| Corona Virus 22:39 - Mar 7 with 506945 views | SgorioFruit |
Sorry for new thread,
But how bad do you lot reckon it’s going to get here in the UK?
I just been watching the news. Looking nasty in Italy. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 12:01 - May 30 with 2110 views | londonlisa2001 |
When our scientists said 7 days right at the start of this, everyone said they were wrong.
The problem is the scientists can’t agree on anything very much. |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 12:04 - May 30 with 2106 views | longlostjack |
Thankfully I read that from another source yesterday. The thought of subscribing to the Daily Torygraph – Ych y fi |  |
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| Corona Virus on 12:05 - May 30 with 2103 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 10:59 - May 30 by chad |
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That’s a useful summary. Haven’t seen that before, it goes to what I was saying yesterday, that I don’t think the differences are as much as people think, it’s mainly the tone of messaging where Johnson is being an absolute arse and pretending it’s all open (when it’s not) and Drakeford is pretending it’s all shut (when it’s not). | | | |
| Corona Virus on 12:18 - May 30 with 2092 views | lifelong |
| Corona Virus on 12:05 - May 30 by londonlisa2001 |
That’s a useful summary. Haven’t seen that before, it goes to what I was saying yesterday, that I don’t think the differences are as much as people think, it’s mainly the tone of messaging where Johnson is being an absolute arse and pretending it’s all open (when it’s not) and Drakeford is pretending it’s all shut (when it’s not). |
The 5 mile limit is quite a significant difference, it means that the likes of Pembrokeshire and Gower do not have many thousands of people descending on them from all over the country. |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 12:24 - May 30 with 2084 views | karnataka |
| Corona Virus on 12:18 - May 30 by lifelong |
The 5 mile limit is quite a significant difference, it means that the likes of Pembrokeshire and Gower do not have many thousands of people descending on them from all over the country. |
So does it mean that anyone on the S Wales stretch of the M4 between any 2 junctions which are more than 5 miles apart must be breaking the rules then? I wonder how diligently that will be policed. |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 12:29 - May 30 with 2075 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 12:18 - May 30 by lifelong |
The 5 mile limit is quite a significant difference, it means that the likes of Pembrokeshire and Gower do not have many thousands of people descending on them from all over the country. |
Which is better if you live in Pembrokeshire and worse if you live in a built up area of Swansea or RCT though right?
It’s better if you are affluent with a garden or nice open space close to home. Not so much if you live in a block of flats and have a couple of kids.
Great for those in the Vale, or leafy suburbs of Cardiff. Not so much if you live in Merthyr.
It’s not only the virus which will kill people. Allowing people in built up parts of London to go out to the countryside is introducing more risk in the countryside but is reducing risk in London.
It’s not as simple as is being described. [Post edited 30 May 2020 12:30]
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| Corona Virus on 12:48 - May 30 with 2050 views | dickythorpe |
Lisa you are incorrect Wales isn't reopening the same as England.
On June 1st car showrooms and outdoor markets will remain closed here and on June 15th no "non essential" shops are reopening.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52801727 [Post edited 30 May 2020 12:53]
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| Corona Virus on 13:31 - May 30 with 2015 views | DJack |
| Corona Virus on 11:46 - May 30 by A_Fans_Dad |
Djack, sorry, but that is the study being criticized in my link. [Post edited 30 May 2020 11:50]
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Oooof.
I can't keep up with it all. Ta. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 14:11 - May 30 with 1990 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 12:48 - May 30 by dickythorpe |
Lisa you are incorrect Wales isn't reopening the same as England.
On June 1st car showrooms and outdoor markets will remain closed here and on June 15th no "non essential" shops are reopening.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52801727 [Post edited 30 May 2020 12:53]
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Drakeford literally told shops yesterday to prepare to open in 3 weeks. That’s June 19th. And ours may not open on June 15th anyway. It’s an aim. They’ve said it will be reviewed constantly.
At the moment, we have the same shops open as you.
Yes, car showrooms can open here on Monday, but then our libraries are shut until July when yours are open now.
As I said, the comms is different but the reality is almost the same other than the travel.
Edited to add - as I keep saying, the reason the comms is different is because Johnson is a complete arse. Why on earth is anyone listening to him? The reality is not what he’s saying. Concentrate on that. I ignore every word that comes from him. [Post edited 30 May 2020 14:20]
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| Corona Virus on 15:48 - May 30 with 1951 views | Scotia |
For the first time since March there are no new confirmed Covid cases in Swansea today. It doesn't mean a huge amount obviously, but it is a welcome milestone. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 15:57 - May 30 with 1944 views | controversial_jack |
| Corona Virus on 22:36 - May 29 by Dr_Winston |
Is that necessarily a bad thing?
The whole point of lockdown as initially sold was to flatten the curve and avoid overwhelming the NHS. Given that most of the Nightingale facilities are emptier than Donald Trump's head then that's mission accomplished.
Until a vaccine is sorted we probably need a low level of virus transmission. |
Many countries have actually gone further than just protecting their health service and been successful too | | | |
| Corona Virus on 18:08 - May 30 with 1904 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Corona Virus on 22:36 - May 29 by Dr_Winston |
Is that necessarily a bad thing?
The whole point of lockdown as initially sold was to flatten the curve and avoid overwhelming the NHS. Given that most of the Nightingale facilities are emptier than Donald Trump's head then that's mission accomplished.
Until a vaccine is sorted we probably need a low level of virus transmission. |
Protected the NHS as a whole at the expense of non COVID-19 patients, old folks in care homes and quite a few NHS/care workers. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 19:05 - May 30 with 1878 views | longlostjack |
| Corona Virus on 18:08 - May 30 by A_Fans_Dad |
Protected the NHS as a whole at the expense of non COVID-19 patients, old folks in care homes and quite a few NHS/care workers. |
The care sector was not prioritised at all. Absolutely disgusting and a national scandal. | |
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| Corona Virus on 21:02 - May 30 with 1825 views | controversial_jack |
| Corona Virus on 19:05 - May 30 by longlostjack |
The care sector was not prioritised at all. Absolutely disgusting and a national scandal. |
I believe it's not unique here and care homes around the world have been vulnerable. How can residents in these home be isolated? | | | |
| Corona Virus on 21:23 - May 30 with 1805 views | longlostjack |
| Corona Virus on 21:02 - May 30 by controversial_jack |
I believe it's not unique here and care homes around the world have been vulnerable. How can residents in these home be isolated? |
“Many countries have actually gone further than just protecting their health service and been successful too”
You answered your own question. | |
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| Corona Virus on 21:37 - May 30 with 1792 views | Catullus |
| Corona Virus on 21:02 - May 30 by controversial_jack |
I believe it's not unique here and care homes around the world have been vulnerable. How can residents in these home be isolated? |
Seeing as they needed hands on care it was hard. Many carers actually went and lived in the homes they worked in, above and beyond by any measure, specially when they had little PPE.
We still need to beware a second wave, EU experts have warned it's likely and France is seeing a rise in confirmed cases.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/covid-19-infections-rise-dramatically-in-france/ | |
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| Corona Virus on 21:53 - May 30 with 1780 views | bennytheblue |
| Corona Virus on 12:18 - May 30 by lifelong |
The 5 mile limit is quite a significant difference, it means that the likes of Pembrokeshire and Gower do not have many thousands of people descending on them from all over the country. |
So, are people who live in Swansea able to get to the Gower beaches? Or are there police stopping people on the rds from the city? Or Langland? Can you get there from parts of swansea? |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 21:55 - May 30 with 1774 views | bennytheblue |
| Corona Virus on 14:11 - May 30 by londonlisa2001 |
Drakeford literally told shops yesterday to prepare to open in 3 weeks. That’s June 19th. And ours may not open on June 15th anyway. It’s an aim. They’ve said it will be reviewed constantly.
At the moment, we have the same shops open as you.
Yes, car showrooms can open here on Monday, but then our libraries are shut until July when yours are open now.
As I said, the comms is different but the reality is almost the same other than the travel.
Edited to add - as I keep saying, the reason the comms is different is because Johnson is a complete arse. Why on earth is anyone listening to him? The reality is not what he’s saying. Concentrate on that. I ignore every word that comes from him. [Post edited 30 May 2020 14:20]
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Did he really say that Lisa? 3 weeks for shops? | | | |
| Corona Virus on 22:10 - May 30 with 1763 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 21:55 - May 30 by bennytheblue |
Did he really say that Lisa? 3 weeks for shops? |
He did. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 22:16 - May 30 with 1755 views | bennytheblue |
Surely if shops can open then you can travel whatever distance to visit? I guess one can travel to Pembrokeshire or London for a break then maybe? | | | |
| Corona Virus on 22:17 - May 30 with 1752 views | Swanjaxs |
Interesting article comparing English and Welsh beaches today.
Take a look at the two pictures of Durdle Door Bay in Dorset.
Looks busy in the first picture.
Then have a look at the second picture after a medical incident.
Very cosy indeed 😷
How Wales' parks and beaches compared to those in England and Scotland
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/coronavirus-lockdown-wales-beach-p [Post edited 30 May 2020 22:18]
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| Corona Virus on 22:34 - May 30 with 1721 views | controversial_jack |
| Corona Virus on 21:23 - May 30 by longlostjack |
“Many countries have actually gone further than just protecting their health service and been successful too”
You answered your own question. |
I don't know how they achieved the protection of their elderly in care homes | | | |
| Corona Virus on 23:08 - May 30 with 1691 views | longlostjack |
| Corona Virus on 22:34 - May 30 by controversial_jack |
I don't know how they achieved the protection of their elderly in care homes |
Of course issues in other countries too. Just so systematic in UK. Social care vs NHS. I’m out controversial. | |
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| Corona Virus on 08:23 - May 31 with 1603 views | karnataka |
| Corona Virus on 22:34 - May 30 by controversial_jack |
I don't know how they achieved the protection of their elderly in care homes |
Neither do it but I think to actually want to is a good start and probably goes a long way. | | | |
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