| Kicking off in Strady 18:53 - Aug 14 with 17280 views | shingle |
Watching a live stream video of it now Police inciting things by the look of it four of them forcefully grabbing and arresting an old man who has to be in his seventies and now they have realised he was the wrong guy and let the poor sod go crazy times. |  | | |  |
| Kicking off in Strady on 14:56 - Sep 3 with 1117 views | Whiterockin |
| Kicking off in Strady on 14:19 - Sep 3 by Gwyn737 |
Tbf I don’t think churches are closing due to immigration. It’s rapidly falling numbers over a long period of time.
There are schools that don’t do the nativity but it’s not the norm. I don’t they the Christmas is under threat thing rings true. Not at a national level anyway. |
Gwyn it's been the norm in schools in several areas of Swansea for a while, mostly those with a high percentage of non white children. |  | | |
| Kicking off in Strady on 15:01 - Sep 3 with 1109 views | onehunglow |
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| Kicking off in Strady on 15:05 - Sep 3 with 1099 views | Gwyn737 |
| Kicking off in Strady on 14:56 - Sep 3 by Whiterockin |
Gwyn it's been the norm in schools in several areas of Swansea for a while, mostly those with a high percentage of non white children. |
I kinda get that, if that’s the community that’s being served.
I don’t think that those in more predominantly white areas are stopping.
Interestingly in my experience it’s not Muslims, Sikhs etc that have an issue and withdraw their children from Christmas, by far the most fundamentalist are Jehovah’s Witnesses. | | | |
| Kicking off in Strady on 15:09 - Sep 3 with 1088 views | Gwyn737 |
I’m not downplaying concerns but I don’t like this 4 star hotel narrative.
They’re not going to have a concierge and continental breakfast served to them are they?
It’s a room. | | | |
| Kicking off in Strady on 15:13 - Sep 3 with 1089 views | Whiterockin |
| Kicking off in Strady on 15:05 - Sep 3 by Gwyn737 |
I kinda get that, if that’s the community that’s being served.
I don’t think that those in more predominantly white areas are stopping.
Interestingly in my experience it’s not Muslims, Sikhs etc that have an issue and withdraw their children from Christmas, by far the most fundamentalist are Jehovah’s Witnesses. |
I was first aware of it about 2004. A girl working for me explained about the Christmas nativity issue, I'm pretty sure it was a school in the sand fields. It has become much more predominant since then with some schools becoming totally "non Christian" if that is the correct term. I can understand it, but it make inclusiveness difficult. | | | |
| Kicking off in Strady on 15:17 - Sep 3 with 1070 views | Gwyn737 |
| Kicking off in Strady on 15:13 - Sep 3 by Whiterockin |
I was first aware of it about 2004. A girl working for me explained about the Christmas nativity issue, I'm pretty sure it was a school in the sand fields. It has become much more predominant since then with some schools becoming totally "non Christian" if that is the correct term. I can understand it, but it make inclusiveness difficult. |
Depends where you are in the country too.
About a quarter of our school are faith based and some are in very multicultural areas.
My last school was about 60% Bangladeshi, but as it was a Church of England Aided school, those children had to be involved with everything, including Anglican mass. [Post edited 3 Sep 2023 17:52]
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| Kicking off in Strady on 17:34 - Sep 3 with 1040 views | howenjack |
| Kicking off in Strady on 15:01 - Sep 3 by onehunglow |
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The river helps us here |
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| Kicking off in Strady on 18:41 - Sep 3 with 1014 views | shingle |
So what you think then if, this small island of ours becomes overcrowded due to countless thousands from other cultures and countries continuing to arrive in there droves to you think there will be no impact on our services etc and everything will be fine, what you reckon the conclusion will be. | | | |
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| Kicking off in Strady on 21:04 - Sep 3 with 968 views | trampie |
| Kicking off in Strady on 15:17 - Sep 3 by Gwyn737 |
Depends where you are in the country too.
About a quarter of our school are faith based and some are in very multicultural areas.
My last school was about 60% Bangladeshi, but as it was a Church of England Aided school, those children had to be involved with everything, including Anglican mass. [Post edited 3 Sep 2023 17:52]
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The people that run faith schools, parents that support faith schools and teachers in faith schools I have a low opinion of, they only allow certain pupils in, those from a disadvantaged background they don't let in, which I think is awful.
There are some faiths that don't do this but some of the more well known faith's discriminate against disadvantaged children, there should be a law against it in this day and age but as we know England has a state religion and that country is often medieval in its outlook. [Post edited 3 Sep 2023 21:05]
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| Kicking off in Strady on 21:08 - Sep 3 with 960 views | Boundy |
| Kicking off in Strady on 14:55 - Sep 3 by Gwyn737 |
Apologies if it’s came across like that - not my intention 👍 |
no need to apologise but thanks all the same . | |
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| Kicking off in Strady on 21:21 - Sep 3 with 950 views | Togg |
| Kicking off in Strady on 21:04 - Sep 3 by trampie |
The people that run faith schools, parents that support faith schools and teachers in faith schools I have a low opinion of, they only allow certain pupils in, those from a disadvantaged background they don't let in, which I think is awful.
There are some faiths that don't do this but some of the more well known faith's discriminate against disadvantaged children, there should be a law against it in this day and age but as we know England has a state religion and that country is often medieval in its outlook. [Post edited 3 Sep 2023 21:05]
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'England has a state religion and the country is often medieval in its outlook '. We have the ' Church in Wales'. Chapel which I was Christened in to. We did have some draconian drinking regulations mind you. The Methodists in Wales were very much anti alcohol because there were loads of cases of men blowing their wages on booze and then abusing their spouses.The UK including England have some of the most tolerant laws when it comes to religion. Look at the mad mulah preachers who got away with violent anti Western vitriol you would ever hear. Try doing similar in Saudi , Iran, Pakistan etc .. good luck there. Remember we are joined at the hip with England. Many of us have relatives, friends, work colleagues and do business across the border You really need to reign in your xenophobic views. | | | |
| Kicking off in Strady on 21:24 - Sep 3 with 947 views | Gwyn737 |
| Kicking off in Strady on 21:04 - Sep 3 by trampie |
The people that run faith schools, parents that support faith schools and teachers in faith schools I have a low opinion of, they only allow certain pupils in, those from a disadvantaged background they don't let in, which I think is awful.
There are some faiths that don't do this but some of the more well known faith's discriminate against disadvantaged children, there should be a law against it in this day and age but as we know England has a state religion and that country is often medieval in its outlook. [Post edited 3 Sep 2023 21:05]
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Brilliant.
You literally couldn’t have written more incorrect things in a single paragraph.
I’m not going to bother with your opinions. They’re yours and that’s fine.
However, the massive majority of faith schools do not have any kind of religious requirement to their admissions. From a Christianity point of view it’s only really catholic schools. Same rules apply to staffing.
The point you make on disadvantaged children is simply wrong. No school which receives taxpayer money can apply any kind of admissions block for financial reasons.
Stop being a troll. | | | |
| Kicking off in Strady on 21:32 - Sep 3 with 934 views | trampie |
| Kicking off in Strady on 21:24 - Sep 3 by Gwyn737 |
Brilliant.
You literally couldn’t have written more incorrect things in a single paragraph.
I’m not going to bother with your opinions. They’re yours and that’s fine.
However, the massive majority of faith schools do not have any kind of religious requirement to their admissions. From a Christianity point of view it’s only really catholic schools. Same rules apply to staffing.
The point you make on disadvantaged children is simply wrong. No school which receives taxpayer money can apply any kind of admissions block for financial reasons.
Stop being a troll. |
https://humanists.uk/2021/08/06/children-in-care-excluded-from-76-of-catholic-an
It seems that children in-care/been in-care are excluded from 76% of Catholic and 100% of Jewish secondary schools in England through their admissions policies according to research. [Post edited 3 Sep 2023 21:39]
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| Kicking off in Strady on 21:40 - Sep 3 with 922 views | Gwyn737 |
Yes. Exactly as I said. Catholic schools. (And the tiny amount of Jewish school).
I said any school that is centrally funded by the taxpayer cannot discriminate. This is the massive majority of faith schools.
Off you go. | | | |
| Kicking off in Strady on 21:48 - Sep 3 with 906 views | trampie |
| Kicking off in Strady on 21:40 - Sep 3 by Gwyn737 |
Yes. Exactly as I said. Catholic schools. (And the tiny amount of Jewish school).
I said any school that is centrally funded by the taxpayer cannot discriminate. This is the massive majority of faith schools.
Off you go. |
I'm not wrong then am I, unless you think the article is wrong, perhaps you have been a teacher in Ingerland too long butt, troll my a*se, it's a disgrace that disadvantaged children in care in England (or anywhere else for that matter) are discriminated against by religious people running schools. | |
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| Kicking off in Strady on 21:56 - Sep 3 with 897 views | Gwyn737 |
| Kicking off in Strady on 21:48 - Sep 3 by trampie |
I'm not wrong then am I, unless you think the article is wrong, perhaps you have been a teacher in Ingerland too long butt, troll my a*se, it's a disgrace that disadvantaged children in care in England (or anywhere else for that matter) are discriminated against by religious people running schools. |
Yes it’s trolling.
You take a tiny number pretend it represents the whole. Which it doesn’t.
I agree that faith based admission is wrong, but to suggest it’s the norm in faith school is just a lie.
Or trolling. | | | |
| Kicking off in Strady on 21:57 - Sep 3 with 894 views | trampie |
| Kicking off in Strady on 21:21 - Sep 3 by Togg |
'England has a state religion and the country is often medieval in its outlook '. We have the ' Church in Wales'. Chapel which I was Christened in to. We did have some draconian drinking regulations mind you. The Methodists in Wales were very much anti alcohol because there were loads of cases of men blowing their wages on booze and then abusing their spouses.The UK including England have some of the most tolerant laws when it comes to religion. Look at the mad mulah preachers who got away with violent anti Western vitriol you would ever hear. Try doing similar in Saudi , Iran, Pakistan etc .. good luck there. Remember we are joined at the hip with England. Many of us have relatives, friends, work colleagues and do business across the border You really need to reign in your xenophobic views. |
Any country like England that has a Monarchy, a state religion and an unelected chamber of Government (House of Lords) is medieval in outlook and that is not being xenophobic it's a fact England has a Monarchy, a state religion and an unelected chamber of Government. [Post edited 3 Sep 2023 22:02]
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| Kicking off in Strady on 22:00 - Sep 3 with 885 views | trampie |
| Kicking off in Strady on 21:56 - Sep 3 by Gwyn737 |
Yes it’s trolling.
You take a tiny number pretend it represents the whole. Which it doesn’t.
I agree that faith based admission is wrong, but to suggest it’s the norm in faith school is just a lie.
Or trolling. |
I didn't suggest it was the norm I said some faiths that have faith schools don't do it, you are not very good at reading posts in their entirety for a teacher are you. [Post edited 3 Sep 2023 22:01]
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| Kicking off in Strady on 22:03 - Sep 3 with 876 views | Gwyn737 |
| Kicking off in Strady on 22:00 - Sep 3 by trampie |
I didn't suggest it was the norm I said some faiths that have faith schools don't do it, you are not very good at reading posts in their entirety for a teacher are you. [Post edited 3 Sep 2023 22:01]
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Dress it up as you want.
You’re just being disingenuous.
That’s me out. | | | |
| Kicking off in Strady on 22:13 - Sep 3 with 860 views | trampie |
| Kicking off in Strady on 22:03 - Sep 3 by Gwyn737 |
Dress it up as you want.
You’re just being disingenuous.
That’s me out. |
What I said was fair enough (backed up by the article) and you tried to say I said something else.
The truth hurts sometimes Gwyn, I see unfairness and I don't like it, I will speak up for those that don't have much of a voice. | |
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| Kicking off in Strady on 22:18 - Sep 3 with 847 views | onehunglow |
| Kicking off in Strady on 21:21 - Sep 3 by Togg |
'England has a state religion and the country is often medieval in its outlook '. We have the ' Church in Wales'. Chapel which I was Christened in to. We did have some draconian drinking regulations mind you. The Methodists in Wales were very much anti alcohol because there were loads of cases of men blowing their wages on booze and then abusing their spouses.The UK including England have some of the most tolerant laws when it comes to religion. Look at the mad mulah preachers who got away with violent anti Western vitriol you would ever hear. Try doing similar in Saudi , Iran, Pakistan etc .. good luck there. Remember we are joined at the hip with England. Many of us have relatives, friends, work colleagues and do business across the border You really need to reign in your xenophobic views. |
My mother,a Sandfield girl,used to go to Christ Church,by the jail.
This was Church offEngkand - in Wales
Church………of ………England
Welsh non conformism is synonymous with racism,sexisism,homophobia and sexual abuse although not as bad as Catholic Ireland . | |
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| Kicking off in Strady on 22:57 - Sep 3 with 818 views | Togg |
| Kicking off in Strady on 21:48 - Sep 3 by trampie |
I'm not wrong then am I, unless you think the article is wrong, perhaps you have been a teacher in Ingerland too long butt, troll my a*se, it's a disgrace that disadvantaged children in care in England (or anywhere else for that matter) are discriminated against by religious people running schools. |
Not very articulate that post.. Ingerland a*se. . You've either been drinking or you're not that bright. | | | |
| Kicking off in Strady on 22:58 - Sep 3 with 813 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Kicking off in Strady on 15:13 - Sep 3 by Whiterockin |
I was first aware of it about 2004. A girl working for me explained about the Christmas nativity issue, I'm pretty sure it was a school in the sand fields. It has become much more predominant since then with some schools becoming totally "non Christian" if that is the correct term. I can understand it, but it make inclusiveness difficult. |
So they should. Schools should be secular. If they want to believe in mumbo jumbo sky fairy nonsense creating the world by clicking their fingers then they can do it in their own time.
Education should be about facts. |  |
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| Kicking off in Strady on 23:01 - Sep 3 with 806 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Kicking off in Strady on 15:05 - Sep 3 by Gwyn737 |
I kinda get that, if that’s the community that’s being served.
I don’t think that those in more predominantly white areas are stopping.
Interestingly in my experience it’s not Muslims, Sikhs etc that have an issue and withdraw their children from Christmas, by far the most fundamentalist are Jehovah’s Witnesses. |
That would be an ecumenical matter. | |
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| Kicking off in Strady on 23:02 - Sep 3 with 805 views | Togg |
| Kicking off in Strady on 21:57 - Sep 3 by trampie |
Any country like England that has a Monarchy, a state religion and an unelected chamber of Government (House of Lords) is medieval in outlook and that is not being xenophobic it's a fact England has a Monarchy, a state religion and an unelected chamber of Government. [Post edited 3 Sep 2023 22:02]
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I believe the whole of the UK (that includes Wales)has a monarchy. So do the Netherlands, Sweden and Spain. Honestly if you represent Welsh Nationalism , I want nothing to do with it and so do the majority of level headed Welsh people. Troll on mate. | | | |
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