| Shareholders AGM 2024 02:36 - Nov 26 with 2918 views | Sandyman |
As received by shareholders yesterday...
ROCHDALE ASSOCIATION FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED
Directors: C Ogden (Co-Chairman), S Gauge (Co-Chairman), J Willoughby, A Saul, T Pockney, R Knight, M Knight
NOTICE OF 2024 ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING
Notice is hereby given that the 2024 Annual General Meeting of Rochdale Association Football Club Limited will be held as follows.
Type of meeting: The meeting will be held in person.
Date and time of meeting: Tuesday 10 December 2024, 5.30pm start
Place: The Ratcliffe Bars & Function Suite, Sandy Lane, Rochdale, OL11 5DR
The usual, more accessible 7-7:30 start has been done away with. Yes, our shares bought in more difficult times to save the club are pretty much worthless now, not that it matters if the club is safe, but at least give us a bit of respect for what we did and make the meeting easier to attend for shareholders who have day jobs.
I get the impression, given the cancellation of the shareholders forum by Mr Gauge and the early start that many shareholders are now considered an irrelevance to be walked over.
Noted. [Post edited 26 Nov 2:36]
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| Shareholders AGM 2024 on 06:29 - Nov 26 with 2819 views | pioneer |
As I said in a recent post as a shareholder for over 50 years I have never felt as detached from the club as I do now.
This could not happen without the acceptance of the Ogdens even if its being driven by SG. Not even an attempt to explain why this change has been made.
It really is their club now…the rest of us, including the trust, are just customers. |  | | |
| Shareholders AGM 2024 on 07:53 - Nov 26 with 2727 views | 442Dale |
Presumably the Trust, due to the amount of shares they hold and on behalf of the supporters they represent, will question the start time. |  |
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| Shareholders AGM 2024 on 08:05 - Nov 26 with 2715 views | D_Alien |
Also noted that in the article on Dale published in the 'i' paper, SG was described as "the long-standing" chairman. He's been here two minutes, in relative terms and it's clear there's a gaping chasm between him and the majority of shareholders
He should be basking in the glory of having kept the club afloat before the arrival of the Ogdens, but that's not how he'll be remembered
Tbh, i've barely glanced at the AGM email. He's now the main stumbling block between the club acheiving the vision the Ogdens have outlined, as a community-focused going concern and having full alignment with the fanbase, whether shareholders or not [Post edited 26 Nov 8:07]
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| Shareholders AGM 2024 on 08:15 - Nov 26 with 2683 views | judd |
It is disappointing that the meeting start time is not offset by the ability to attend via Teams. |  |
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| Shareholders AGM 2024 on 10:10 - Nov 26 with 2495 views | Rodingdale |
…and so it continues, and it will, as long as SG runs the day to day. | | | |
| Shareholders AGM 2024 on 10:52 - Nov 26 with 2399 views | dawlishdale |
This is quite rude from the BOD, and pays little heed to those of us who helped to place them in position and invested not inconsiderable sums of money ourselves.
Who is now acting Chair of the Trust and what is the point of continuing to have Board representation if things like this are allowed to happen? I doubt this would have gone unquestioned in the past.
Comes a close second to the "no reserved stickers on seats" fiasco. | | | |
| Shareholders AGM 2024 on 15:15 - Nov 26 with 2054 views | wozzrafc |
It is unfortunate that the board have changed the format of the AGM, although the change in the ownership of the club means we have a majority shareholder that makes the passing of any motions fairly straightforward. It is about perception.
I wonder if the Ogdens may not be able to commit to both an AGM and a Fans forum and feel the Fans forum lets them reach more fans? Personally if they want to keep the AGM for company proceedings then that’s fine,but either way it’s about communication. Again I wonder if the Ogdens are aware of how past AGMs have worked.
However the important thing now is the questions that need to be asked are asked. The top of that list is the role of the trust and confirming the commitment to a golden share. I don’t have any doubt that the Ogdens would go back on this but it still needs to be pursued as the trusts No1 objective.
I’m would assume the trust would be consulting members before the AGM. I think it’s important that questions are asked in the AOB section if it is not broached during the AGM. | | | |
| Shareholders AGM 2024 on 17:09 - Nov 26 with 1868 views | 49thseason |
Much ado about nothing. That there is so little to discuss compared to recent AGMs simply means the ship is out of choppy waters and the board are concentrating on other, bigger "stuff" . The day to day irritations are for discussion at a fans forum at an appropriate time, not the legally required AGM . . No news is good news.. the club is in safe hands. |  | | |
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| Shareholders AGM 2024 on 17:28 - Nov 26 with 1839 views | 442Dale |
| Shareholders AGM 2024 on 17:09 - Nov 26 by 49thseason |
Much ado about nothing. That there is so little to discuss compared to recent AGMs simply means the ship is out of choppy waters and the board are concentrating on other, bigger "stuff" . The day to day irritations are for discussion at a fans forum at an appropriate time, not the legally required AGM . . No news is good news.. the club is in safe hands. |
Sorry? Who determines whether there is “little to discuss”? AGMs have been held when the club was at its most successful whilst ensuring there was a feeling of inclusiveness for shareholders.
Missing the point. Again.
Anyway, there’s a fans forum seven weeks after the AGM (following on from the Trust stating “ A date for a Fans Forum will closely follow the AGM”)
https://rochdaleafc.co.uk/agm2024fansforum2025/
The point about questions being asked in AOB is noted and addressed as follows:
“ Shareholders will have the opportunity to ask the Board of Directors questions relating to the business of the AGM, this time under the ‘any other business’ section of the meeting.”
Surely “any other business” is exactly that? | |
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| Shareholders AGM 2024 on 17:52 - Nov 26 with 1755 views | Dale_4_Life |
Post Covid the working landscape has changed dramatically.
Why not 5.30pm? seems a decent time to me with plenty of notice. We are in the age of flexible working and employers having to consider reasonable requests for earlier finishes or time off.
If shareholders want to attend I don't see why a start time 2 hours earlier would prevent many from attending. A nice sensible finish time too with no rushed AOB. | | | |
| Shareholders AGM 2024 on 18:24 - Nov 26 with 1678 views | 442Dale |
| Shareholders AGM 2024 on 17:52 - Nov 26 by Dale_4_Life |
Post Covid the working landscape has changed dramatically.
Why not 5.30pm? seems a decent time to me with plenty of notice. We are in the age of flexible working and employers having to consider reasonable requests for earlier finishes or time off.
If shareholders want to attend I don't see why a start time 2 hours earlier would prevent many from attending. A nice sensible finish time too with no rushed AOB. |
Have you a list of companies who operate this flexible working with examples of Dale fans who can make the most of this?
I’m not saying there aren’t, but there are plenty who can’t. And if it was taking advantage of changes post-Covid, it would be available for shareholders to attend on Teams as Judd says.
There’s a lot of generalising going on here and personal preference. The focus should be on positively engaging as many fans/shareholders as possible. [Post edited 26 Nov 18:25]
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| Shareholders AGM 2024 on 19:32 - Nov 26 with 1517 views | nordenblue |
| Shareholders AGM 2024 on 17:52 - Nov 26 by Dale_4_Life |
Post Covid the working landscape has changed dramatically.
Why not 5.30pm? seems a decent time to me with plenty of notice. We are in the age of flexible working and employers having to consider reasonable requests for earlier finishes or time off.
If shareholders want to attend I don't see why a start time 2 hours earlier would prevent many from attending. A nice sensible finish time too with no rushed AOB. |
This "working landscape" you talk about is also reverting back to the more original office based for many roles as some of the larger companies have finally cottoned onto the fact a lot of staff do not do a great deal whilst "working" from home, as a result this whole hybrid type working week is getting binned, again this would be a problem if more folk are now in the office it would be a problem getting to Spotland for 17.30 for many folk, not to mention the traffic is horrendous at that hour of the day. [Post edited 26 Nov 20:24]
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| Shareholders AGM 2024 on 23:18 - Nov 26 with 1274 views | Sandyman |
| Shareholders AGM 2024 on 17:09 - Nov 26 by 49thseason |
Much ado about nothing. That there is so little to discuss compared to recent AGMs simply means the ship is out of choppy waters and the board are concentrating on other, bigger "stuff" . The day to day irritations are for discussion at a fans forum at an appropriate time, not the legally required AGM . . No news is good news.. the club is in safe hands. |
I do hope the "ship" is in safe hands. I think it is. It was for years, with some superb gentlemen at the helm. We let it sail on.
Post-Bottomley / A.Kilpatrick / Rawlinson et al, it is difficult to be fully trusting. We do need to remain attentive and questioning as shareholders and supporters as to the affairs of the club, be it at a fans forum, Trust meeting or AGM / EGM. We have to learn from what nearly happened here and did happen at bury. The consequences of doing otherwise could be serious. Never forget. Remain vigilant. | | | |
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