| Heading The Ball 09:18 - Jan 16 with 19736 views | mingthemerciless |
It's just been on the news that school children in Scotland under the age of 12 will be banned from heading the ball in training but not in actual games. Is this the start of heading the ball becoming outlawed ? What would the game look like without heading ? [Post edited 16 Jan 2020 14:46]
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| Heading The Ball on 21:07 - Jan 19 with 1886 views | D_Alien |
No | |
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| Heading The Ball on 21:19 - Jan 19 with 1853 views | kiwidale |
There are two questions is your answer no and no? | |
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| Heading The Ball on 21:45 - Jan 19 with 1839 views | D_Alien |
No | |
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| Heading The Ball on 22:22 - Jan 19 with 1804 views | pioneer |
Maybe we should ask him one at a time . . .some people struggle with even the simplest of questions. | | | |
| Heading The Ball on 22:27 - Jan 19 with 1802 views | AtThePeake |
Good job some further research was done by the 'so-called experts' eh? | |
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| Heading The Ball on 22:42 - Jan 19 with 1789 views | D_Alien |
If you follow the logic of both "No" answers, they make perfect sense
Of course, that implies you're able to follow logic. I have my doubts | |
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| Heading The Ball on 22:57 - Jan 19 with 1766 views | pioneer |
Failed again!
You said no but didnt say which question
You then said it wasn't a no to both
so is it yes and no or no and yes?
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| Heading The Ball on 23:07 - Jan 19 with 1762 views | D_Alien |
It was you that asked for a simple Yes or No, you fool
I've been running rings round you again, as ever. You should feel grateful I've even bothered, but youngsters not being required to risk unnecessary harm is too important to ignore, even though the ignorant will try | |
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| Heading The Ball on 01:31 - Jan 20 with 1735 views | kiwidale |
You have certainly mastered the art of being ranthoneous D_A top marks for that. | |
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| Heading The Ball on 02:08 - Jan 20 with 1724 views | pioneer |
I'm not feeling dizzy yet with those rings nor grateful but I know I should!
No youngster is being 'required' (your word) to risk unnecessary harm - I don't recall anyone suggesting playing football or heading the ball should be required of all children (even though there is no evidence of unnecessary harm). Your argument seems to be about stopping ANY child doing this even though there is no evidence of harm.
I suppose we could sit them in front of a computer instead . . .that wont harm them will it? | | | |
| Heading The Ball on 07:43 - Jan 20 with 1690 views | D_Alien |
Listen, and listen well, because this is my last word on this matter
It's perfectly obvious to anyone but the most obtuse that the type of research you're requiring as evidence would take 50 years before the results came in
You and your ilk will be long gone by then, so the kids taking part wouldn't be able to put you to rights if they ended up with dementia. So on their behalf, i'm telling you it's just not worth the risk, in addition to being unethical. Indeed, such research wouldn't be allowed
Now, since you couldn't work that out for yourself, you've been told
Got it? Probably not... | |
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| Heading The Ball on 09:14 - Jan 20 with 1665 views | pioneer |
The self proclaimed voice of the world’s youth now ...they are so lucky to have you speak on their behalf. | | | |
| Heading The Ball on 20:11 - Jan 20 with 1596 views | JumeirahDale |
I've coached club football for kids in the US over the last few years. No heading. And the way some of these kids can play the ball out of the back using their feet and spread it around the field would make BBM blush. Although the USMNT struggles (as nobody gives a sh*t about mens soccer unless the World Cup is on), I'd expect the women's team to continue to dominate the sport for decades.
Quick question though to all the conspiracy theorists here - who exactly do you suspect is behind all this nefarious (obviously flawed) research to reduce incidental and unnecessary head trauma in children? Who exactly do you think is getting rich off this? Is it the football boot manufacturers hoping for more kicking, therefore more wear and tear to the boots and higher sales? Or is it those folks over at Johnson and Johnson worried about declining sales of Head and Shoulders now that kids aren't coming home with half of Oulder Hill in their hair?
I'm assuming it will be the old "governments love to justify their existence" trope - because we all know how much our government loves to spend a bit of cash on something without a financial return eh?
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| Heading The Ball on 21:13 - Jan 20 with 1562 views | kiwidale |
Folks of our ilk should know our place. I'm fully expecting D_A to decare himself god it cant be too far away now. | |
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| Heading The Ball on 21:32 - Jan 20 with 1540 views | D_Alien |
This thread is about heading the ball, not heading the universe
God x | |
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| Heading The Ball on 00:55 - Jan 21 with 1491 views | pioneer |
my point is simply if we want to make claims about the risks of kids heading footballs we need to study kids heading footballs not ex scottish professional footballers incidence of dementia( in which incidentally there isnt any measurement of whether and how much they headed the ball).
Of course we could choose to say we dont care about whether we have any evidence we simply believe its wrong for kids to be heading footballs. But then what else could folks then say they 'believe' kids shouldnt be doing and on what basis do we make those claims.
That is the slippery slope, basing intrusive public policy on 'beliefs' not evidence | | | |
| Heading The Ball on 06:30 - Jan 21 with 1461 views | D_Alien |
Yes, i know i said i wouldn't respond again, but this really is too much
At 11.33 on 19 Jan you said a randomised trial couldn't be conducted with kids, and accused me of "embarrassing myself"
So come on, enlighten us all as to how you'd propose to "study kids heading footballs"
I can't wait...
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| Heading The Ball on 06:52 - Jan 21 with 1453 views | kiwidale |
Stop it DA just stop it. You are twisting his words, deliberately twisting his words, I know it Pioneer knows it and anybody that has followed this thread knows it. You are clutching at straws and it discredits you not him. [Post edited 21 Jan 2020 6:56]
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| Heading The Ball on 07:22 - Jan 21 with 1439 views | pioneer |
Buy yourself and introduction to epidemiology text book. If you can understand that you could graduate to something more advanced. | | | |
| Heading The Ball on 07:26 - Jan 21 with 1429 views | kiwidale |
What pioneer said. | |
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| Heading The Ball on 07:41 - Jan 21 with 1416 views | kiwidale |
Serious question regarding this new heading rule for uner12s, how will it work. Lets say in the last minute of a junior cup final little jonny heads the winner nothing spectacular just nods the bouncing ball on the line in. What is the refs decision goal or free kick to the defending team. | |
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| Heading The Ball on 07:41 - Jan 21 with 1414 views | D_Alien |
Instead of yet another smarmy reply, consider this:
Look back through this thread, and you'll find I've never suggested such a study. I did suggest it'd be unethical to conduct any study, but you didn't listen did you. It'd be unethical to ask the parents of under-12s to allow their children to head footballs as part of any study - the risk of potential damage would be too great. And that's all it is - a risk
So answer the question pioneer - how would you propose to conduct a study of "kids heading footballs" to the standard of evidence you seem to require before the risk is deemed too great?
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| Heading The Ball on 07:45 - Jan 21 with 1407 views | kiwidale |
I can see this infuriating D_A not only will he get his thesaurus out but his medical lexicon will get an airing, fasten your seatbelts. | |
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| Heading The Ball on 07:59 - Jan 21 with 1394 views | D_Alien |
Might i suggest you stfu and go head a football | |
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| Heading The Ball on 08:03 - Jan 21 with 1389 views | kiwidale |
I cant lad I've just laughed my fook'n head off at your madness  [Post edited 21 Jan 2020 8:06]
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