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The Great Escape: other games thread. 20:50 - Dec 30 with 28329 views442Dale

When we avoided relegation in 17/18 after being so far adrift, I think there was a similar thread towards the end of the season which followed the scores of the other clubs around us.

In the spirit of superstition starting it now could help again. Theory being the earlier the better and safe by Easter.

Crawley losing 2-0 to Stevenage at the moment tonight.

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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 20:52 - Dec 30 with 10635 viewsTVOS1907

With one of their American owners in the dugout!

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 20:54 - Dec 30 with 10617 views442Dale

The Great Escape: other games thread. on 20:52 - Dec 30 by TVOS1907

With one of their American owners in the dugout!


It’s a shame they had that mini upturn in form as it really could have been them and one other as someone else said the other day.

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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 21:28 - Dec 30 with 10536 viewsEllDale

Stevenage play Gillingham at home on Monday as well.
Never wanted a Steve Evans team to win as much in my life.
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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 13:43 - Jan 1 with 10210 viewsEllDale

Hartlepool versus Harrogate takes the eye today.
Colchester are at home to fifth placed Swindon.
The other question perhaps is will any other club slide through to join the relegation contenders?
It has been known to happen before!
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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 14:07 - Jan 1 with 10147 viewsD_Alien

The Great Escape: other games thread. on 13:43 - Jan 1 by EllDale

Hartlepool versus Harrogate takes the eye today.
Colchester are at home to fifth placed Swindon.
The other question perhaps is will any other club slide through to join the relegation contenders?
It has been known to happen before!


Crawley a definite possible, with their internal issues too

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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 15:39 - Jan 1 with 10002 viewsJames1980

Monkey Hangers 1-0 down at home against Harrogate.
We will have 2 games in hand on them and only be 3 points behind if it stays the same come 5pm this evening.

'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 15:47 - Jan 1 with 9991 views442Dale

The Great Escape: other games thread. on 15:39 - Jan 1 by James1980

Monkey Hangers 1-0 down at home against Harrogate.
We will have 2 games in hand on them and only be 3 points behind if it stays the same come 5pm this evening.


Colchester winning though.

Harrogate have shown how putting some wins together can lead to a massive change in outlook. They were considered in real trouble before three wins in a row recently. As it stand me now, they’re ten points clear of the bottom two.

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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 16:12 - Jan 1 with 9895 viewsJames1980

The Great Escape: other games thread. on 15:47 - Jan 1 by 442Dale

Colchester winning though.

Harrogate have shown how putting some wins together can lead to a massive change in outlook. They were considered in real trouble before three wins in a row recently. As it stand me now, they’re ten points clear of the bottom two.


And Hartlepool are ahead but we have those games in hand and an ever so slightly better goal difference.

'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 16:16 - Jan 1 with 9869 views442Dale

The Great Escape: other games thread. on 16:12 - Jan 1 by James1980

And Hartlepool are ahead but we have those games in hand and an ever so slightly better goal difference.


2-2

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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 17:08 - Jan 1 with 9724 viewsJames1980

The Great Escape: other games thread. on 16:16 - Jan 1 by 442Dale

2-2


Finished 3 - 3

'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 17:19 - Jan 1 with 9693 viewsD_Alien

The Great Escape: other games thread. on 17:08 - Jan 1 by James1980

Finished 3 - 3


And in order to match them over our 2 games in hand, we need at least a draw tomorrow

Just goes to show what a dire reverse the defeat to them on Boxing Day was

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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 18:28 - Jan 1 with 9525 viewsNorthernDale

Anything less then a draw then we a buggered, the other teams are picking up wins, I would a win, but with that team, I cannot see us getting anything.

Jim, needs to make changes tomorrow and stop giving the players that have failed time after time. Tomorrow I would take a chance and drop Nelson, John, Ball and Odoh (I suspect that this won't happen). The team, I would select and it may not win, but it may put up more of a fight.
O'Donnell

Seriki McNulty Graham Ebanks-Landell Keohane

Kelly Diagouraga Lloyd

Quigley Henderson
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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 18:56 - Jan 1 with 9459 viewsJames1980

Tomorrow a 24 game season starts 12 home games 12 away game we will survive if we achieve over 35 points. It is a tall ask but apparently these are professional footballer. Bloomin' well go out and show why you earn a living playing this game. Why when a scout saw you playing the game as a youngster thought yes this lad has potential. Play with some effing determination and leave everything on the picture. Do these players want on their record relegating a team that through thick and thin despite despite not having wealthy backers not being a darling of the media and being a go to team for TV coverage. Have stood up been counted and survived.

'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 20:52 - Jan 1 with 9310 views_Stefan_Kuntz

BlackDogBlue asked about this on Carlisle United's FootyMad board.
Based on the last 10 League Two seasons the average number of points needed to finish 1 point above 23rd is 44.2. In season 2021/22 Biffos finished on 38 points, hence 39 is the requirement if you want to base your hopes on last season's escape total.

The respective escape totals (1 point more than 23rd) starting 10 years ago to last season are 52, 51, 42, 35, 47, 47, 42, 41, 46 & 39.
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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 09:52 - Jan 2 with 8925 viewsfrenzied

The Great Escape: other games thread. on 18:56 - Jan 1 by James1980

Tomorrow a 24 game season starts 12 home games 12 away game we will survive if we achieve over 35 points. It is a tall ask but apparently these are professional footballer. Bloomin' well go out and show why you earn a living playing this game. Why when a scout saw you playing the game as a youngster thought yes this lad has potential. Play with some effing determination and leave everything on the picture. Do these players want on their record relegating a team that through thick and thin despite despite not having wealthy backers not being a darling of the media and being a go to team for TV coverage. Have stood up been counted and survived.


I take your point James..

I don't feel its lack of effort on the pitch...sadly some of these players simply don't have the ability to perform consistently at this level.

I go into games now expecting us to lose.

Jim B has a horrendous task on his hands.

How many of these players have put in an above average performance over 5 games on at least 3 occasions?

No i cant think of one either...


The writing is firmly on the wall ..lets hope Jan can give us some hope otherwise i think we will be dead and buried by mid march.

I live in hope rather than expectation
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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 11:46 - Jan 2 with 8770 viewsHopwoodblue

The Great Escape: other games thread. on 09:52 - Jan 2 by frenzied

I take your point James..

I don't feel its lack of effort on the pitch...sadly some of these players simply don't have the ability to perform consistently at this level.

I go into games now expecting us to lose.

Jim B has a horrendous task on his hands.

How many of these players have put in an above average performance over 5 games on at least 3 occasions?

No i cant think of one either...


The writing is firmly on the wall ..lets hope Jan can give us some hope otherwise i think we will be dead and buried by mid march.

I live in hope rather than expectation


Will be interesting to see the team selection and subs today, that should tell us who is no longer at the club. Just going off what JB said in his post match interview on Thurs.
Let’s hope we have a couple of players in before weekend.

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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 13:08 - Jan 2 with 8640 viewsDaleFan7

Barrow are 4th in the home table having won 8 and lost 4 in 12. Can we hope to give them their first home draw of the season or would it be cheeky to ask for an away win?
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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 15:53 - Jan 2 with 8481 viewsEllDale

Stevenage 1 Gillingham 0
Newport 0 Crawley 1

Both halftime scores.
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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 16:57 - Jan 2 with 8364 views442Dale

Crawley throw away a two goal lead in the last ten minutes.

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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 17:07 - Jan 2 with 8305 viewsD_Alien

The Great Escape: other games thread. on 16:57 - Jan 2 by 442Dale

Crawley throw away a two goal lead in the last ten minutes.


Might serve to give Newport some impetus for Saturday...

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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 17:47 - Jan 2 with 8167 views442Dale

The Great Escape: other games thread. on 17:07 - Jan 2 by D_Alien

Might serve to give Newport some impetus for Saturday...


On the flip side, while we’d rather have them beaten Crawley, beating Newport on Saturday would see us make up more ground on them over the week with them “only” drawing today.

Should have called this “The Straw Clutching Thread of Doom”.

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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 17:51 - Jan 2 with 8149 viewsD_Alien

The Great Escape: other games thread. on 17:47 - Jan 2 by 442Dale

On the flip side, while we’d rather have them beaten Crawley, beating Newport on Saturday would see us make up more ground on them over the week with them “only” drawing today.

Should have called this “The Straw Clutching Thread of Doom”.


It'd make a change from our usual doom-clutching thread of straw

I agree, btw

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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 19:49 - Jan 2 with 8019 views49thseason

23 deliveries to go, 34 runs needed to get to 50, we are going to need a few boundaries.....
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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 19:53 - Jan 2 with 7998 views442Dale

The Great Escape: other games thread. on 19:49 - Jan 2 by 49thseason

23 deliveries to go, 34 runs needed to get to 50, we are going to need a few boundaries.....


Five teams still running at less than a point a game. Seven heading for less than 48 points on current form.

As we stand, with recent history taken into account, would take that 48 figure as par. Worth reviewing again at the end of the month.

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The Great Escape: other games thread. on 20:07 - Jan 2 with 7943 viewsRAFCBLUE

The Great Escape: other games thread. on 19:49 - Jan 2 by 49thseason

23 deliveries to go, 34 runs needed to get to 50, we are going to need a few boundaries.....


And 12 of those 23 deliveries are home games with 36 points on offer.

Home form is the key to anything good and for all of us to try to help that in whatever little way we can.

Still to visit Spotland (league postion as of tonight):
1. Newport County (18th)
2. Colchester United (21st)
3. Carlisle United (4th)
4. Northampton Town (3rd)
5. Gillingham (24th)
6. Stockport County (13th)
7. Stevenage (2nd)
8. Swindon Town (6th)
9. Walsall (9th)
10. Bradford (5th)
11. Tranmere (15th)
12. Sutton (12th)

All to play for for all teams at the top and bottom of the league, save for Leyton Orient who look so far ahead they won't be caught.

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