it and their reactions, I suspect covered the whole range (at the time) of those mentioned on here and is understandable. Hills reaction after time to reflect is not.
I sit in the main stand and not until Lillis had got to the touchline and was clutching his side and talking to a Rochdale member of staff was I convinced the substitution was due to injury. You might think I am stupid in not realising the true situation straight away but in my defence I would add the following points.
Lillis has been a fine keeper for us over the years who has been subjected to the ignomy of being dropped for a grossly overweight Logan, openly criticised for his distribution and dropped to accomadate the loan signing Perrara for game time purposes. Coupled with Hillys constant attempts to stick round pegs in square holes that unfortunately truly baffles the supporters but rarely the opposition and yes my immediate reaction was "oh no NOT Lillis being scapegoated".
It was telling to me that Hill made reference in one of his post match interviews to fans having favourites and I think deep down there is an element of jealousy there, because for all his talents, for which Hill is tolerated, Hill for many is never going to be a favourite until such time as he either grows a thicker skin, goes deaf or learns to keep a dignified silence.
You would have seriously thought he would have learned from the "your getting sacked in the morning" pie dropping incident. | | | |
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| Hill on the radio on 13:25 - Aug 22 with 2550 views | upthedale |
| Hill on the radio on 11:19 - Aug 22 by EllDale |
I've always backed Hill all the way but I was left cold after reading that.
"I've made sacrifices," he says.
So have I, investing my time and money for years, money that is a sizeable chunk of my income. |
Completely agree, I've backed him all the way too.
I get frustrated with the shouts of "get it forward" two minutes into a game and the negativity that creeps in almost before a ball is kicked by a few fans here and there.
But Hill has to understand that some (the very small minority mentioned above) will voice an opinion all the time because they're grumpy and have nothing better to do than complain. He then has to understand that some people's breaking point might be 4-0 down at home when we could easily let in another few goals (and after watching the previous home game).
This interview is a really, really poor one and one Hill should correct to "some fans".....but won't....as we all know! |  | | |
| Hill on the radio on 13:45 - Aug 22 with 2497 views | pioneer |
Anyone know the chairman’s phone number? | | | |
| Hill on the radio on 14:05 - Aug 22 with 2428 views | nordenblue |
| Hill on the radio on 11:24 - Aug 22 by MoonyDale |
"Not for people who don't respect me" You earn respect, you are not given it unconditionally especially when it's not returned to the majority of the fan base who are supportive no matter what. Tarring us all with the same brush really pisses some of us off.....It's not the first time and it won't be the last. And what sacrifices has he made? Turned down a big move to a bigger club? I doubt it .......Tried that and fell flat on his face, good contract, well paid safe job, percentage of profits from transfers , he needs to give his ego a wash on 90 degrees and see if he can shrink it a touch.... |
Perfect post,He's "made sacrifices" for this club,sweet Jesus spare us it all Hilly, he's ridiculously overpaid to begin with, for what he actually do and is in a truly privileged position.
Every person who's employed makes some sacrifices linked to their job/home life,do us a favour | | | |
| Hill on the radio on 14:23 - Aug 22 with 2380 views | RowZ |
Firstly, plenty of members of the pearl st gave Josh a standing ovation, clapped, and sang "there's only one Josh Lillis" as he left the field (I personally did not hear any booing)... it was slightly more obvious that he had taken a knock from that end of the ground. Nevertheless, as many have already pointed out, why is he not being taken off before we faced a Barnsley free-kick in a very dangerous area. If Keith had any nouse about him he'd have told Josh to go down, and the substitution would have to take place.
Secondly, I think Hill seriously overestimates what the fans think of him... not one member of the crowd cheered or clapped at the fact that Harrison was being taken off free-kicks because of how poorly he had taken them during the game (which I don't dispute)... we were cheering at the fact that our manager had finally decided to come to his senses and tell his 6ft+ centre half to get into the box/ not take set pieces in key and dangerous areas.
I can only speak for myself and those sat near to me in the stand, I felt not one ounce of anger towards Harrison himself for the level of free kicks that he took. I only felt bemusement and anger at yet another ridiculous tactical decision by the manager himself. I clapped, cheered, jeered or whatever you'd like to call it directly at the manager.
Now though, the fans have been outed in the media for getting on the back of a 22-year-old defender which in reality is a total lie.
Baldy Mourinho indeed. | | | |
| Hill on the radio on 14:46 - Aug 22 with 2329 views | DaleFan7 |
| Hill on the radio on 14:23 - Aug 22 by RowZ |
Firstly, plenty of members of the pearl st gave Josh a standing ovation, clapped, and sang "there's only one Josh Lillis" as he left the field (I personally did not hear any booing)... it was slightly more obvious that he had taken a knock from that end of the ground. Nevertheless, as many have already pointed out, why is he not being taken off before we faced a Barnsley free-kick in a very dangerous area. If Keith had any nouse about him he'd have told Josh to go down, and the substitution would have to take place.
Secondly, I think Hill seriously overestimates what the fans think of him... not one member of the crowd cheered or clapped at the fact that Harrison was being taken off free-kicks because of how poorly he had taken them during the game (which I don't dispute)... we were cheering at the fact that our manager had finally decided to come to his senses and tell his 6ft+ centre half to get into the box/ not take set pieces in key and dangerous areas.
I can only speak for myself and those sat near to me in the stand, I felt not one ounce of anger towards Harrison himself for the level of free kicks that he took. I only felt bemusement and anger at yet another ridiculous tactical decision by the manager himself. I clapped, cheered, jeered or whatever you'd like to call it directly at the manager.
Now though, the fans have been outed in the media for getting on the back of a 22-year-old defender which in reality is a total lie.
Baldy Mourinho indeed. |
McGahey imo has been our best player since he joined other than Hendo. Bit dodgy last few games but no worse than the ones he's playing next to.
How anyone thinks it's a good idea to have him taking free kicks and not be in the box for them I don't know.
He didn't go into the opponents box for the free kick that people ironically cheered for, he went and marked their striker on the half way line. Surely a job for someone smaller so he can get in the box? If say pacier but he's probably one of our quickest players. | | | |
| Hill on the radio on 15:17 - Aug 22 with 2274 views | dingdangblue |
| Hill on the radio on 13:45 - Aug 22 by pioneer |
Anyone know the chairman’s phone number? |
Dale23years is the best one to ask - he must have called him already? |  |
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| Hill on the radio on 15:24 - Aug 22 with 2250 views | deeplishblue |
| Hill on the radio on 14:46 - Aug 22 by DaleFan7 |
McGahey imo has been our best player since he joined other than Hendo. Bit dodgy last few games but no worse than the ones he's playing next to.
How anyone thinks it's a good idea to have him taking free kicks and not be in the box for them I don't know.
He didn't go into the opponents box for the free kick that people ironically cheered for, he went and marked their striker on the half way line. Surely a job for someone smaller so he can get in the box? If say pacier but he's probably one of our quickest players. |
I think that you have sort of answered your own query.
Harrison hangs back at set pieces to cover the breakaway - he has a lot of pace and this is usually a good tactic.
If he can take a free kick, then quickly return to the centre circle to guard against an attack then this would free up free up another person to have in the box. |  |
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| Hill on the radio on 15:32 - Aug 22 with 2212 views | DaleFan7 |
| Hill on the radio on 15:24 - Aug 22 by deeplishblue |
I think that you have sort of answered your own query.
Harrison hangs back at set pieces to cover the breakaway - he has a lot of pace and this is usually a good tactic.
If he can take a free kick, then quickly return to the centre circle to guard against an attack then this would free up free up another person to have in the box. |
Clearly didn't work too well last night. 3 of their goals were quick break aways.
I think we should have all the tall people in the box who are going to be some sort of ariel threat and have someone smaller like Nthle back. | | | |
| Hill on the radio on 15:39 - Aug 22 with 2192 views | DaleiLama |
| Hill on the radio on 11:19 - Aug 22 by EllDale |
I've always backed Hill all the way but I was left cold after reading that.
"I've made sacrifices," he says.
So have I, investing my time and money for years, money that is a sizeable chunk of my income. |
Could it just be possible that he's referring to his dad passing away after a long illness last year - I believe he lived in the States? I suppose he missed out on the last months of his father's life due to his management responsibilities.
Bit like the Lillis substitution, I am giving him the benefit of the doubt. I may be in the minority, but I can live with that. If I were Keith, I'd send Beechy in to bat for the rest of this season's post-match interviews. The drama is supposed to be on the pitch, not off it. |  |
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| Hill on the radio on 15:42 - Aug 22 with 2182 views | DaleyBrent |
I rarely ever comment on this forum, however this whole situation has quite frankly infuriated me. I was one of the 'majority' who booed neither the free kick switch, or the goalkeeper situation. I trust Hilly's judgment as a manager as he proves time and time again that he has a special talent of overachieving with Rochdale FC. Thus deeming 99% of the fans to be more than happy for him to be at the managerial helm at the football club...
However, these comment's are so arrogant and egotistical its made my blood boil. We were simply beaten by a much better team last night. No matter what we'd of done we would have been comfortably beaten. I was personally far more upset with the way we played at Fleetwood at the weekend. That was the wake up call for me.
What has come of Hilly's media comments other than an almost national backlash against the club and us supporters? How is he so thin-skinned to take a minorities opinions and express his concern to the national press? Wheres the management in that? Its happened time and time again and just makes me think is it even worth him speaking with the media anymore?
Stick solely to FOOTBALL management for a bit Hilly. We can all trust you on that. But these media comments are such a PR disaster its untrue. A bad day at the office. |  | | |
| Hill on the radio on 16:18 - Aug 22 with 2103 views | Scunnydale |
I remember when Baldy Mourinho was meant as a compliment. Sadly, it still applies. |  | | |
| Hill on the radio on 16:24 - Aug 22 with 2086 views | dalenumber2 |
I think we should be writing to the chairman, not to ask for Hill to be sacked, but to tell him to have a word about how Hill presents to the media. |  | | |
| Hill on the radio on 16:56 - Aug 22 with 2023 views | electricblue |
Does Hill have it in the back of his mind that his is unsackable hence the hoiler than thou ego his seems to come across within his interviews.
Does the chairman seen to think that the sun shines out of Hills you know what..
For me hill as been excellent for the club but like many other managers they have a shelf life Wenger was one and it could be that hill as reached his at Dale..
But then again Dale have been down this road before and the grass isnt greener.
Two words.
Eyre.
Coleman.
Do supporters want to risk a similar manager to those two at the club.
No i dont think so..... |  |
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| Hill on the radio on 17:17 - Aug 22 with 1972 views | kiwidale |
| Hill on the radio on 16:56 - Aug 22 by electricblue |
Does Hill have it in the back of his mind that his is unsackable hence the hoiler than thou ego his seems to come across within his interviews.
Does the chairman seen to think that the sun shines out of Hills you know what..
For me hill as been excellent for the club but like many other managers they have a shelf life Wenger was one and it could be that hill as reached his at Dale..
But then again Dale have been down this road before and the grass isnt greener.
Two words.
Eyre.
Coleman.
Do supporters want to risk a similar manager to those two at the club.
No i dont think so..... |
This is just an opinion if you disagree that's fine just leave the name calling out its not necessary.
If Hill was to go he would leave the club in the best shape its ever been in and his legacy would be the best manager we have ever had there is no question about that. The comment about Wenger is apt his legacy at Arsenal was tarnished he should have left before the fans called for him to be sacked. I lean towards the view that Hill has over achieved at Rochdale his talents maybe best suited to a club with better resources who can match his ambition the only thing that can stop him is his ego.
edit the first bit was not directed at you EB [Post edited 22 Aug 2018 17:20]
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| Hill on the radio on 17:27 - Aug 22 with 1946 views | boromat |
The whole world is talking about Hill and the fans and that's exactly what he wanted. You'd have thought the 4 nil battering hadn't happened.
I feel like most Dale fans have become accustomed to this tactic but then theres always a few that take it as an opportunity to have a good dig at him.
Hopefully it works, eases the pressure on the players and they do the business on Saturday in front of us fans that turn up regardless of the previous result. | |
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| Hill on the radio on 17:36 - Aug 22 with 1925 views | James1980 |
I think we might be missing the point entirely. I think he was saying, in the ground, get behind the players and don't boo them or make ironic cheers. If we don't want Keith Hill as manager contact the supporters trust and chairman outside of game time. Yes it came across as how dare you criticise me but I think that he was saying by all means criticise me but don't let it affect the players morale | |
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| Hill on the radio on 17:39 - Aug 22 with 1914 views | TVOS1907 |
| Hill on the radio on 17:36 - Aug 22 by James1980 |
I think we might be missing the point entirely. I think he was saying, in the ground, get behind the players and don't boo them or make ironic cheers. If we don't want Keith Hill as manager contact the supporters trust and chairman outside of game time. Yes it came across as how dare you criticise me but I think that he was saying by all means criticise me but don't let it affect the players morale |
I think you need to listen to it again, James. |  |
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