| Warren Farm 10:13 - Nov 1 with 89592 views | connell10 |
Some one saying on WATRB that the Supreme court has thrown out the appeal placed against us and Warren Farm is a goer! Good news if true! |  |
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| Warren Farm on 11:28 - Feb 25 with 3607 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Warren Farm on 11:19 - Feb 25 by LythamR |
I havent seen any evidence that its brentford fans
I am sure we were told back in the day that all preparatory checks etc were proceeding so we could crack on as soon as we got the green light legally then the skylarks arrived
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And I think there's some you can do, but some will have to run their course only once the objections are cleared. There's insurance issues for a start. |  |
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| Warren Farm on 11:32 - Feb 25 with 3581 views | actonman |
If it helps speed things up , I played football there regularly 20 years ago and can confirm there was asbestos !
That should shave a couple of months off the waiting process |  | | |
| Warren Farm on 13:23 - Feb 25 with 3369 views | PunteR |
| Warren Farm on 11:32 - Feb 25 by actonman |
If it helps speed things up , I played football there regularly 20 years ago and can confirm there was asbestos !
That should shave a couple of months off the waiting process |
It was probably in your shin pads years ago... |  |
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| Warren Farm on 13:25 - Feb 25 with 3363 views | PinnerPaul |
| Warren Farm on 08:56 - Feb 25 by BrianMcCarthy |
Not to give out but I think the reaction to this article shows the weariness with WF's many setbacks.
Ferdinand has said that we are working on it at present, that we will be turning the sod soon and might even be saying that we will be in by Aug '21. And yet half of the posts are cautious or disbelieving.
I found that surprising at first, but once I thought about the historical context and the many disappointments to date, then such caution makes complete sense.
Still, though, the next bit of news was always going to be either positive or else one that confirmed the abandonment of the project. And we got the former.
Time to hope, maybe. Albeit cautious hope. |
Hate to contradict you BM but I think the reaction on here is typical of this board, some will find negatives/stick to their negative view whatever the club says and then if you actually point out some facts or hush my mouth support the club, you just get abuse back. |  | | |
| Warren Farm on 13:41 - Feb 25 with 3309 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Warren Farm on 13:25 - Feb 25 by PinnerPaul |
Hate to contradict you BM but I think the reaction on here is typical of this board, some will find negatives/stick to their negative view whatever the club says and then if you actually point out some facts or hush my mouth support the club, you just get abuse back. |
I agree with that, PP.
It's just that it's as humans we're more inclined to be sceptical when we've already seen setbacks.
I remain cautiously optimistic about WF, but I can see why many are weary of it all. | |
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| Warren Farm on 13:42 - Feb 25 with 3301 views | PinnerPaul |
| Warren Farm on 13:41 - Feb 25 by BrianMcCarthy |
I agree with that, PP.
It's just that it's as humans we're more inclined to be sceptical when we've already seen setbacks.
I remain cautiously optimistic about WF, but I can see why many are weary of it all. |
On this particular subject I agree there are grounds for scepticism! | | | |
| Warren Farm on 13:46 - Feb 25 with 3282 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Warren Farm on 13:42 - Feb 25 by PinnerPaul |
On this particular subject I agree there are grounds for scepticism! |
I think the club should really come out with a statement at this stage, even if it's only a few lines on the website. | |
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| Warren Farm on 13:56 - Feb 25 with 3254 views | LythamR |
| Warren Farm on 11:26 - Feb 25 by Northernr |
The Save Warren Farm Twitter account is a Brentford fan. Occasionally lets the mask slip when he's had one too many glasses of wine. |
Thanks, I stand corrected.
I normally try to be optimistic. the owners and management have made Warren Farm a cornerstone for the future development of the club so i really want to see it happen.
Trouble is there has been so much bullcrap over the years that I get sceptical when looking for clarity and getting very little
I do tend to trust Hoos and Les generally so fingers crossed this eventually happens |  | | |
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| Warren Farm on 14:19 - Feb 25 with 3223 views | R_from_afar |
| Warren Farm on 13:46 - Feb 25 by BrianMcCarthy |
I think the club should really come out with a statement at this stage, even if it's only a few lines on the website. |
Absolutely! I don't know who is in charge of PR at QPR but that Kilburn Times article and the thought - or lack of it - behind it is shocking. I was a PR Manager until recently and I would be thoroughly embarrassed to be in any way involved with an article or announcement like that.
Look, I have leapt to the owners' defence time and again but they are fully aware that fans are desperate - desperate - to know what is going on with our oft-trumpeted infrastructure projects. There have been umpteen tweets, to the club and every senior employee at Rangers, asking for a progress update or bemoaning the lack of one.
Whether WF is Les' responsibility or not, the very least the club - well, the board, to be precise - should have done prior to the interview was to give him a short, clear and unambiguous statement on what the status of the project is. It's called communicating in a professional manner. If such a statement could not be produced in time, our head of communications should have postponed the interview.
Instead, they have given us a blue and white hooped Rosetta stone. It's poor and not only will the content they have provided further rile our weary fans, so will the unprofessional way in which they have delivered it.
Opportunity missed.
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| Warren Farm on 14:56 - Feb 25 with 3156 views | cyprusmel |
Is there a training ground/ complex incorporated in the LC development, if there is this might explain the supposed delays at Warren Farm. | | | |
| Warren Farm on 10:40 - Feb 27 with 2836 views | R_from_afar |
| Warren Farm on 11:36 - Feb 11 by Mick_S |
Well, the school is safe, but point taken.
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Stop press: The court of appeal has just ruled that the third runway is illegal! | |
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| Warren Farm on 10:48 - Feb 27 with 2789 views | Lblock |
| Warren Farm on 10:40 - Feb 27 by R_from_afar |
Stop press: The court of appeal has just ruled that the third runway is illegal! |
Damn!
I live close to Heathrow and have had all the stuff rammed down my throat about the environment but I was bang in favour of this.
Economic suicide
As I'm selfish I was also hoping for a bit of work off the back of the expansion to see me through to retirement...... |  |
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| Warren Farm on 10:49 - Feb 27 with 2784 views | Tonto |
| Warren Farm on 14:56 - Feb 25 by cyprusmel |
Is there a training ground/ complex incorporated in the LC development, if there is this might explain the supposed delays at Warren Farm. |
no - this is irrelevant. |  |
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| Warren Farm on 10:54 - Feb 27 with 2745 views | Northernr |
| Warren Farm on 10:40 - Feb 27 by R_from_afar |
Stop press: The court of appeal has just ruled that the third runway is illegal! |
Chris Grayling strikes again. |  | | |
| Warren Farm on 10:59 - Feb 27 with 2704 views | Boston |
Can all future news re training ground just be headed WTF (What The Farm)? | |
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| Warren Farm on 10:59 - Feb 27 with 2716 views | hook_hoops |
| Warren Farm on 10:40 - Feb 27 by R_from_afar |
Stop press: The court of appeal has just ruled that the third runway is illegal! |
....."But the judges said that in future, a third runway could go ahead, as long as it fits with the UK's climate commitments." | | | |
| Warren Farm on 11:05 - Feb 27 with 2680 views | R_from_afar |
| Warren Farm on 10:59 - Feb 27 by hook_hoops |
....."But the judges said that in future, a third runway could go ahead, as long as it fits with the UK's climate commitments." |
Yes, but that seemingly simple sentence hides a hugely difficult issue: The UK is legally required to have net-zero carbon emissions by 2050. That means that from a legal aspect alone - so, leaving environmental issues to one side - we need to come up with a way of sucking vast amounts of CO2 out of the atmosphere to counterbalance the emissions from flying. That is not trivial. | |
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| Warren Farm on 11:42 - Feb 27 with 2588 views | Boston |
| Warren Farm on 10:59 - Feb 27 by hook_hoops |
....."But the judges said that in future, a third runway could go ahead, as long as it fits with the UK's climate commitments." |
Cloudy with periods of rain? | |
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| Warren Farm on 12:04 - Feb 27 with 2546 views | R_from_afar |
| Warren Farm on 10:54 - Feb 27 by Northernr |
Chris Grayling strikes again. |
Spot on. I almost feel embarrassed to post this because it contains such an utterly stupid statement by Mr Grayling, but here goes:
"In a witness statement, the then transport secretary, Chris Grayling, said the 2015 Paris agreement was “not relevant” to climate policy and assessing the plans against the earlier and less strict Climate Change Act of 2008 was sufficient. But the court of appeal disagreed".
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| Warren Farm on 12:16 - Feb 27 with 2506 views | R_from_afar |
| Warren Farm on 10:48 - Feb 27 by Lblock |
Damn!
I live close to Heathrow and have had all the stuff rammed down my throat about the environment but I was bang in favour of this.
Economic suicide
As I'm selfish I was also hoping for a bit of work off the back of the expansion to see me through to retirement...... |
It doesn't make economic sense. The proponents of the third runway have frequently done an apples with pears comparison, comparing Heathrow's capacity alone with the capacity of *all* the airports offered by individual rival cities in continental Europe.
Also, it will cost at least £10bn (says TfL) just to sort out the transport links.
https://533d67b8-cd8c-4b9c-be04-d9f1956466a9.filesusr.com/ugd/8b8ad1_4cd4c5871f1 | |
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| Warren Farm on 12:43 - Feb 27 with 2438 views | connell10 |
| Warren Farm on 12:16 - Feb 27 by R_from_afar |
It doesn't make economic sense. The proponents of the third runway have frequently done an apples with pears comparison, comparing Heathrow's capacity alone with the capacity of *all* the airports offered by individual rival cities in continental Europe.
Also, it will cost at least £10bn (says TfL) just to sort out the transport links.
https://533d67b8-cd8c-4b9c-be04-d9f1956466a9.filesusr.com/ugd/8b8ad1_4cd4c5871f1 |
Great news f uck the third runway!! | |
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| Warren Farm on 13:39 - Feb 27 with 2361 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Warren Farm on 13:25 - Feb 25 by PinnerPaul |
Hate to contradict you BM but I think the reaction on here is typical of this board, some will find negatives/stick to their negative view whatever the club says and then if you actually point out some facts or hush my mouth support the club, you just get abuse back. |
Sorry, Pinner, I don't agree with that. Whilst there are some people that generally take a cynical view of life, in this particular case the criticism is justified and supported by facts.
The WF project was announced way back in spring 2012. True, the club had to fight legal challenges but the final legal hurdle was overcome in 2018. In November 2018 Hoos revealed that preparatory work had been completed in advance and he expected building work to commence in early 2019. Roll forward 15 months, no work has taken place and the club are painting a different picture. In the meantime, other clubs have managed to progress and complete infrastructure projects with a minimum of fuss.
Bear in mind too that FFP plays no part in the delay as infrastructure expenditure is exempt from FFP scrutiny. It also didn't escape me that Tony threatened to ditch the WF project unless QPR succeeded in their attempts to secure a stadium. This makes no sense as the 2 projects are mutually exclusive and WF is ready to develop now whilst the stadium is currently little more than an idea.
Given the challenges that the club has had to overcome, I would've thought that QPR would press ahead the moment that they received the green light in 2018. Instead, further delays have enabled the opposition to regroup, re-gather momentum and investigate other lines of challenge.
Now I'm generally a positive person but I have serious doubts about Warren Farm. I sincerely hope that I'm wrong and this turns out to be little more than PR mismanagement. However in the absence of concrete evidence to the contrary I simply can not ignore these facts in favour of blind optimism or the latest snippet from the club. [Post edited 27 Feb 2020 13:43]
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| Warren Farm on 15:06 - Feb 27 with 2240 views | kensalriser |
There are words and there are actions. |  |
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| Warren Farm on 15:45 - Feb 27 with 2155 views | 18StoneOfHoop |
| Warren Farm on 13:39 - Feb 27 by Benny_the_Ball |
Sorry, Pinner, I don't agree with that. Whilst there are some people that generally take a cynical view of life, in this particular case the criticism is justified and supported by facts.
The WF project was announced way back in spring 2012. True, the club had to fight legal challenges but the final legal hurdle was overcome in 2018. In November 2018 Hoos revealed that preparatory work had been completed in advance and he expected building work to commence in early 2019. Roll forward 15 months, no work has taken place and the club are painting a different picture. In the meantime, other clubs have managed to progress and complete infrastructure projects with a minimum of fuss.
Bear in mind too that FFP plays no part in the delay as infrastructure expenditure is exempt from FFP scrutiny. It also didn't escape me that Tony threatened to ditch the WF project unless QPR succeeded in their attempts to secure a stadium. This makes no sense as the 2 projects are mutually exclusive and WF is ready to develop now whilst the stadium is currently little more than an idea.
Given the challenges that the club has had to overcome, I would've thought that QPR would press ahead the moment that they received the green light in 2018. Instead, further delays have enabled the opposition to regroup, re-gather momentum and investigate other lines of challenge.
Now I'm generally a positive person but I have serious doubts about Warren Farm. I sincerely hope that I'm wrong and this turns out to be little more than PR mismanagement. However in the absence of concrete evidence to the contrary I simply can not ignore these facts in favour of blind optimism or the latest snippet from the club. [Post edited 27 Feb 2020 13:43]
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Love,Peace and Fook Chelski!
More like 20StoneOfHoop now.
Let's face it I'm not getting any thinner.
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| Warren Farm on 16:27 - Feb 27 with 2076 views | WestbourneR |
| Warren Farm on 10:48 - Feb 27 by Lblock |
Damn!
I live close to Heathrow and have had all the stuff rammed down my throat about the environment but I was bang in favour of this.
Economic suicide
As I'm selfish I was also hoping for a bit of work off the back of the expansion to see me through to retirement...... |
For 'all this environment stuff rammed down your throat' you could substitute 'made aware of the overwhelming scientific evidence'.
I do despair sometimes. This isn't snowflake versus gammon it's just science and common sense.
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