| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints 12:04 - Sep 7 with 2912 views | PatfromPoole |
1. Claus
2. Oriol
3. Yoshida
Sadly I do not see Sulemana joining this elite band. |  |
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| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 12:51 - Sep 7 with 2355 views | soulman64 |
ivan golac |  | | |
| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 13:00 - Sep 7 with 2349 views | Chesham_Saint |
Michael Svensson
Marion Pahars
Ken Monkou? |  |
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| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 13:01 - Sep 7 with 2349 views | PatfromPoole |
| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 12:51 - Sep 7 by soulman64 |
ivan golac |
I heard a tale once about Ivan Golac going down as if he was injured with Saints being a couple of goals down.
We scored a goal to get back in the game, and as if by magic Golac got up as if there was nothing wrong with him.
McMenemy wasn’t having any of it and took him off, even though he was fine.
Not sure how true this is.
I suppose Pahars should possibly be in the top 3….. | |
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| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 13:04 - Sep 7 with 2347 views | PatfromPoole |
| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 13:00 - Sep 7 by Chesham_Saint |
Michael Svensson
Marion Pahars
Ken Monkou? |
Of course, Super Ken.
Great shout. | |
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| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 13:06 - Sep 7 with 2345 views | PatfromPoole |
I have no wish to be the next Farage or Enoch Powell, but there is a fairly prominent continent which does not appear to have many candidates….. | |
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| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 14:36 - Sep 7 with 2297 views | saint901 |
Jose Fonte
Dusan Tadic
Oriol | | | |
| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 14:43 - Sep 7 with 2292 views | saints__fan__73 |
What does loyal actually mean?
Any player who is good enough to play for a club at a higher level than Saints will go.
The reason Claus never left is that a CL club never came in for him as he wasn't good enough.
The reason why Mane left was that he was good enough.
I'm not sure 'loyalty' ever comes in to it. |  |
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| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 16:38 - Sep 7 with 2245 views | Buggalugs |
| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 14:43 - Sep 7 by saints__fan__73 |
What does loyal actually mean?
Any player who is good enough to play for a club at a higher level than Saints will go.
The reason Claus never left is that a CL club never came in for him as he wasn't good enough.
The reason why Mane left was that he was good enough.
I'm not sure 'loyalty' ever comes in to it. |
People don't like to admit it, but this is pretty much spot on and is the same for nearly all clubs. There's always a bigger fish. |  |
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| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 16:46 - Sep 7 with 2236 views | SFC_Referee |
If your putting yoshida and Romeu up there then I’d say Fonte would definitely have to be higher than them |  |
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| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 17:34 - Sep 7 with 2217 views | franniesTache |
| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 16:46 - Sep 7 by SFC_Referee |
If your putting yoshida and Romeu up there then I’d say Fonte would definitely have to be higher than them |
Fonte was a bellend who kicked off when he wanted to leave, you can't really talk about loyalty if a player is intentionally making a nuisance of himself behind the scenes to get a move.
In all honesty most of our "loyal" players have really only been loyal because they've not been good enough to go anywhere else.
There's obviously a few exceptions, Niemi perhaps, but the likes of Claus weren't loyal, they just werent good enough to move on |  | | |
| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 17:39 - Sep 7 with 2212 views | felly1 |
The only loyalty that exists in Professional football are the fans.
Ideally really good foreign players would give us two seasons of service before moving on... | | | |
| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 21:50 - Sep 7 with 2139 views | SaintNick |
| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 14:43 - Sep 7 by saints__fan__73 |
What does loyal actually mean?
Any player who is good enough to play for a club at a higher level than Saints will go.
The reason Claus never left is that a CL club never came in for him as he wasn't good enough.
The reason why Mane left was that he was good enough.
I'm not sure 'loyalty' ever comes in to it. |
There is a difference between loyal and great service, Yoshida gave great service and was loyal, but in the list of great overseas players for this club in terms of quality of performance, he is way down the list.
In contrast Virgil Van Dijk gave great service, but was not very loyal, but he probably had more great games for Saints in 2 1/2 years than Yoshida had in 8 seasons and 154 Premier League games |  |
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| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 22:30 - Sep 7 with 2111 views | cocklebreath |
| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 17:34 - Sep 7 by franniesTache |
Fonte was a bellend who kicked off when he wanted to leave, you can't really talk about loyalty if a player is intentionally making a nuisance of himself behind the scenes to get a move.
In all honesty most of our "loyal" players have really only been loyal because they've not been good enough to go anywhere else.
There's obviously a few exceptions, Niemi perhaps, but the likes of Claus weren't loyal, they just werent good enough to move on |
How depressing. Surely there’s some foreigners out there who loved being a saint? |  |
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| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 22:33 - Sep 7 with 2109 views | SaintNick |
| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 17:34 - Sep 7 by franniesTache |
Fonte was a bellend who kicked off when he wanted to leave, you can't really talk about loyalty if a player is intentionally making a nuisance of himself behind the scenes to get a move.
In all honesty most of our "loyal" players have really only been loyal because they've not been good enough to go anywhere else.
There's obviously a few exceptions, Niemi perhaps, but the likes of Claus weren't loyal, they just werent good enough to move on |
You are right, November 2015 he signed a long term deal and professed his love for the club and desire to stay here for the ret of his career and then in 2016 he got his super agent and thought he was going to Manchester United | |
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| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 22:58 - Sep 7 with 2086 views | PatfromPoole |
| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 22:30 - Sep 7 by cocklebreath |
How depressing. Surely there’s some foreigners out there who loved being a saint? |
I dare say Steve de Ridder loved being a Saint.
He just wasn’t very good.
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| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 22:59 - Sep 7 with 2083 views | PatfromPoole |
Hang on a minute, Steve de Ridder actually helped us get promoted to the Prem.
Bloke’s a legend. | |
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| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 23:01 - Sep 7 with 2079 views | PatfromPoole |
Which I guess brings me to do Prado……
We have had more influential foreigners over the years than I thought…… | |
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| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 23:13 - Sep 7 with 2075 views | PatfromPoole |
I was going to put Schneiderlin in my original top 3, but didn’t as he did throw his toys out of the pram a bit towards the end.
However, he gave us the best 6 years of his career and he was utterly magnificent for the last 3 of them.
So I should probably revise my top 3 (which has now become a top 5)……
1. Claus
2. Schneiderlin
3. Oriol
4. Super Ken
5. Pahars | |
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| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 14:38 - Sep 8 with 1980 views | franniesTache |
| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 22:30 - Sep 7 by cocklebreath |
How depressing. Surely there’s some foreigners out there who loved being a saint? |
Don't think there's many footballers in general mush, you can probably count on one hand the players who actually loved Southampton, instead of it being a job for them. | | | |
| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 14:47 - Sep 8 with 1975 views | saints__fan__73 |
| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 21:50 - Sep 7 by SaintNick |
There is a difference between loyal and great service, Yoshida gave great service and was loyal, but in the list of great overseas players for this club in terms of quality of performance, he is way down the list.
In contrast Virgil Van Dijk gave great service, but was not very loyal, but he probably had more great games for Saints in 2 1/2 years than Yoshida had in 8 seasons and 154 Premier League games |
Indeed. But what is loyalty?
No player will ever be loyal as it's just a job to them.
As soon as a better job comes up every player will be off.
The ones who stay and we are saying are 'loyal' are just the ones not good enough to do better than us.
I'm sure if Claus had been coveted by Man Utd in the 90s he would have been off as quickly as Mane left. | |
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| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 17:09 - Sep 8 with 1943 views | cocklebreath |
Niemi has to be up there | |
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| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 17:09 - Sep 8 with 1942 views | cocklebreath |
And he had a good song as did Our Claus | |
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| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 17:16 - Sep 8 with 1940 views | Berber |
| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 14:43 - Sep 7 by saints__fan__73 |
What does loyal actually mean?
Any player who is good enough to play for a club at a higher level than Saints will go.
The reason Claus never left is that a CL club never came in for him as he wasn't good enough.
The reason why Mane left was that he was good enough.
I'm not sure 'loyalty' ever comes in to it. |
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| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 17:20 - Sep 8 with 1935 views | franniesTache |
| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 17:09 - Sep 8 by cocklebreath |
And he had a good song as did Our Claus |
took us a long bloody time to get Our Claus going though, remember coming up with it playing football on portswood rec then spending a good few seasons with people staring at us blankly in the archers trying to get it going | | | |
| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 17:24 - Sep 8 with 1932 views | cocklebreath |
| Top 3 players from overseas who gave great service and were loyal to Saints on 17:20 - Sep 8 by franniesTache |
took us a long bloody time to get Our Claus going though, remember coming up with it playing football on portswood rec then spending a good few seasons with people staring at us blankly in the archers trying to get it going |
By the end of his time we changed it to “our Claus he’s got 20 B&H” in honour of his legendary smoking habit | |
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