| Linford Christie Stadium. 18:04 - Aug 9 with 148278 views | ted_hendrix |
That's where our new ground will be. |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 12:05 - Jul 25 with 5271 views | QPRConor2000 |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 09:08 - Jul 25 by NorthantsHoop |
Sort of feel that this will be the way it happens, very similar to how Heston came about. |
I think the same too, recon the owners will end up buying some land in OOC and end up building the new stadium there, tbf a 13 acre site might be fine for a new stadium
Old Oak Common is going to be a big development area in the coming years with HS2 set to have a station there, so we might as well go in now.
I recon our new stadium might actually end up in Old Oak Common after all, despite what a certain company called Cargiant says.
In fact, the old oak common development cooperation removed Cargiants plans from the development, so potentially there is a chance here for us to buy land if we want it.
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:24 - Jul 25 with 5085 views | Hoopsie |
It will be great if we could own it fully not a lease, but 8 years of silence after the initial excitement I wonder if we are is still in it? |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:41 - Jul 25 with 5019 views | QPRConor2000 |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:24 - Jul 25 by Hoopsie |
It will be great if we could own it fully not a lease, but 8 years of silence after the initial excitement I wonder if we are is still in it? |
I wonder too, the proposed stadium sat on land owned by Cargiant, and we know that they played hardball didnt they and refused to sell?
Perhaps we have gone back in for it? | | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 23:09 - Jul 25 with 4671 views | NewBee |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 23:30 - Jul 21 by QPR_Jim |
The last bit about ownership I think that's what the key issue is at the Linford Christie Stadium.
Club would want a long lease like the warren farm set up where they build the stadium for private use tailored to QPR and provide some community use (although at LC there would be limited space for much else)
I think it was reported that the council wanted QPR as a tenant which means some council built stadium, probably with a running track, certainly adding a rent to our FFP calculations. Completely unviable to anyone with a working knowledge of how FFP works and how we need control to generate non-matchday revenues etc so obviously what the council are trying to force. Hence the council framing the long lease with QPR giving some community function as giving land away to rich owners rather than securing the future of a community asset. |
"... we need control to generate non-matchday revenues etc"
No offence, but out of all the new stadia which have been built, or substantially re-built, in the post Taylor Report era, how many actually do generate significant non-matchday revenues?
We keep hearing fans talk about this (not just QPR), but unless someone can demonstrate to me otherwise, I don't believe it actually happens very much, if at all*.
* - OK, I'll give you Spurs - easy enough if you've a billion quid to spare. | | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 00:11 - Jul 26 with 4549 views | CateLeBonR |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 12:05 - Jul 25 by QPRConor2000 |
I think the same too, recon the owners will end up buying some land in OOC and end up building the new stadium there, tbf a 13 acre site might be fine for a new stadium
Old Oak Common is going to be a big development area in the coming years with HS2 set to have a station there, so we might as well go in now.
I recon our new stadium might actually end up in Old Oak Common after all, despite what a certain company called Cargiant says.
In fact, the old oak common development cooperation removed Cargiants plans from the development, so potentially there is a chance here for us to buy land if we want it.
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Here it is.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Old%20Oak%20Common%20Elizabeth%20Line%20Depot&am [Post edited 26 Jul 2023 0:11]
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 01:47 - Jul 26 with 4469 views | Hoopsie |
Oaklands Rise
Location Old Oak Common, London
Client Notting Hill Genesis Housing Association (NHG) | Queens Park Rangers FC (QPR)
Content 605 Residential Units (40% Affordable and 60% PRS) | 3,500m² Commercial
Status Built
<Above, from the architects CZWG website, the development is completed> | |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 12:29 - Jul 30 with 3797 views | QPRConor2000 |
I saw this as well, my guess is that it might be purely down to the club keeping their options open at the time. | | | |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:20 - Jul 30 with 3696 views | MedwayR |
Probably because that had nothing to do with the club. |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:28 - Jul 30 with 3671 views | Hoopsie |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:20 - Jul 30 by MedwayR |
Probably because that had nothing to do with the club. |
You are probably right but conducting “speculative” feasible study by a property and construction consultancy firm collaborating with an architect firm, those time and resources spent is going to cost someone some serious monies. They wouldn’t do it to impress the club, would they? | |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:37 - Jul 30 with 3639 views | francisbowles |
Reading that, I think they are having a laugh.
'You can't squeeze a quart into a pint pot'. | | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 15:19 - Jul 30 with 3517 views | Esox_Lucius |
With the ULEZ expansion and rising congestion charges in the offing it might be time to head out past Hillingdon to stay in the west and still attract fans who can afford tickets? [Post edited 8 Aug 2023 16:17]
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 19:08 - Jul 30 with 3237 views | QPRConor2000 |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 15:19 - Jul 30 by Esox_Lucius |
With the ULEZ expansion and rising congestion charges in the offing it might be time to head out past Hillingdon to stay in the west and still attract fans who can afford tickets? [Post edited 8 Aug 2023 16:17]
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ULEZ will end up not lasting long, or end up being deemed unenforceable, many wont pay it and it will end up going down the way of the poll tax.
As for the stadium, I could see Ealing/Acton perhaps being the area we settle on, I think options next to W12 should be considered if there are any possible sites. | | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 11:26 - Aug 8 with 2743 views | Hoopstar |
Truly am envious of Brighton - an example of how to go about it right. I don't live too far away from the Amex, bit out of the way but has good transport links and is a great stadium in my opinion.
Only 20 or so years since we had the Andy Thomson/Bobby Zamora top scorer showdown in League One. How far Brighton have come in the interim period, admittedly with very little other local competition, further highlights our own failings as a club. |  | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 11:39 - Aug 8 with 5341 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 11:26 - Aug 8 by Hoopstar |
Truly am envious of Brighton - an example of how to go about it right. I don't live too far away from the Amex, bit out of the way but has good transport links and is a great stadium in my opinion.
Only 20 or so years since we had the Andy Thomson/Bobby Zamora top scorer showdown in League One. How far Brighton have come in the interim period, admittedly with very little other local competition, further highlights our own failings as a club. |
I'm certainly critical of the clown show's approach to acquiring a new ground over the last decade but that figure is staggering - £595m. You see Brighton shirts all over Sussex now too. Just goes to show what's possible - H&F Council should hang their heads in shame. [Post edited 8 Aug 2023 11:40]
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 11:44 - Aug 8 with 5312 views | Hayesender |
Funny lot down here in Sussex. Man utd, Liverpool, and Chelsea shirts everywhere, yet when Brighton were in the semi final a few months ago, they all seemed to swap their shirts to Brighton for the day.
Even the man utd lot, and they were playing them. Fcking weird |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 12:00 - Aug 8 with 5205 views | A40Bosh |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 12:53 - Jul 23 by dutch |
God I hope not. I support a London team not one in the boondocks. Have no idea how to get to Ruislip and don't want to find out. That would be like leaving Mayfair to live in Macclesfield. In W12 we stay. (O maybe W111. Or 10) |
I know it was probably meant in jest but getting to “Ruislip” will be the least of your problems.
One of the best served areas of ‘west London’ in terms of public transport.
Central Line to one of 3 Ruislip based stations within 18 mins from White City.
Met and Piccadilly lines out to Eastcote, Ruislip Manor, Ruislip stations. You also have the Chiltern line from Marylebone calling at two Ruislip stations.
And then there are the many bus services.
As I said that will be the least of your problems. You think LBH&F are difficult to deal with, wait until you take on LB Hillingdon for planning.
Anyway we have our own local team in Ruislip Manor now who will be in League Two in a few years and we won’t want you cockney yobs moving your tin pot club out to Middlesex darling. (Just practicing for when I lose the plot when we get relegated and start supporting Wealdstone next season) |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:02 - Aug 8 with 4997 views | NewBee |
Thanks for posting. Personally I'm always a bit unsure about some of these figures - difficult to quantify a lot of the time - even if the overall picture may be reasonable enough.
One stat really stood out for me:
"Last season 54,000 visitors from overseas were among the 600,000 people who watched games at the American Express Stadium."
I know that a lot of people at London club games come from overseas - visiting on holiday or in town on business etc, as well as flying in specifically for a game(s). But Brighton? Nearly one in ten of all fans?
Unless they are also counting foreign nationals who are actually resident in Brighton, or live nearby, or are away fans etc? (That is, following a simple survey asking attendees what their nationality is, without specifying where they actually reside).
Anyhow, I know that Brentford get quite a few overseas fans, while any time I've been to Spurs with a mate, I'm always struck by how many overseas fans - Koreans alone must make up a good few per cent - the "Son Effect"!
While I always think Fulham get quite a few overseas/visitors/neutrals etc, not least because their games don't always sell out very quickly, meaning tickets aren't quite so hard to come by. I imagine WHU might be similar, what with having 60k+ tickets to shift? [Post edited 8 Aug 2023 13:06]
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:15 - Aug 8 with 4913 views | ted_hendrix |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:02 - Aug 8 by NewBee |
Thanks for posting. Personally I'm always a bit unsure about some of these figures - difficult to quantify a lot of the time - even if the overall picture may be reasonable enough.
One stat really stood out for me:
"Last season 54,000 visitors from overseas were among the 600,000 people who watched games at the American Express Stadium."
I know that a lot of people at London club games come from overseas - visiting on holiday or in town on business etc, as well as flying in specifically for a game(s). But Brighton? Nearly one in ten of all fans?
Unless they are also counting foreign nationals who are actually resident in Brighton, or live nearby, or are away fans etc? (That is, following a simple survey asking attendees what their nationality is, without specifying where they actually reside).
Anyhow, I know that Brentford get quite a few overseas fans, while any time I've been to Spurs with a mate, I'm always struck by how many overseas fans - Koreans alone must make up a good few per cent - the "Son Effect"!
While I always think Fulham get quite a few overseas/visitors/neutrals etc, not least because their games don't always sell out very quickly, meaning tickets aren't quite so hard to come by. I imagine WHU might be similar, what with having 60k+ tickets to shift? [Post edited 8 Aug 2023 13:06]
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We had loads of Koreans dotted around the lower loft when we were last In the Prem.
They used to get on my bloody nerves with they're stupid little flags and the only reason they were at LR was because we had some Korean player who when selected used to stand around a lot whilst probably drawing a weekly wage of circa £60k. I think his name was Park and Ride or similar, either way he was shyte.
They soon f ucked off when we got relegated. | |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:34 - Aug 8 with 4796 views | Rs_Holy |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:15 - Aug 8 by ted_hendrix |
We had loads of Koreans dotted around the lower loft when we were last In the Prem.
They used to get on my bloody nerves with they're stupid little flags and the only reason they were at LR was because we had some Korean player who when selected used to stand around a lot whilst probably drawing a weekly wage of circa £60k. I think his name was Park and Ride or similar, either way he was shyte.
They soon f ucked off when we got relegated. |
my personal favourite was that seasons FA Cup humiliation (it was the McDons that year). I think most season ticket holders didn't bother getting FA Cup tickets so the Ellerslie Road Stand had hundreds of Park fans in it.
Lots of girls screaming every time he touched the ball ... and that was just in the warm up. [Post edited 8 Aug 2023 13:52]
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:35 - Aug 8 with 4794 views | loftboy |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:15 - Aug 8 by ted_hendrix |
We had loads of Koreans dotted around the lower loft when we were last In the Prem.
They used to get on my bloody nerves with they're stupid little flags and the only reason they were at LR was because we had some Korean player who when selected used to stand around a lot whilst probably drawing a weekly wage of circa £60k. I think his name was Park and Ride or similar, either way he was shyte.
They soon f ucked off when we got relegated. |
I upset a couple in the west Paddock Ted, we were losing at half time and it was announced he was coming on, lady next to me started to shriek and scream, I said “ what are you so happy about he’s fûcking shit” she said I disrespected a national hero, to which I replied “whilst he’s wearing Blue and white hoops he has to have talent which he doesn’t anymore , his legs have one and he’s stealing a living” |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:40 - Aug 8 with 4731 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:02 - Aug 8 by NewBee |
Thanks for posting. Personally I'm always a bit unsure about some of these figures - difficult to quantify a lot of the time - even if the overall picture may be reasonable enough.
One stat really stood out for me:
"Last season 54,000 visitors from overseas were among the 600,000 people who watched games at the American Express Stadium."
I know that a lot of people at London club games come from overseas - visiting on holiday or in town on business etc, as well as flying in specifically for a game(s). But Brighton? Nearly one in ten of all fans?
Unless they are also counting foreign nationals who are actually resident in Brighton, or live nearby, or are away fans etc? (That is, following a simple survey asking attendees what their nationality is, without specifying where they actually reside).
Anyhow, I know that Brentford get quite a few overseas fans, while any time I've been to Spurs with a mate, I'm always struck by how many overseas fans - Koreans alone must make up a good few per cent - the "Son Effect"!
While I always think Fulham get quite a few overseas/visitors/neutrals etc, not least because their games don't always sell out very quickly, meaning tickets aren't quite so hard to come by. I imagine WHU might be similar, what with having 60k+ tickets to shift? [Post edited 8 Aug 2023 13:06]
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Oh I agree that figures like this are massaged but I'm sure there is a huge economic benefit to the area from the AmEx, which H&F Council clearly aren't bothered about. I disagree with our approach (hoping to get a stadium for free) but it's pretty shocking this has been dragging on for more than a decade now. [Post edited 8 Aug 2023 13:43]
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:44 - Aug 8 with 4737 views | Hayesender |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:35 - Aug 8 by loftboy |
I upset a couple in the west Paddock Ted, we were losing at half time and it was announced he was coming on, lady next to me started to shriek and scream, I said “ what are you so happy about he’s fûcking shit” she said I disrespected a national hero, to which I replied “whilst he’s wearing Blue and white hoops he has to have talent which he doesn’t anymore , his legs have one and he’s stealing a living” |
I upset a load in the east paddock one evening cup game. They were all screeching and wailing like beatles fans on speed. During a lull in their noise, I stood up and shouted "Ji sun park". They all looked round at me grinning, so I finished off my sentence.
"Hes fcking shite"
I've never seen grins turn to angry frowns so quickly. I thought I was gonna get a flying kick to the head.
As shite as we are now, I never wanna go back to those dark days | |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 14:32 - Aug 8 with 4512 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 12:53 - Jul 23 by dutch |
God I hope not. I support a London team not one in the boondocks. Have no idea how to get to Ruislip and don't want to find out. That would be like leaving Mayfair to live in Macclesfield. In W12 we stay. (O maybe W111. Or 10) |
Au contraire. Moving from White City to Ruislip would be more like leaving Macclesfield to live in Mayfair. |  | | |
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