| Corona Virus 22:39 - Mar 7 with 508138 views | SgorioFruit |
Sorry for new thread,
But how bad do you lot reckon it’s going to get here in the UK?
I just been watching the news. Looking nasty in Italy. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 22:48 - Jun 5 with 2137 views | Professor |
Japan and Korea did not really lock down but employed distancing, masks and a proper trace and test system which meant they never got to exponential growth. |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 22:51 - Jun 5 with 2128 views | Scotia |
| Corona Virus on 22:04 - Jun 5 by Zaxx |
Criteria for suspected cases?
Possibly suspected without being proven via testing?
One would guess that the outcome of those tests would be imminent... |
Like Alok Sharma then?
Very mysterious, do you know what that outcome will be.......? | | | |
| Corona Virus on 23:03 - Jun 5 with 2101 views | longlostjack |
Ceteris paribus |  |
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| Corona Virus on 07:12 - Jun 6 with 2019 views | Scotia |
| Corona Virus on 22:37 - Jun 5 by controversial_jack |
Not strictly true. for Morriston anyway.Suspected cases that come through A&E, which all must, test the patients and then send them as suspected to the ward while awaiting the results. There is one ward still being used for suspected cases.the ward is not being closed for covid patients, but a section of it is still going to remain open
There have been some who have tested positive recently, but not many, so don't relax yet.This is just for those that get tested, many more will have the virus but not need hospitalisation, so the virus is still out there and very infectious |
Anyone with symptoms can now get tested, there are frequently around 3000 tests a day in Wales with capacity for more.
For the last week or so there have been an average of around 50 cases in Wales, the majority in Betsi Cadwalladr health board. There are ofen no new cases recorded in Swansea.
It is still around but in drastically reduced numbers, enough for a regional relax in lockdown at least. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 08:09 - Jun 6 with 1994 views | Dr_Winston |
| Corona Virus on 07:12 - Jun 6 by Scotia |
Anyone with symptoms can now get tested, there are frequently around 3000 tests a day in Wales with capacity for more.
For the last week or so there have been an average of around 50 cases in Wales, the majority in Betsi Cadwalladr health board. There are ofen no new cases recorded in Swansea.
It is still around but in drastically reduced numbers, enough for a regional relax in lockdown at least. |
Yup. No reason why most local businesses of whatever description can't begin to reopen with appropriate social distancing measures. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 08:17 - Jun 6 with 1986 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Corona Virus on 08:09 - Jun 6 by Dr_Winston |
Yup. No reason why most local businesses of whatever description can't begin to reopen with appropriate social distancing measures. |
Good. I’m gagging for a haircut |  |
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| Corona Virus on 09:35 - Jun 6 with 1951 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Corona Virus on 21:48 - Jun 5 by longlostjack |
You’re second paragraph is complete and utter nonsense. Had they not prepared and been overwhelmed by cases, they’d have been accused of clueless governance and NHS mismanagement. In fairness it‘s one of the very few things they actually got right. |
Yes let's kill people with known illnesses by saving beds & facilities for patients that might get ill.
Of course that makes perfect sense. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 10:40 - Jun 6 with 1911 views | Zaxx |
| Corona Virus on 22:51 - Jun 5 by Scotia |
Like Alok Sharma then?
Very mysterious, do you know what that outcome will be.......? |
I have no idea if Alok was admitted to hospital. He was symptomatic by the looks of it though.
I was referring to the number of patients currently admitted with suspected cases of Covid-19 in the SBUHB. On 31st May that number was 16, on June 2nd it was 43.
Small numbers, hence a large % increase.
Hopefully it is not indicative of a spike in transmission rates in this area and secondly, that these patients so not become critically ill. |  | | |
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| Corona Virus on 11:41 - Jun 6 with 1883 views | Scotia |
| Corona Virus on 10:40 - Jun 6 by Zaxx |
I have no idea if Alok was admitted to hospital. He was symptomatic by the looks of it though.
I was referring to the number of patients currently admitted with suspected cases of Covid-19 in the SBUHB. On 31st May that number was 16, on June 2nd it was 43.
Small numbers, hence a large % increase.
Hopefully it is not indicative of a spike in transmission rates in this area and secondly, that these patients so not become critically ill. |
I meant Alok Sharma being symptomatic but testing negative.
That is an alarming number. If confirmed it would almost double the usual daily total in Wales before considering those not in hospital. [Post edited 6 Jun 2020 11:42]
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| Corona Virus on 12:33 - Jun 6 with 1843 views | karnataka |
| Corona Virus on 10:40 - Jun 6 by Zaxx |
I have no idea if Alok was admitted to hospital. He was symptomatic by the looks of it though.
I was referring to the number of patients currently admitted with suspected cases of Covid-19 in the SBUHB. On 31st May that number was 16, on June 2nd it was 43.
Small numbers, hence a large % increase.
Hopefully it is not indicative of a spike in transmission rates in this area and secondly, that these patients so not become critically ill. |
Same sort of increases in our area, Sout West England. Our R0 has just gone above 1. |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 12:49 - Jun 6 with 1838 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 10:40 - Jun 6 by Zaxx |
I have no idea if Alok was admitted to hospital. He was symptomatic by the looks of it though.
I was referring to the number of patients currently admitted with suspected cases of Covid-19 in the SBUHB. On 31st May that number was 16, on June 2nd it was 43.
Small numbers, hence a large % increase.
Hopefully it is not indicative of a spike in transmission rates in this area and secondly, that these patients so not become critically ill. |
If you are saying that infections in hospitals alone in just Swansea have increased by 27 in 2 days, then quite transparently the numbers reported by PHW are a waste of time as they are so inaccurate. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 12:50 - Jun 6 with 1835 views | Zaxx |
| Corona Virus on 12:33 - Jun 6 by karnataka |
Same sort of increases in our area, Sout West England. Our R0 has just gone above 1. |
It is worrying, let's hope that it doesn't take off again. Stay safe over there.
Back to Scotia's point, there have been some surprising results from the tests for covid. A few people I know who displayed clear symptoms, often a few in fact, very surprisingly tested negative. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 12:54 - Jun 6 with 1824 views | Zaxx |
| Corona Virus on 12:49 - Jun 6 by londonlisa2001 |
If you are saying that infections in hospitals alone in just Swansea have increased by 27 in 2 days, then quite transparently the numbers reported by PHW are a waste of time as they are so inaccurate. |
Numbers of patients "currently admitted with suspected cases" in SBUHB.
A colleague of mine messaged that info from a screenshot of SBUHB's official site.
They're not updating daily at the moment so it does look worse. Also, with small numbers any variation throws a large % change.
I've no idea what the ratio of suspected cases turning into positive tests are but yup, there's a small bounce in the amount of suspected cases. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 13:26 - Jun 6 with 1806 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 12:54 - Jun 6 by Zaxx |
Numbers of patients "currently admitted with suspected cases" in SBUHB.
A colleague of mine messaged that info from a screenshot of SBUHB's official site.
They're not updating daily at the moment so it does look worse. Also, with small numbers any variation throws a large % change.
I've no idea what the ratio of suspected cases turning into positive tests are but yup, there's a small bounce in the amount of suspected cases. |
When you see the official figures it could just be that in an abundance of caution anyone with any chance at all of having the virus is ‘suspected’ until the test comes back.
In which case, just people with hay fever will be suspected (it’s dreadful at the moment - worst I’ve ever had).
It’s sensible as a precaution, but those numbers look completely out of sync with positive cases. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 14:10 - Jun 6 with 1781 views | Scotia |
| Corona Virus on 13:26 - Jun 6 by londonlisa2001 |
When you see the official figures it could just be that in an abundance of caution anyone with any chance at all of having the virus is ‘suspected’ until the test comes back.
In which case, just people with hay fever will be suspected (it’s dreadful at the moment - worst I’ve ever had).
It’s sensible as a precaution, but those numbers look completely out of sync with positive cases. |
I suspect that is exactly what it is and I suppose in a hospital every precaution has to be taken.
Just 1 confirmed case in Swansea / Neath Port Talbot yesterday. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 15:05 - Jun 6 with 1753 views | Dr_Winston |
My figures came from someone who's worked on the CV ward in Morriston. Might be some slight fluctuation since then but an increase like that would be something of a surprise given the consistently low confirmed infection rate recently. | |
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| Corona Virus on 15:40 - Jun 6 with 1739 views | controversial_jack |
| Corona Virus on 15:05 - Jun 6 by Dr_Winston |
My figures came from someone who's worked on the CV ward in Morriston. Might be some slight fluctuation since then but an increase like that would be something of a surprise given the consistently low confirmed infection rate recently. |
The CV ward in Morriston has had more patients in today, and a few suspected too. Far too early to relax | | | |
| Corona Virus on 15:51 - Jun 6 with 1729 views | Flashberryjack |
| Corona Virus on 08:09 - Jun 6 by Dr_Winston |
Yup. No reason why most local businesses of whatever description can't begin to reopen with appropriate social distancing measures. |
If thousands are allowed to demonstrate in London, I see no reason why businesses shouldn't be allowed to reopen if they want. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 16:01 - Jun 6 with 1719 views | DJack |
| Corona Virus on 15:51 - Jun 6 by Flashberryjack |
If thousands are allowed to demonstrate in London, I see no reason why businesses shouldn't be allowed to reopen if they want. |
Those that chose to exercise their right to protest whilst risking infection did/do so willingly. If businesses are allowed to open whilst there is still a major risk then staff have no choice other than being sacked. It's not the same. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 16:39 - Jun 6 with 1699 views | Scotia |
| Corona Virus on 15:51 - Jun 6 by Flashberryjack |
If thousands are allowed to demonstrate in London, I see no reason why businesses shouldn't be allowed to reopen if they want. |
If nothing else it is a good experiment. Let's see if anyone who has made a Guinea pig of themselves by attending these gatherings contracts covid. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 16:53 - Jun 6 with 1686 views | Scotia |
| Corona Virus on 15:40 - Jun 6 by controversial_jack |
The CV ward in Morriston has had more patients in today, and a few suspected too. Far too early to relax |
I don't think it is too early, within reason and depending on location. Just 42 cases in Wales, 21 of those in Betsi Cadwalladr. Not only that, 3126 tests yesterday, the most so far.
I'd be a bit annoyed if I lived in Ceredigion, where it seems to have been eliminated, and can't get a haircut because of an outbreak in Wrexham. Which is the exact situation we are in at the moment. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 16:53 - Jun 6 with 1683 views | Dr_Winston |
| Corona Virus on 16:01 - Jun 6 by DJack |
Those that chose to exercise their right to protest whilst risking infection did/do so willingly. If businesses are allowed to open whilst there is still a major risk then staff have no choice other than being sacked. It's not the same. |
The Police and Ambulance crews who are forced to attend these protests aren't there voluntarily.
Plenty of businesses currently shuttered are family run with no outside staff. | |
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| Corona Virus on 17:10 - Jun 6 with 1671 views | DJack |
| Corona Virus on 16:53 - Jun 6 by Dr_Winston |
The Police and Ambulance crews who are forced to attend these protests aren't there voluntarily.
Plenty of businesses currently shuttered are family run with no outside staff. |
A whole load of whataboutery. | |
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| Corona Virus on 17:29 - Jun 6 with 1655 views | controversial_jack |
| Corona Virus on 16:53 - Jun 6 by Scotia |
I don't think it is too early, within reason and depending on location. Just 42 cases in Wales, 21 of those in Betsi Cadwalladr. Not only that, 3126 tests yesterday, the most so far.
I'd be a bit annoyed if I lived in Ceredigion, where it seems to have been eliminated, and can't get a haircut because of an outbreak in Wrexham. Which is the exact situation we are in at the moment. |
for those 42 cases, there could be multiple more who haven't been tested and don't require hospital treatment. The virus is still there and active | | | |
| Corona Virus on 17:36 - Jun 6 with 1639 views | chad |
| Corona Virus on 17:10 - Jun 6 by DJack |
A whole load of whataboutery. |
Whataboutery my fragrant arse
It is perfectly logically relevant fact, that your post omitted to address
And not the only one, if you think thousands of people deliberately congregating only has an impact on them. ‘What about’ the people who need to treat them, the people infected by them and the people killed because of that. whatever the colour of their skin. |  | | |
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