| Never moan about Dale again 20:54 - Sep 1 with 14193 views | Dale23years |
Watching England live is 100 times worst than on tv. It's dogshite [Post edited 1 Sep 2017 20:57]
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| Never moan about Dale again on 21:10 - Sep 1 with 8484 views | BartRowou |
England Cricket Team > England Football Team every single time. |  |
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| Never moan about Dale again on 21:15 - Sep 1 with 8467 views | Dale23years |
| Never moan about Dale again on 21:10 - Sep 1 by BartRowou |
England Cricket Team > England Football Team every single time. |
Watching players who are are worth 50 million pound and they can't even pass or control a ball. Malta is a lovely country, Very friendly and quite cheap [Post edited 1 Sep 2017 21:16]
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| Never moan about Dale again on 21:18 - Sep 1 with 8453 views | R11BFC |
My son's over there watching it and i've just sent him a text saying:
We're shit and we know we are...!
Might be singing that at Gigg tomorrow too!!! |  |
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| Never moan about Dale again on 22:14 - Sep 1 with 8353 views | Clivert |
| Never moan about Dale again on 21:10 - Sep 1 by BartRowou |
England Cricket Team > England Football Team every single time. |
Yeah coz the cricketers were brilliant earlier this week and they always perform to such a higher standard that the footballers do at their respective World Cup! [Post edited 1 Sep 2017 22:26]
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| Never moan about Dale again on 22:35 - Sep 1 with 8297 views | TVOS1907 |
| Never moan about Dale again on 22:14 - Sep 1 by Clivert |
Yeah coz the cricketers were brilliant earlier this week and they always perform to such a higher standard that the footballers do at their respective World Cup! [Post edited 1 Sep 2017 22:26]
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That's a bit harsh on the Windies performance.
I think part of Bart's point is that the cricketers aren't hyped-up as much as the footballers, nor do they command the same salaries. They also seem to enjoy what they are doing that bit more. |  |
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| Never moan about Dale again on 23:12 - Sep 1 with 8238 views | Clivert |
| Never moan about Dale again on 22:35 - Sep 1 by TVOS1907 |
That's a bit harsh on the Windies performance.
I think part of Bart's point is that the cricketers aren't hyped-up as much as the footballers, nor do they command the same salaries. They also seem to enjoy what they are doing that bit more. |
Whilst it was an enthralling test match England batted woefully for one innings and bowled poorly for the second innings against a team that are ranked as one of the lowest test playing nations in the world.
'Top' cricketers are still paid a very decent wage though and probably not earning the money that they do for going out of The World Cup at the group stage like we do every 4 years!
Football is on a different level these days and the bubble has to burst some day soon but you can't blame any professional footballer for milking it while they can, it wasn't that long ago that we were all paying to watch George Donnelly! | | | |
| Never moan about Dale again on 23:24 - Sep 1 with 8206 views | TVOS1907 |
| Never moan about Dale again on 23:12 - Sep 1 by Clivert |
Whilst it was an enthralling test match England batted woefully for one innings and bowled poorly for the second innings against a team that are ranked as one of the lowest test playing nations in the world.
'Top' cricketers are still paid a very decent wage though and probably not earning the money that they do for going out of The World Cup at the group stage like we do every 4 years!
Football is on a different level these days and the bubble has to burst some day soon but you can't blame any professional footballer for milking it while they can, it wasn't that long ago that we were all paying to watch George Donnelly! |
Didn't you see his goal at Accrington? | |
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| Never moan about Dale again on 23:34 - Sep 1 with 8198 views | Clivert |
| Never moan about Dale again on 23:24 - Sep 1 by TVOS1907 |
Didn't you see his goal at Accrington? |
Yes! .........and when he scored at Newport I thought that his goal was going to crown us champions! [Post edited 1 Sep 2017 23:35]
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| Never moan about Dale again on 01:45 - Sep 2 with 8091 views | Daley_Lama |
Plus marks:
Harry Kane is my new Alan Shearer, awesome striker.
Rashford might be some player some day
Negatives:
The Ox. I don't get why Arsenal tried to keep him, or Liverpool signed him. Poor mans Theo Walcott
Stirling: Shame as i do rate him, but was a bit pooh tonight |  |
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| Never moan about Dale again on 06:33 - Sep 2 with 8019 views | deeplishblue |
Which of last night's England team would have got in the 1990 world cup semi final starting 11 ?
Shilton
Pearce
Walker
Butcher
Parker
M Wright
Waddle
Gascoigne
Beardsley
Lineker
Platt [Post edited 2 Sep 2017 6:34]
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| Never moan about Dale again on 07:26 - Sep 2 with 7979 views | D_Alien |
If we can take from this, that D23y is "never going to moan about Dale again" then it's the greatest England performance in a generation |  |
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| Never moan about Dale again on 08:09 - Sep 2 with 7923 views | BartRowou |
| Never moan about Dale again on 22:14 - Sep 1 by Clivert |
Yeah coz the cricketers were brilliant earlier this week and they always perform to such a higher standard that the footballers do at their respective World Cup! [Post edited 1 Sep 2017 22:26]
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As TVOS says, it's not just based on this week. It's years and years of boring friendlies/qualifiers that ultimately lead to nothing. Then you get the Premier League trying to force a League 3 on us as though it's our fault. I could go on but it's all been said before. | |
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| Never moan about Dale again on 09:04 - Sep 2 with 7843 views | Clivert |
| Never moan about Dale again on 08:09 - Sep 2 by BartRowou |
As TVOS says, it's not just based on this week. It's years and years of boring friendlies/qualifiers that ultimately lead to nothing. Then you get the Premier League trying to force a League 3 on us as though it's our fault. I could go on but it's all been said before. |
I think we can all agree that England have been poor for years now and I haven't see any progress under Southgate's stewardship (that was his first away win last night!). We're already looking at a probable group stage exit in Russia next summer (if we qualify) because that is where we are right now.
It was probably a bad week to say what a good example the England cricket team are though!?! | | | |
| Never moan about Dale again on 10:03 - Sep 2 with 7753 views | AtThePeake |
| Never moan about Dale again on 09:04 - Sep 2 by Clivert |
I think we can all agree that England have been poor for years now and I haven't see any progress under Southgate's stewardship (that was his first away win last night!). We're already looking at a probable group stage exit in Russia next summer (if we qualify) because that is where we are right now.
It was probably a bad week to say what a good example the England cricket team are though!?! |
With some of the players we have in our squad we should definitely not be accepting that we should be getting knocked out in the group stages of a World Cup unless we get a particularly tough group like we did in 2010.
Dele Alli - PFA Young Player of the Year twice already, Harry Kane - Premier League top goalscorer twice already. Raheem Sterling - £50m man rated highly enough by Pep Guardiola to be starting in his star-studded Man City side. Gary Cahill - two time Premier League winner. Admittedly our squad isn't as strong as it has been in years gone by, but it will certainly be in the top 16 at the World Cup next summer. Central midfield is the problem area of course, but encouragingly there are a few young English CMs who could break through in the next couple of years (Tom Davies, Harry Winks, Ruben Loftus-Cheek).
It's the system that reeks. Gareth Southgate getting given the job on the back of a poor spell in charge of Boro where he led them to relegation and a very, very average spell in charge of the Under 21s is just an absolute joke. The FA show no ambition and were just happy to instil a yes man into the job who continues with the uninspiring tactics and goes onto pick players that also fit into the little system like Nathaniel Chalobah - who has a total of 17 Premier League appearances to his name but epitomised Southgate's dour reign in the charge of the U21s. |  |
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| Never moan about Dale again on 10:21 - Sep 2 with 7720 views | D_Alien |
| Never moan about Dale again on 10:03 - Sep 2 by AtThePeake |
With some of the players we have in our squad we should definitely not be accepting that we should be getting knocked out in the group stages of a World Cup unless we get a particularly tough group like we did in 2010.
Dele Alli - PFA Young Player of the Year twice already, Harry Kane - Premier League top goalscorer twice already. Raheem Sterling - £50m man rated highly enough by Pep Guardiola to be starting in his star-studded Man City side. Gary Cahill - two time Premier League winner. Admittedly our squad isn't as strong as it has been in years gone by, but it will certainly be in the top 16 at the World Cup next summer. Central midfield is the problem area of course, but encouragingly there are a few young English CMs who could break through in the next couple of years (Tom Davies, Harry Winks, Ruben Loftus-Cheek).
It's the system that reeks. Gareth Southgate getting given the job on the back of a poor spell in charge of Boro where he led them to relegation and a very, very average spell in charge of the Under 21s is just an absolute joke. The FA show no ambition and were just happy to instil a yes man into the job who continues with the uninspiring tactics and goes onto pick players that also fit into the little system like Nathaniel Chalobah - who has a total of 17 Premier League appearances to his name but epitomised Southgate's dour reign in the charge of the U21s. |
Fair points, but Southgate doesn't appear to be doing any worse than some of his more 'ambitious' predecessors such as Sven Goran Ericson or Fabio Capello
I'm looking for the players who perform brilliantly for their clubs - against the best foreign stars in the premier league - to do the same at international level, within a simple system they understand. That'll take time, but I can see promising signs, which may or may not come to anything in the heat of a finals. But I'll give Southgate the benefit of the doubt, for now | |
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| Never moan about Dale again on 10:35 - Sep 2 with 7685 views | ColDale |
I always think that for all the arrogance of English football, there's a real inferiority complex when it comes to international football as if we're playing a game that is completely alien to us. Rather than obsessing about what works in Belgium or in Barcelona, we need to focus on what is great and good in English football and take that onto the world stage. At the very, very least it would allow our players to play something they are comfortable with. Like has been said, it's been about 20 years now that England have played some tame tepid brand of football and we keep making the same mistake of looking in different places for the answer. |  | | |
| Never moan about Dale again on 11:03 - Sep 2 with 7652 views | Dale23years |
| Never moan about Dale again on 10:35 - Sep 2 by ColDale |
I always think that for all the arrogance of English football, there's a real inferiority complex when it comes to international football as if we're playing a game that is completely alien to us. Rather than obsessing about what works in Belgium or in Barcelona, we need to focus on what is great and good in English football and take that onto the world stage. At the very, very least it would allow our players to play something they are comfortable with. Like has been said, it's been about 20 years now that England have played some tame tepid brand of football and we keep making the same mistake of looking in different places for the answer. |
The off the ball movement last night was shocking, talking to a group of Huddersfield last night who been watching England for 20+ years they disagreed with me saying the moment was a lot better then under previous managers. | |
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| Never moan about Dale again on 11:46 - Sep 2 with 7597 views | Clivert |
| Never moan about Dale again on 10:03 - Sep 2 by AtThePeake |
With some of the players we have in our squad we should definitely not be accepting that we should be getting knocked out in the group stages of a World Cup unless we get a particularly tough group like we did in 2010.
Dele Alli - PFA Young Player of the Year twice already, Harry Kane - Premier League top goalscorer twice already. Raheem Sterling - £50m man rated highly enough by Pep Guardiola to be starting in his star-studded Man City side. Gary Cahill - two time Premier League winner. Admittedly our squad isn't as strong as it has been in years gone by, but it will certainly be in the top 16 at the World Cup next summer. Central midfield is the problem area of course, but encouragingly there are a few young English CMs who could break through in the next couple of years (Tom Davies, Harry Winks, Ruben Loftus-Cheek).
It's the system that reeks. Gareth Southgate getting given the job on the back of a poor spell in charge of Boro where he led them to relegation and a very, very average spell in charge of the Under 21s is just an absolute joke. The FA show no ambition and were just happy to instil a yes man into the job who continues with the uninspiring tactics and goes onto pick players that also fit into the little system like Nathaniel Chalobah - who has a total of 17 Premier League appearances to his name but epitomised Southgate's dour reign in the charge of the U21s. |
I agree that with the talent you've just mentioned we should be expecting to progress but realistically we aren't going to be seeded, this will mean that we'll draw at least one top ranked nation who we are likely to not beat, so we're almost playing for second place in the group right from the start of the tournament. | | | |
| Never moan about Dale again on 12:12 - Sep 2 with 7534 views | TVOS1907 |
| Never moan about Dale again on 11:46 - Sep 2 by Clivert |
I agree that with the talent you've just mentioned we should be expecting to progress but realistically we aren't going to be seeded, this will mean that we'll draw at least one top ranked nation who we are likely to not beat, so we're almost playing for second place in the group right from the start of the tournament. |
That would be an improvement on last time! | |
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| Never moan about Dale again on 19:53 - Sep 4 with 7271 views | SuddenLad |
Here we go again. Shocking defending and Rashford trying to nutmeg someone near the edge of his own penalty area. Brainless moron. Well taken goal by Slovakia but way too easy. |  |
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| Never moan about Dale again on 20:16 - Sep 4 with 7223 views | Dale23years |
| Never moan about Dale again on 19:53 - Sep 4 by SuddenLad |
Here we go again. Shocking defending and Rashford trying to nutmeg someone near the edge of his own penalty area. Brainless moron. Well taken goal by Slovakia but way too easy. |
The Ox is so poor. Shouldn't be anywhere near England squad [Post edited 4 Sep 2017 20:17]
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| Never moan about Dale again on 20:18 - Sep 4 with 7204 views | Daley_Lama |
| Never moan about Dale again on 20:16 - Sep 4 by Dale23years |
The Ox is so poor. Shouldn't be anywhere near England squad [Post edited 4 Sep 2017 20:17]
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Amen to that.
Never seen what people see in him.*
*here comes a hat-trick | |
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| Never moan about Dale again on 20:21 - Sep 4 with 7196 views | Dale23years |
| Never moan about Dale again on 20:18 - Sep 4 by Daley_Lama |
Amen to that.
Never seen what people see in him.*
*here comes a hat-trick |
It's basically same players from 2016 euros squad. They are not good enough neither is the yes manager | |
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| Never moan about Dale again on 20:38 - Sep 4 with 7146 views | AtThePeake |
| Never moan about Dale again on 20:21 - Sep 4 by Dale23years |
It's basically same players from 2016 euros squad. They are not good enough neither is the yes manager |
Who do you suggest we pick instead? | |
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