Ainsworth and style of play 08:13 - May 24 with 6005 views | sdm1508 | Now I'm not saying Ainsworth is the right man or the wrong man for the job. I keep seeing comments about his style of play and isn't this more a case of what he has at his disposal? I'm sure I read somewhere, may have even been on this forum. When Di Canio was in charge and Ainsworth was his assistant, that a lot of our style of play was down to Ainsworth due to the language barrier. Di Canio didn't speak English so Ainsworth took the majority of the training sessions. This may have been something someone said on here or a player said something in an interview after they left the club. Not sure, just something that sticks in my mind | | | | |
Ainsworth and style of play on 08:26 - May 24 with 4618 views | dmm | Given Ainsworth has been at Wycombe for 10 years, he's had plenty of time to change his style of football, and players, if he had wanted to do so. That he hasn't done so suggests Ainsworth is committed to his style of play. | | | |
Ainsworth and style of play on 08:29 - May 24 with 4607 views | HAYESBOY | I was saying the same thing the other day. Ainsworth may just be getting the best out of what he has in front of him. If you have Vokes as your striker, do you play pass and move football or do you hit him early and also try and get crosses into him? His team certainly give their all on the pitch. Ainsworth did have Eze and brought him on. Still would like Eustace to get the job but can see this is unlikely. | |
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Ainsworth and style of play on 08:48 - May 24 with 4550 views | daveB | His style of play is pretty similar to what Holloway did in his first spell and how Warnock plays. Defenders defend, get balls in the box and runners from midfield. If you are looking to develop players to sell onto premier league clubs then that style is not the one you wanna go with, if its all about results then it's not a terrible idea. | | | |
Ainsworth and style of play on 08:48 - May 24 with 4550 views | HAYESBOY |
Ainsworth and style of play on 08:26 - May 24 by dmm | Given Ainsworth has been at Wycombe for 10 years, he's had plenty of time to change his style of football, and players, if he had wanted to do so. That he hasn't done so suggests Ainsworth is committed to his style of play. |
Its a good point. Guessing their scouting and budgets are really low though so may not be able to get the players to play a nice brand of football. You could say though Manning has achieved this at MK Dons. | |
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Ainsworth and style of play on 08:50 - May 24 with 4529 views | toboboly |
Ainsworth and style of play on 08:48 - May 24 by daveB | His style of play is pretty similar to what Holloway did in his first spell and how Warnock plays. Defenders defend, get balls in the box and runners from midfield. If you are looking to develop players to sell onto premier league clubs then that style is not the one you wanna go with, if its all about results then it's not a terrible idea. |
This is the thing, that actually sounds quite exciting compared to the Swansalona tip-tap rubbish we have seen since February. | |
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Ainsworth and style of play on 08:57 - May 24 with 4502 views | Esox_Lucius | Neil Banfield? He has a good record of developing youth team players. | |
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Ainsworth and style of play on 09:53 - May 24 with 4389 views | paulparker | Sorry I don’t get all this style of play nonsense Surely the point is to get a manager who is going to win games and make us hard to beat Pretty fed up of us getting rolled over meekly the last 3 months if that means being physical then so be it , I’d rather that than watching the likes of Sanderson think he is Virgil van dyke This whole myth about Ainsworth booting it long is bollox imo | |
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Ainsworth and style of play on 09:58 - May 24 with 4365 views | The_Beast1976 |
Ainsworth and style of play on 08:50 - May 24 by toboboly | This is the thing, that actually sounds quite exciting compared to the Swansalona tip-tap rubbish we have seen since February. |
I agree. Win the ball at the back, get the ball out wide early to wingers or attacking full-backs, attack down the flanks with pace, whip crosses into the box. Just like it's 1992. It works, and is exciting to watch, if done right. Come on You R's [Post edited 24 May 2022 10:00]
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Ainsworth and style of play on 10:27 - May 24 with 4238 views | PunteR | Lead guitarist and frontman playing rock music isn't it? | |
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Ainsworth and style of play on 10:34 - May 24 with 4225 views | Rangersw12 |
Ainsworth and style of play on 09:53 - May 24 by paulparker | Sorry I don’t get all this style of play nonsense Surely the point is to get a manager who is going to win games and make us hard to beat Pretty fed up of us getting rolled over meekly the last 3 months if that means being physical then so be it , I’d rather that than watching the likes of Sanderson think he is Virgil van dyke This whole myth about Ainsworth booting it long is bollox imo |
You will be one of the first whinging about it on here if results don't go well though It's unlikely we will go up next season or even challenge for the play offs so if that's the case I would rather we try and play football rather than hoof it | | | |
Ainsworth and style of play on 10:36 - May 24 with 4221 views | Antti_Heinola |
Ainsworth and style of play on 08:26 - May 24 by dmm | Given Ainsworth has been at Wycombe for 10 years, he's had plenty of time to change his style of football, and players, if he had wanted to do so. That he hasn't done so suggests Ainsworth is committed to his style of play. |
Agree, I've seen a lot of that sort of stuff, but I'm struggling to think of any manager that has success at one club, and then goes to another and plays a totally different style. Ollie's all out attack at Blackpool, maybe. Warnock with us to some extent as he adapted to Adel, but broadly his style was in place. I just can't see it. I think it'll be more fun to watch than Wycombe are and we played decent football under him as caretaker, but there's no doubt it would be a big departure from the last three years. | |
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Ainsworth and style of play on 10:40 - May 24 with 4199 views | francisbowles |
Ainsworth and style of play on 10:36 - May 24 by Antti_Heinola | Agree, I've seen a lot of that sort of stuff, but I'm struggling to think of any manager that has success at one club, and then goes to another and plays a totally different style. Ollie's all out attack at Blackpool, maybe. Warnock with us to some extent as he adapted to Adel, but broadly his style was in place. I just can't see it. I think it'll be more fun to watch than Wycombe are and we played decent football under him as caretaker, but there's no doubt it would be a big departure from the last three years. |
Steve Cooper at Forest compared to Steve Cooper at Swansea? | | | |
Ainsworth and style of play on 10:49 - May 24 with 4156 views | paulparker |
Ainsworth and style of play on 10:34 - May 24 by Rangersw12 | You will be one of the first whinging about it on here if results don't go well though It's unlikely we will go up next season or even challenge for the play offs so if that's the case I would rather we try and play football rather than hoof it |
Ainsworth doesn’t play hoofball perhaps you need to do your homework | |
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Ainsworth and style of play on 11:01 - May 24 with 4125 views | Rangersw12 |
Ainsworth and style of play on 10:49 - May 24 by paulparker | Ainsworth doesn’t play hoofball perhaps you need to do your homework |
Look at Wycombe's stats for the season and it suggests otherwise. Anyway let's hope if he is appointed that a squad built to play out from the back and possession based with two no 10's can adapt to kick and rush as if not staying up will be seen as a success! [Post edited 24 May 2022 11:14]
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Ainsworth and style of play on 11:50 - May 24 with 3971 views | paulparker |
Ainsworth and style of play on 11:01 - May 24 by Rangersw12 | Look at Wycombe's stats for the season and it suggests otherwise. Anyway let's hope if he is appointed that a squad built to play out from the back and possession based with two no 10's can adapt to kick and rush as if not staying up will be seen as a success! [Post edited 24 May 2022 11:14]
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When Ainsworth had Eze he didn’t play hoofball nor did he play hoofball when he was caretaker manager for two spells , from my recollection we were defensively sound in his short period here if you were there at Man Utd in the cup then it took a dodgy penalty to beat us , they couldn’t break us down at all and we broke with pace If you give him better players then I’m pretty sure he would change things slightly especially with two number tens , as for this playing out from the back at every goal kick its not for me , we don’t have the full backs for it most of the time we got in trouble or we slowed the game down to the point of the opposition working us out If Ainsworth didn’t dress like Jarvis cocker then he would be a shoe in here | |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
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Ainsworth and style of play on 12:01 - May 24 with 3931 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Ainsworth and style of play on 11:50 - May 24 by paulparker | When Ainsworth had Eze he didn’t play hoofball nor did he play hoofball when he was caretaker manager for two spells , from my recollection we were defensively sound in his short period here if you were there at Man Utd in the cup then it took a dodgy penalty to beat us , they couldn’t break us down at all and we broke with pace If you give him better players then I’m pretty sure he would change things slightly especially with two number tens , as for this playing out from the back at every goal kick its not for me , we don’t have the full backs for it most of the time we got in trouble or we slowed the game down to the point of the opposition working us out If Ainsworth didn’t dress like Jarvis cocker then he would be a shoe in here |
That perception of Ainsworth is quite common (people). | | | |
Ainsworth and style of play on 12:18 - May 24 with 3881 views | Rangersw12 |
Ainsworth and style of play on 11:50 - May 24 by paulparker | When Ainsworth had Eze he didn’t play hoofball nor did he play hoofball when he was caretaker manager for two spells , from my recollection we were defensively sound in his short period here if you were there at Man Utd in the cup then it took a dodgy penalty to beat us , they couldn’t break us down at all and we broke with pace If you give him better players then I’m pretty sure he would change things slightly especially with two number tens , as for this playing out from the back at every goal kick its not for me , we don’t have the full backs for it most of the time we got in trouble or we slowed the game down to the point of the opposition working us out If Ainsworth didn’t dress like Jarvis cocker then he would be a shoe in here |
Nothing to do with how he's dressed. Yeah I was at the United game iirr Cerny played a blinder otherwise it could have been a cricket score but I wouldn't judge him on those caretaker spells anyway as so long ago If we had players to suit his style then I would be all for it but he's been at Wycombe 10 years now and I haven't seen any evidence that he can adapt his style of play and could argue he doesn't have a plan B just hit the big men upfront. It would be a massive risk to go for him even more than the other poor candidates available. | | | |
Ainsworth and style of play on 12:25 - May 24 with 3858 views | ahoz |
Ainsworth and style of play on 09:58 - May 24 by The_Beast1976 | I agree. Win the ball at the back, get the ball out wide early to wingers or attacking full-backs, attack down the flanks with pace, whip crosses into the box. Just like it's 1992. It works, and is exciting to watch, if done right. Come on You R's [Post edited 24 May 2022 10:00]
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Yes, that's what we want, not that play the ball 20 times and the ball doesn't go past the halfway line total rubbish! | | | |
Ainsworth and style of play on 12:32 - May 24 with 3814 views | paulparker |
Ainsworth and style of play on 12:18 - May 24 by Rangersw12 | Nothing to do with how he's dressed. Yeah I was at the United game iirr Cerny played a blinder otherwise it could have been a cricket score but I wouldn't judge him on those caretaker spells anyway as so long ago If we had players to suit his style then I would be all for it but he's been at Wycombe 10 years now and I haven't seen any evidence that he can adapt his style of play and could argue he doesn't have a plan B just hit the big men upfront. It would be a massive risk to go for him even more than the other poor candidates available. |
You play to your strengths Wycombe have one of the lowest budgets in the league , if decided to play out from the back with the players who can’t do it then they would be bottom half As for not changing it in 10 years his team were more than a match for us the season before last and actually were the better team at HQ He then lost his best players that summer | |
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Ainsworth and style of play on 13:15 - May 24 with 3716 views | Antti_Heinola |
Ainsworth and style of play on 10:40 - May 24 by francisbowles | Steve Cooper at Forest compared to Steve Cooper at Swansea? |
I mean - a bit. It's still the basic same plan isn't it? They move it quicker maybe, but it's not a wholesale change of philosophy is it? I don't think Gaz plays hoofball and I do think he's a good manager, but while some might say he dosn't get the job because of his dress sense, I'd argue if he wasn't a club legend no one would even be mentioning him. I love him so much I'd be excited if he was appointed because I'd love to see him succeed, but I think there are probably more reasons not to appoint him than to appoint him. I also think if he is appointed, Les should resign, because there's no way he would pick Gaz, because it's, whatever anyone says, taking the club in a different direction again. Manning makes sense to me as possible progress from Warbs. Gaz represents a new direction, when, for all our hand-wringing I think we need tinkering, not blowing the thing up just because of a few bad games after wahat felt like 2 and a half years of progress. | |
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Ainsworth and style of play on 13:22 - May 24 with 3679 views | Rangersw12 | Another reason why I wouldn't want him appointed is him to lose his status amongst the fans Some of the stuff said about Holloway in his 2nd spell was disgraceful and Ainsworth doesn't deserve that | | | |
Ainsworth and style of play on 13:25 - May 24 with 3671 views | DannytheR |
Ainsworth and style of play on 13:15 - May 24 by Antti_Heinola | I mean - a bit. It's still the basic same plan isn't it? They move it quicker maybe, but it's not a wholesale change of philosophy is it? I don't think Gaz plays hoofball and I do think he's a good manager, but while some might say he dosn't get the job because of his dress sense, I'd argue if he wasn't a club legend no one would even be mentioning him. I love him so much I'd be excited if he was appointed because I'd love to see him succeed, but I think there are probably more reasons not to appoint him than to appoint him. I also think if he is appointed, Les should resign, because there's no way he would pick Gaz, because it's, whatever anyone says, taking the club in a different direction again. Manning makes sense to me as possible progress from Warbs. Gaz represents a new direction, when, for all our hand-wringing I think we need tinkering, not blowing the thing up just because of a few bad games after wahat felt like 2 and a half years of progress. |
But Ainsworth would buy the board at least a year in goodwill from a lot of fans, even if we ended up going down at the end of it. Appoint anyone else from among the realistic contenders and a failure to start racking up wins straight away could well see the atmosphere turn pretty ugly before the clocks have even gone back. Might just be what swings it. If nothing else, Tony, Reuben and the enigmatic American dude with his minority shareholding have been very skilled at avoiding real criticism from the fans. I suppose that's what Les is for is, isn't it? | | | |
Ainsworth and style of play on 15:10 - May 24 with 3494 views | R_from_afar | My best mate is a Wycombe season ticket holder and I have been to a lot of Wycombe games with him in the last few years. I would say that Ainsworth is very good at working with what he has or what he can scrape together with his meagre budget. His teams move the ball forward quickly, especially down the flanks, and don't take risks by a lot of passing near their own goal, but while there is some long ball stuff *at times,* it isn't endless hoofball up to two big units. His players do also move the ball rapidly on the deck and not all of them are large veterans on the career downslope. As I said before, for a time, he was using the little man / big man approach up front, with Akinfenwa and the pacey, relatively short youngster Scott Kashket. Not that they were home-grown, but Ainsworth has also managed to improve players. O'Nien and Onyedinma both played for Gareth, then progressed. I wouldn't be upset if Ainsworth was our new manager but I almost feel as if the odds are so stacked against the new incumbent that I wouldn't want Ainsworth to be the next person in the hot seat. Let's torch someone else this time, not him. And if Manning is seriously being considered, I still think Evatt has to be, he's surely a stronger candidate. Perhaps he is, who knows. | |
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Ainsworth and style of play on 17:24 - May 24 with 3379 views | numptydumpty | I have family that live in Wokingham and Mr Ainsworth is a regular coffee shop king often with his rather good looking latina lady friend. His crocodile boots and leathers, he has a lot of energy to give to his home life so perhaps solving our midfield conundrum, his energies would be elsewhere !!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 | |
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Ainsworth and style of play on 17:43 - May 24 with 3349 views | francisbowles |
Ainsworth and style of play on 13:15 - May 24 by Antti_Heinola | I mean - a bit. It's still the basic same plan isn't it? They move it quicker maybe, but it's not a wholesale change of philosophy is it? I don't think Gaz plays hoofball and I do think he's a good manager, but while some might say he dosn't get the job because of his dress sense, I'd argue if he wasn't a club legend no one would even be mentioning him. I love him so much I'd be excited if he was appointed because I'd love to see him succeed, but I think there are probably more reasons not to appoint him than to appoint him. I also think if he is appointed, Les should resign, because there's no way he would pick Gaz, because it's, whatever anyone says, taking the club in a different direction again. Manning makes sense to me as possible progress from Warbs. Gaz represents a new direction, when, for all our hand-wringing I think we need tinkering, not blowing the thing up just because of a few bad games after wahat felt like 2 and a half years of progress. |
Entertaining as opposed to dreary. However, I agree with your comments. | | | |
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