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I would just like to thank Adam Armstrong for his goal on a memorable day at Wembley. Alongside Shane Longs goal against Liverpool it has to go down as one of the most memorable goals scored for us. Wishing you all the best,Alan ,you always gave 100% for Saints.
I would like to second that, it is a little disappointing how easily some are willing to dismiss Adam as a Championship level player whilst acclaiming the likes of Sulemana & Onuauchu as saviours after just a couple of reasonable games following two abysmal years in which for most of it they either weren't at the club or didn't give a flying F***.
Given our lack of proven firepower at either Premier or Championship level now, letting Armstrong move is not good from either the depth of our attacking options or the fact that he was a player who maybe wasn't a great goalscorer at Premier League level, but worked hard and gave 100%.
Cameron Archer can't be feeling much less unwanted than Armstrong either
Satisfying The Bloodlust Of The Masses In Peacetime
I would like to second that, it is a little disappointing how easily some are willing to dismiss Adam as a Championship level player whilst acclaiming the likes of Sulemana & Onuauchu as saviours after just a couple of reasonable games following two abysmal years in which for most of it they either weren't at the club or didn't give a flying F***.
Given our lack of proven firepower at either Premier or Championship level now, letting Armstrong move is not good from either the depth of our attacking options or the fact that he was a player who maybe wasn't a great goalscorer at Premier League level, but worked hard and gave 100%.
Cameron Archer can't be feeling much less unwanted than Armstrong either
Onuachu was never really given a chance unless you count 2 or 3 starts under Selles. He now looks our best if limited option up front.
Armstrong just does not cut it at this level. He's had over 80 games and 6 goals is seriously not good enough .
Sulemana was never going to work under Russell Martin' possession based style.
No one is saying they are our saviours , just possibly better players with attributes that work in the Premier league.
Good luck to Armstrong. Hopefully he'll scores goals at a level he's proven at and come back to us next season and carry on from where he left off.
Onuachu was never really given a chance unless you count 2 or 3 starts under Selles. He now looks our best if limited option up front.
Armstrong just does not cut it at this level. He's had over 80 games and 6 goals is seriously not good enough .
Sulemana was never going to work under Russell Martin' possession based style.
No one is saying they are our saviours , just possibly better players with attributes that work in the Premier league.
Good luck to Armstrong. Hopefully he'll scores goals at a level he's proven at and come back to us next season and carry on from where he left off.
I see your points, especially the possssion based game, but Armstrong suffered under that too, but the fact still remains that although they may well be better players , but you can count the good games that they have had between them on one hand.
Sulemana has started 23 League games plus 32 as sub and has scored just twice, both in the same game
Onuachu 10 starts plus 15 as sub and 2 goals as well.
So between them they have played 80 games (not all at this level) and got just 4 goals.
At Ipswich Onuachu was anonymous until he scored, in truth as a goalscorer I don't think he is any better than Armstrong at any level.
Only at this club can we sack off a loyal player who scored a Wembley winner and suddenly acclaim players who firstly haven't wanted to be at the club for the best part of the last two years and secondly have consistently failed to produce.
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Armstrong best position is Right Winger. Dibling has that spot.
As I said earlier let’s see what Sulemana does now he didn’t get a move last month. Attitude.
Armstrong leaving is a mistake. Just another made by the powers that be.
Sad times. 😞
Armstrong can play on the left as well, if Dibling plays on the right he is better, but Juric seems to want to play him as a striker.
I agree about Sulemana, lets see what he can do, my point is that although he has done a little bit in the past few weeks as has Onuachu, both have also been just as bad as they were in the past in others, there hasn't been consistency
Yes we should have kept Armstrong, the only reason I can see for him leaving is 1 to save money and 2 to give him shooting practice and up his confidence for next season.
Our problem is that there is no director of football, we have had no one running the football side of things with any experience for the last 10 months, Ankersen get a lot of stick, but Saints have never been his remit he has concentrated on Goztepe and he is the only one of the owners who has experience in football
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Lack of Premier League standard players. Keeping a manager who is clueless at this level and replacing him with someone with no PL experience who can, if he wants, walk away at the end of the season.
Sport Republic - doing it on the cheap.
We thought that we had the answers,
It was the questions we had wrong.
I see your points, especially the possssion based game, but Armstrong suffered under that too, but the fact still remains that although they may well be better players , but you can count the good games that they have had between them on one hand.
Sulemana has started 23 League games plus 32 as sub and has scored just twice, both in the same game
Onuachu 10 starts plus 15 as sub and 2 goals as well.
So between them they have played 80 games (not all at this level) and got just 4 goals.
At Ipswich Onuachu was anonymous until he scored, in truth as a goalscorer I don't think he is any better than Armstrong at any level.
Only at this club can we sack off a loyal player who scored a Wembley winner and suddenly acclaim players who firstly haven't wanted to be at the club for the best part of the last two years and secondly have consistently failed to produce.
Discuss
Onuachuis only now is starting to get the service he needs to score goals. When Selles played him I remember thinking what was is the point if if no one is crossing into the box. It was the same with RM, no crosses, no cut-backs and no diagonal high balls, which just left Paul stranded. With RM we rarely got out of our own third of the pitch anyway. Under Juric suddenly there are crosses, threaded forward passes, high balls etc all of which will give him a greater chance of scoring goals. He isn't the prolific PL striker we need, but we are only now starting to play to his strengths.
Onuachuis only now is starting to get the service he needs to score goals. When Selles played him I remember thinking what was is the point if if no one is crossing into the box. It was the same with RM, no crosses, no cut-backs and no diagonal high balls, which just left Paul stranded. With RM we rarely got out of our own third of the pitch anyway. Under Juric suddenly there are crosses, threaded forward passes, high balls etc all of which will give him a greater chance of scoring goals. He isn't the prolific PL striker we need, but we are only now starting to play to his strengths.
Meanwhile Winchester lad, Liam Delap, signed for £20m has 9 Premier League goals in 23 games. Pay up, look big.
We thought that we had the answers,
It was the questions we had wrong.
For me Armstrong has literally done absolutely nothing in the Prem. I can't recall one game where he was outstanding , dangerous or any real threat .
Sulemana showed against UTD that he can terrify a defence and this will lead to goals and goal chances.
Onuachu can score goals with both his head and feet, he is is decent at holding up and receiving the ball centrally under pressure. His height cause defences to panic and it opens up opportunities for others as well as him to score.
Both have their limitations and I suspect neither are the long term answer.
Armstrong just runs about a lot but ultimately is ineffective .He lacks the strength and technique required and just gets crowded out when he attempts a shot.
Why do we need to keep him and waste money on wages when it just doesn't work for him , it doesn't make sense and personally I couldn't give a monkeys about what he did at Wembley now....great at the time..thank you Adam.
Premier league is ruthless . In the past we binned off Billy Sharp ho is similar to Armstrong because we were a better club then and understood he wasn't good enough and acted accordingly
I see your points, especially the possssion based game, but Armstrong suffered under that too, but the fact still remains that although they may well be better players , but you can count the good games that they have had between them on one hand.
Sulemana has started 23 League games plus 32 as sub and has scored just twice, both in the same game
Onuachu 10 starts plus 15 as sub and 2 goals as well.
So between them they have played 80 games (not all at this level) and got just 4 goals.
At Ipswich Onuachu was anonymous until he scored, in truth as a goalscorer I don't think he is any better than Armstrong at any level.
Only at this club can we sack off a loyal player who scored a Wembley winner and suddenly acclaim players who firstly haven't wanted to be at the club for the best part of the last two years and secondly have consistently failed to produce.
Discuss
Your comment about Tall Paul being anonymous until he scored. That's typical of most strikers, Haaland can be totally anonymous but scores when given the opportunity. I would bet on Tall Paul given the same number of games as AA has had (note in Premier lge) TP will score at least twice as many goals as AA has contributed. TP also gives the side a different dimension, an outlet to hit long balls to, he can hold a ball up & is deceptively good with his feet. AA would not have scored the 2 goals that TP has recently scored. Yes, we should have kept AA in this transfer window but only because we are now desperately short of strikers. A couple of injuries & we're scuppered.
I would like to second that, it is a little disappointing how easily some are willing to dismiss Adam as a Championship level player whilst acclaiming the likes of Sulemana & Onuauchu as saviours after just a couple of reasonable games following two abysmal years in which for most of it they either weren't at the club or didn't give a flying F***.
Given our lack of proven firepower at either Premier or Championship level now, letting Armstrong move is not good from either the depth of our attacking options or the fact that he was a player who maybe wasn't a great goalscorer at Premier League level, but worked hard and gave 100%.
Cameron Archer can't be feeling much less unwanted than Armstrong either
I don't think anybody sees Sulemana or Onuachu as saviours.
I am a great admirer of Adam Armstrong, however it seems clear to me that he is a top Championship striker, but unfortunately just not cut out for the top flight.
It's not just stats from this season that would showcase this.
I would like to second that, it is a little disappointing how easily some are willing to dismiss Adam as a Championship level player whilst acclaiming the likes of Sulemana & Onuauchu as saviours after just a couple of reasonable games following two abysmal years in which for most of it they either weren't at the club or didn't give a flying F***.
Given our lack of proven firepower at either Premier or Championship level now, letting Armstrong move is not good from either the depth of our attacking options or the fact that he was a player who maybe wasn't a great goalscorer at Premier League level, but worked hard and gave 100%.
Cameron Archer can't be feeling much less unwanted than Armstrong either
I think Sulemana has the potential to be a good premier league player whereas Armstrong will never be a premier league player that is the difference . Let’s see what Juric can get out of him so far it’s looking good. Some players just work better with different managers . Sulemana and Onachu were never going to adapt to RM style of play. Sulemana likes to take people on and wasn’t encouraged to do that before. Onachu likes crosses coming not playing tippy tappy Shyte.
I like Armstrong and appreciate what he’s done for us but he’s no prem player. MOTD were raving about Sulemana at Ipswich, sometimes you can get a less biased view from what neutrals have to say.
I don't think anybody sees Sulemana or Onuachu as saviours.
I am a great admirer of Adam Armstrong, however it seems clear to me that he is a top Championship striker, but unfortunately just not cut out for the top flight.
It's not just stats from this season that would showcase this.
'I am a great admirer of Adam Armstrong, however it seems clear to me that he is a top Championship striker'
What division do you think we will be playing in next season,Pat?
I would like to second that, it is a little disappointing how easily some are willing to dismiss Adam as a Championship level player whilst acclaiming the likes of Sulemana & Onuauchu as saviours after just a couple of reasonable games following two abysmal years in which for most of it they either weren't at the club or didn't give a flying F***.
Given our lack of proven firepower at either Premier or Championship level now, letting Armstrong move is not good from either the depth of our attacking options or the fact that he was a player who maybe wasn't a great goalscorer at Premier League level, but worked hard and gave 100%.
Cameron Archer can't be feeling much less unwanted than Armstrong either
I don't think its about 'acclaiming the likes of Sulemana & Onuauchu as saviours after just a couple of reasonable games' Its relief that two expensive players are now showing potential. 'two abysmal years' wasn't down to them more down to they way they were coached and managed. Sulemana has great pace and skill. Onuauchu is not a forward you get the best of by asking him to run around from one end of the the pitch to the other,hes best in the box making a nuisance of himself and making space for others.He is the only player we have of his sort up front. Make him a idol,dont moan if he misses a header or makes a poor pass because this guy will score goals given time.I have read that some have said he looks exhausted,well you would if you were his size playing the premiership but who popped up on the 87 min at Ipswich to win us the game? Onuauchu 10 starts(how many did he stay on for 90min?)15 as sub well I hazard a guess most of those when we were losing and for a few minutes in the second half. Give the guy a chance,its not as if we have much choice. Make him a idol,cheer him because teams he is playing against find him a real problem.
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