| Brexit .... My thoughts... 11:07 - Jun 16 with 146128 views | JacksDad |
The one thing I am certain of re this vote is that no-one knows for sure what the repercussions economically will be if we pull out. If you listen to the experts it will be better if we stay in, however its all unconvincing. My issue is that after 10 years of Austerity, the services in this country have been cut to the bone, that is services that are needed by us all - not just Immigrants/benefit spongers. We are not in a position to afford the enormous gamble if it all goes t1ts up. I am taking my lead from Ray Winston and gambling responsibly and staying in. If we ever get to situation when everything is adequately funded and horrible 0 hours contracts were abolished ... then maybe it might be worth the risk to pull out. But to do it now is a massive gamble which we just cannot afford to lose. |  | | |  |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 12:54 - Jul 6 with 2096 views | essextaxiboy |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 12:33 - Jul 6 by Brightonhoop |
Carry on talking the country down, Essex? Pound hit 1.16 against the Euro this morning, but dont let facts get in the way of a dumb ideology.
As wel as the propertty cash outs, Londons biggest lenders to foreign investors started advising caution on London last week and have since declined all Loan requests on a far too high risk basis.
It's a crash, just no one dare mention it. It's an absolute car crash and hasn't even started yet. That's not talking anything down but fact, when Article 50 is finally triggered. then the wheels really come off.
See that stable economy with potential for growth we had back in May? Gone for a decade. Maybe two,. But at least you gotch yer kuntry back. lol
Boris and Fromage looked over the trenches onto the battlefield, turned and ran. Fact. |
1, Its been only 11 days ....
2 , Show me a post where I spoke about getting my country back ( note the lack of a veiled insult there)
3, Only Farage could be accused of running scared and he actually isnt a MP so didnt have to sort anything .The Boris thing was different.
4 ...again ..Its only been 11 days |  | | |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 13:05 - Jul 6 with 2071 views | DannytheR |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 12:54 - Jul 6 by essextaxiboy |
1, Its been only 11 days ....
2 , Show me a post where I spoke about getting my country back ( note the lack of a veiled insult there)
3, Only Farage could be accused of running scared and he actually isnt a MP so didnt have to sort anything .The Boris thing was different.
4 ...again ..Its only been 11 days |
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| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 13:14 - Jul 6 with 2038 views | Brightonhoop |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 12:48 - Jul 6 by Mytch_QPR |
That's why I don't think they will trigger A50. By the time they get round to doing that the damage will be very apparent and they will probably have to have a rethink to prevent a meltdown.
It sounds unlikely but it's just possible that they do know what they are doing (the politicians, that is) but they're doing a very passable impression of a bunch of headless chickens who don't know their collective arses / elbows. Clever, eh? |
Let's hope so Mytch. I wonder at which point the Generals step in to salvage what remains of the UK economy and retain the remaining Gold at BoE?
Essex, only 11 days you say? Where do you think the UK economy will be in 11 days time based on the current trajectory of fcking disaster? No vieled offence intended at the 'got the country back' to you personally but that was the basis presented and what far too many people voted on and for, a complete falsehood, like the £350 Mill for the NHS pedalled by Fromage and Boris who need locking up for treason. And the real run on the economy is yet to come. |  | | |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 13:17 - Jul 6 with 2036 views | essextaxiboy |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 13:14 - Jul 6 by Brightonhoop |
Let's hope so Mytch. I wonder at which point the Generals step in to salvage what remains of the UK economy and retain the remaining Gold at BoE?
Essex, only 11 days you say? Where do you think the UK economy will be in 11 days time based on the current trajectory of fcking disaster? No vieled offence intended at the 'got the country back' to you personally but that was the basis presented and what far too many people voted on and for, a complete falsehood, like the £350 Mill for the NHS pedalled by Fromage and Boris who need locking up for treason. And the real run on the economy is yet to come. |
Sorry about the offence bit .I know you wasnt calling me that and I still posted it .....let meself down there .. | | | |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 13:20 - Jul 6 with 2018 views | Brightonhoop |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 13:17 - Jul 6 by essextaxiboy |
Sorry about the offence bit .I know you wasnt calling me that and I still posted it .....let meself down there .. |
No worries on that one at all.
I'd genuinely get the Generals back in. BoE is losing Gold like confetti and it needs halting in its tracks before the BoE collapses, that is where this is headed. IMHO | | | |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 13:24 - Jul 6 with 2025 views | bob566 |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 13:14 - Jul 6 by Brightonhoop |
Let's hope so Mytch. I wonder at which point the Generals step in to salvage what remains of the UK economy and retain the remaining Gold at BoE?
Essex, only 11 days you say? Where do you think the UK economy will be in 11 days time based on the current trajectory of fcking disaster? No vieled offence intended at the 'got the country back' to you personally but that was the basis presented and what far too many people voted on and for, a complete falsehood, like the £350 Mill for the NHS pedalled by Fromage and Boris who need locking up for treason. And the real run on the economy is yet to come. |
do you think there'll be a run on the banks Brighton?
It will be carnage if that happens | | | |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 13:33 - Jul 6 with 1986 views | Brightonhoop |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 13:24 - Jul 6 by bob566 |
do you think there'll be a run on the banks Brighton?
It will be carnage if that happens |
Not wanting to talk the UK or Economy down ( my rent and outgoings have gone up by about 15% since the vote so a useless pound to me is a useless pound) It's the ideal opportunity for them to rip us all off twice. The Italian Banks had a major wobble yesterday and nearly, very nearly, fell over as a direct result of Brexit, and the pound has still fallen despite one of the larger Euro economies nearly falling over yesterday. And these are Banks we've told have been stress tested to oblivion....
IMHO yes, we are days away from a run on the banks despite the liquidity of £150 Bn from BoE, commercial and domestic property is on the brink. And the City of London is preparing to head off into the EU.
The biggest problem we have got is that Parliament, is in cahoots with the Corporations to fleece the British people and economy for their own gain.
I would genuinely welcome a Military coup now in the UK, suspending Parliament for 12 months because I cannot see the BoE having any Gold left by Xmas on this trajectory of collapse. | | | |
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| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 14:33 - Jul 6 with 1949 views | TacticalR |
I think it's important to study the deeper decay of the British economy rather than the daily fluctuations of the stock market.
'First estimates for 2014 suggest that output per hour in the UK was 20 percentage points below the average for the rest of the major G7 advanced economies, the widest productivity gap since comparable estimates began in 1991'
'UK productivity in 2014 was...lower than that of France, Germany and the US by 32-33 percentage points'
International Comparisons of Productivity - First Estimates: 2014 (Office for National Statistics, 18 September 2015)
http://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/economicoutputandproductivity/productivitymeasures
'Many countries have suffered a productivity slowdown since the financial crisis, but the UK’s experience has been particularly bad: its workers are now 14 per cent less productive than they would have been if the pre-crisis growth trend had continued.'
UK productivity falls by most since financial crisis (FT, 7 April 2016)
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e8b0639c-fcaa-11e5-b5f5-070dca6d0a0d.html |  |
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| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 19:43 - Jul 6 with 1861 views | TheBlob |
The banks are going to go down - not a question of if but when.They're all cross contaminated by spreading the load on derivatives,and when the first big one goes down Brexit won't be to blame although they'll try.Rotten to the core since 2008,which one first?Santander?Deutsche Bank?There will be a lot of squawking when the deposits within get used for bailout money.Don't forget now when you put your loot into a bank it's no longer yours - it's the property of the bank to do whatever they want. |  |
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| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 20:50 - Jul 6 with 2346 views | stumbleandfall |
The article is over three years old. | | | |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 22:38 - Jul 6 with 2276 views | Brightonhoop |
Italy is an interesting one. It has the fourth largest gold reserve in the world, behind USA, Germany and the IMF. About 9 times that of the BoE! It came from Mussolini, he made all gold state property, from wedding rings to gold teeth.
So how can Italy ever go bankrupt? Why has it made zero growth n 15 years?
Maybe Gold is a curse but with none left.... [Post edited 6 Jul 2016 22:39]
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| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 06:52 - Jul 7 with 2219 views | Honkytonks |
Activate article 50 like the majority have democratically voted for!... not try to appease those who democratically lost the vote! | | | |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 06:57 - Jul 7 with 2219 views | easthertsr |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 06:52 - Jul 7 by Honkytonks |
Activate article 50 like the majority have democratically voted for!... not try to appease those who democratically lost the vote! |
Actually they didn't, they voted if they wanted to leave the EU, they were not asked how and when that should happen. | | | |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 06:59 - Jul 7 with 2212 views | Honkytonks |
The vote was to leave and leave we shall! | | | |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 08:50 - Jul 7 with 2182 views | loftboy |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 06:52 - Jul 7 by Honkytonks |
Activate article 50 like the majority have democratically voted for!... not try to appease those who democratically lost the vote! |
Yes just press the bloody button and get on with it. |  |
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| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 08:55 - Jul 7 with 2176 views | Mytch_QPR |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 08:50 - Jul 7 by loftboy |
Yes just press the bloody button and get on with it. |
Why do you think they're waiting?
EU Council have told us to get on with it too.
Meanwhile, ministers taking advice realise how much worse off we're going to be.
I'll believe it when I see it. |  |
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| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 09:01 - Jul 7 with 2169 views | loftboy |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 08:55 - Jul 7 by Mytch_QPR |
Why do you think they're waiting?
EU Council have told us to get on with it too.
Meanwhile, ministers taking advice realise how much worse off we're going to be.
I'll believe it when I see it. |
The only thing that would get me to change my mind would be cor our judges to have the final say over the European court I human rights when it comes to deporting dangerous terrorists and criminals | |
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| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 09:28 - Jul 7 with 2154 views | Brightonhoop |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 09:01 - Jul 7 by loftboy |
The only thing that would get me to change my mind would be cor our judges to have the final say over the European court I human rights when it comes to deporting dangerous terrorists and criminals |
ECHR and EU are completely different entities, but I agree with you, ECHR needs to evolve from it's 9/10 decent decisions and laws or risk making itself redundant. It's just part of Human evolution that we've arrived at this current place, and yes, not being able to exclude or imprison dangerous people posing threats to the whole community, is absurd.
The other matter is Junker (I've taken to calling him Mr Junker Bomber) he needs to be retired (I'm sure the Greeks would welcome him with open arms) to allow the next generation to come through, who also have to evolve beyond his stance as a Nazi Prison Guard. The man alone has wrecked Europe through intransigence and sheer bloody stupidity. I'm sure the tw4t thinks he's Nero.
I also think the EU will evolve into something much better, much more humble and less autocratic, it has to, evolve or die. Sad we've ruled ourselves out of it in the future IMHO. | | | |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 09:34 - Jul 7 with 2152 views | PinnerPaul |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 11:04 - Jul 6 by DannytheR |
"You are right . The 250 more accurately reflects the UK alone. I include the 100 because it was the chief execs of these companys that said we should stay in."
I hope you've got help moving all these goalposts. You're going to do your back in.
Give it up, man. Honestly. |
Couple of quick questions
1) Did Nige manage to put the Great back in Great Britain before he left?
2) Where's that first shiny new hospital being built? | | | |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 09:40 - Jul 7 with 2143 views | TheBlob |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 09:34 - Jul 7 by PinnerPaul |
Couple of quick questions
1) Did Nige manage to put the Great back in Great Britain before he left?
2) Where's that first shiny new hospital being built? |
I'd be very wary of going in a hospital that had been thrown up in two weeks. | |
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| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 09:56 - Jul 7 with 2126 views | DannytheR |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 09:01 - Jul 7 by loftboy |
The only thing that would get me to change my mind would be cor our judges to have the final say over the European court I human rights when it comes to deporting dangerous terrorists and criminals |
But the European Court of Human Rights is a different organisation.
On that score it literally makes no difference whether we're in the EU or not. | | | |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 10:01 - Jul 7 with 2102 views | stumbleandfall |
| Brexit .... My thoughts... on 09:01 - Jul 7 by loftboy |
The only thing that would get me to change my mind would be cor our judges to have the final say over the European court I human rights when it comes to deporting dangerous terrorists and criminals |
Such utter horseshit that sovereignty claim.
No one has ever woken up in a cold sweat worrying about a Brussels judge decisions.
Where's the passionate criticisms of the reals issues of national sovereignty perfectly demonstrated this week.
800 useless unelected Lords. Iran and UK only nations to have unelected clergy in government.
Media puppeteers.
Tax evasion of the rich.
Low Corp tax.
Eradication of workers rights.
150000 blue rinsers deciding next pm.
Look at Leadsom. Classic opportunistic flip flopper. Lies about cv and classical tax evasion. Bankrolled by that loathsome Banks. Candidate of choice for Britain First. And possibly next pm.
That's democracy failing us. [Post edited 7 Jul 2016 12:31]
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