| Betrayed by Huw and board again 13:52 - Aug 9 with 16505 views | magicdaps10 |
The end is nigh.
These yanks will have the club on the market soon.
I just hope Potter and what he has left can pull together this season. |  |
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| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 13:54 - Aug 9 with 6904 views | Loyal |
Potter has continually reinforced the loan market is an option, but fck kniws why we would leave it until the end of the month. |  |
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| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 13:54 - Aug 9 with 6888 views | HugeEnkins |
We already knew all the big shots were going to leave. The lack of signings is depressing but then why fork out for players when you can loan then and pocket the transfer cash. |  | | |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 13:56 - Aug 9 with 6837 views | Landore_Jack |
I wouldn't be surprised if Potter and Reid walked away. What a mess! |  |
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| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:05 - Aug 9 with 6711 views | Shaky |
Must say I find the savage culling of the old squad that seems to be in progress highly encouraging for the long term future of the club.
I really didn't think Jenkins had the management balls to take the butchers knife to the organisation like he appears to be doing, especially given what must have been the bitter disappointment over the sale prices so far agreed.
Easy to fall into depression and lethargy under those circumstances but he appears to be powering though with a plan. I am actually more than a little impressed. |  |
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| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:08 - Aug 9 with 6675 views | AngelRangelQS |
So the players we all expected to leave are leaving...
Hopefully we can get a couple in today and one or two on loan in the next couple of weeks |  | | |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:10 - Aug 9 with 6614 views | swan65split |
I should imagine its all about the "investors" not putting any money into the investment, parachute payments???? yes enough said.
admittedly most that have gone weren't good enough, but we may be bordering on the edge with what i see atm coming in, i just hope Potter is the man, as its proved HJ wasn't. |  | | |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:20 - Aug 9 with 6498 views | longlostjack |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 13:54 - Aug 9 by HugeEnkins |
We already knew all the big shots were going to leave. The lack of signings is depressing but then why fork out for players when you can loan then and pocket the transfer cash. |
So how much has been raised by player sales now? Add that to the parachute payment for this season less expenditure to date. What does that leave? We’ve clearly reduced the wage bill massively. Fecking massaging the figures for the sales prospectus that’s what the batards are doing. |  |
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| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:21 - Aug 9 with 6475 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:08 - Aug 9 by AngelRangelQS |
So the players we all expected to leave are leaving...
Hopefully we can get a couple in today and one or two on loan in the next couple of weeks |
We have a game on Saturday. |  | | |
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| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:23 - Aug 9 with 6411 views | LeonWasGod |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:21 - Aug 9 by londonlisa2001 |
We have a game on Saturday. |
Pft. A minor technicality. Dyer can leap like a salmon - he'll be fine at centre half. |  | | |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:27 - Aug 9 with 6357 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:05 - Aug 9 by Shaky |
Must say I find the savage culling of the old squad that seems to be in progress highly encouraging for the long term future of the club.
I really didn't think Jenkins had the management balls to take the butchers knife to the organisation like he appears to be doing, especially given what must have been the bitter disappointment over the sale prices so far agreed.
Easy to fall into depression and lethargy under those circumstances but he appears to be powering though with a plan. I am actually more than a little impressed. |
Restructuring has two sides to it.
Unless we see another side there’s nothing to find impressive.
Anyone can cut costs to be frank. Easiest thing in the world to sell or loan out players for small enough sums to get rid of them.
Even Petty managed to do that. | | | |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:28 - Aug 9 with 6325 views | AngelRangelQS |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:21 - Aug 9 by londonlisa2001 |
We have a game on Saturday. |
Thanks for pointing out the obvious but in the grand scheme of things it’s an irrelevance. We are at the moment one starting position down.
Or is one game on Saturday more important than getting the right squad in place? | | | |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:41 - Aug 9 with 6245 views | STID2017 |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:28 - Aug 9 by AngelRangelQS |
Thanks for pointing out the obvious but in the grand scheme of things it’s an irrelevance. We are at the moment one starting position down.
Or is one game on Saturday more important than getting the right squad in place? |
At this moment which one of the starting 11 has gone ? |  |
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| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:52 - Aug 9 with 6132 views | Shaky |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:27 - Aug 9 by londonlisa2001 |
Restructuring has two sides to it.
Unless we see another side there’s nothing to find impressive.
Anyone can cut costs to be frank. Easiest thing in the world to sell or loan out players for small enough sums to get rid of them.
Even Petty managed to do that. |
Anyone can cut costs on paper.
Sitting at a desk on the opposite side of those costs and actually sacking them face to face and telling them they are no longer wanted is a completely different matter.
And doing that again and again for a sustained period under pressure takes a special type of individual; the callous management bastard.
I know people who can do that and it is standard practice for big buy-out type investors to maintain contact lists of people who can be parachuted in to do that sort of thing, but I certainly couldn't myself. And it is a reflection of my relatively positive opinion of you that I don't for a second believe you could either. | |
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| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:54 - Aug 9 with 6090 views | Tom1912 |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:52 - Aug 9 by Shaky |
Anyone can cut costs on paper.
Sitting at a desk on the opposite side of those costs and actually sacking them face to face and telling them they are no longer wanted is a completely different matter.
And doing that again and again for a sustained period under pressure takes a special type of individual; the callous management bastard.
I know people who can do that and it is standard practice for big buy-out type investors to maintain contact lists of people who can be parachuted in to do that sort of thing, but I certainly couldn't myself. And it is a reflection of my relatively positive opinion of you that I don't for a second believe you could either. |
We're getting rid of people who don't want to be here mun.
They're probably going to him to say they want out. | | | |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:56 - Aug 9 with 6051 views | Shaky |
. . .for sure Steve Kaplan knows many, many individuals who fit that profile. And without knowing what is going on in the club it is quite possible he has parachuted his own guy in there to wield the knife. | |
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| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:57 - Aug 9 with 6006 views | AngelRangelQS |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:41 - Aug 9 by STID2017 |
At this moment which one of the starting 11 has gone ? |
Well Billy Reid has all but confirmed Fernandez is off so him, basically | | | |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:58 - Aug 9 with 6000 views | Shaky |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:54 - Aug 9 by Tom1912 |
We're getting rid of people who don't want to be here mun.
They're probably going to him to say they want out. |
Of course there is an element of that.
Jenkins is presiding over the dismemberment of his life's work. As i said; management balls. | |
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| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:58 - Aug 9 with 5993 views | MrSwerve |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:21 - Aug 9 by londonlisa2001 |
We have a game on Saturday. |
It's incredible how many are talking about this loan window and ignoring the fact that we have a game on Saturday to perform in. All games have 3 points up for grabs so it is just as important as the final game of the season. We can't just write off the PNE game.
We can't afford to spend the next two games with VDH as our only CB with any experience worth noting. |  |
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| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 15:01 - Aug 9 with 5927 views | E20Jack |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:28 - Aug 9 by AngelRangelQS |
Thanks for pointing out the obvious but in the grand scheme of things it’s an irrelevance. We are at the moment one starting position down.
Or is one game on Saturday more important than getting the right squad in place? |
Correct, great chance for Joe Rodon to step up. |  |
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| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 15:16 - Aug 9 with 5832 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 14:52 - Aug 9 by Shaky |
Anyone can cut costs on paper.
Sitting at a desk on the opposite side of those costs and actually sacking them face to face and telling them they are no longer wanted is a completely different matter.
And doing that again and again for a sustained period under pressure takes a special type of individual; the callous management bastard.
I know people who can do that and it is standard practice for big buy-out type investors to maintain contact lists of people who can be parachuted in to do that sort of thing, but I certainly couldn't myself. And it is a reflection of my relatively positive opinion of you that I don't for a second believe you could either. |
That’s not what’s happening though.
We aren’t sacking people. We are agreeing to let them go out on loan or sale to other clubs when the6 want to leave.
Clubs that are better placed than we are.
Doesn’t need a callous bastard to do that. The callous bastard would say stay and play unless we get the right deal and the right replacement and I don’t care if you sulk. | | | |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 16:03 - Aug 9 with 5694 views | Shaky |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 15:16 - Aug 9 by londonlisa2001 |
That’s not what’s happening though.
We aren’t sacking people. We are agreeing to let them go out on loan or sale to other clubs when the6 want to leave.
Clubs that are better placed than we are.
Doesn’t need a callous bastard to do that. The callous bastard would say stay and play unless we get the right deal and the right replacement and I don’t care if you sulk. |
I was speaking more in general terms about the nature of cost cutting.
And I still think Jenkins or whoever is at the helm deserves considerable credit for keeping their cool and processing the number of player moves that are going down.
Sangfroid is always an admirable quality, and somebody has undoubtedly done the sums and figured out where the salary budget needs to be and is ruthlessly going for it.
Much better to have some on-field uncertainty in the near term than an elevated risk of foreclosure in the medium term. | |
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| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 16:05 - Aug 9 with 5641 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 16:03 - Aug 9 by Shaky |
I was speaking more in general terms about the nature of cost cutting.
And I still think Jenkins or whoever is at the helm deserves considerable credit for keeping their cool and processing the number of player moves that are going down.
Sangfroid is always an admirable quality, and somebody has undoubtedly done the sums and figured out where the salary budget needs to be and is ruthlessly going for it.
Much better to have some on-field uncertainty in the near term than an elevated risk of foreclosure in the medium term. |
No one at the club deserves any credit Shaky. Not talking Potter etc. | | | |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 16:09 - Aug 9 with 5562 views | Ace_Jack |
Asset stripping what's left before they can f**k off by the looks of it. At least we know where the parachute payments will be going. |  | | |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 16:10 - Aug 9 with 5550 views | Shaky |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 16:05 - Aug 9 by londonlisa2001 |
No one at the club deserves any credit Shaky. Not talking Potter etc. |
I'll grant you expectation were low.
But when i set out what was needed in terms of slashing costs at the end of last season I expected them to fail. Miserably.
Seems to me they may actually be on course to succeed in getting cash-flow within striking distance of neutral, and that is a significant achievement. | |
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| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 16:12 - Aug 9 with 5500 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Betrayed by Huw and board again on 16:10 - Aug 9 by Shaky |
I'll grant you expectation were low.
But when i set out what was needed in terms of slashing costs at the end of last season I expected them to fail. Miserably.
Seems to me they may actually be on course to succeed in getting cash-flow within striking distance of neutral, and that is a significant achievement. |
We don’t have a team.
Which is, obviously, just a tiny issue.
As I said, any fool can slash costs while decimating the club. | | | |
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