| The official Garry's got the job debate thread 13:53 - May 7 with 15143 views | Darran |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 23:19 - May 7 with 1136 views | Chief |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 23:15 - May 7 by raynor94 |
What on earth are you babbling on about you said he "has no contacts " I said wait and see, you are losing me now |
you told me to not to judge him until hes been there for a while and now you told me to wait to see who he brings in before passing judgement on whether he has contacts or not.
apart from congratulating Garry on really selling himself to the board what the hell are we meant to discuss on these threads then!? |  |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 23:24 - May 7 with 1122 views | raynor94 |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 23:19 - May 7 by Chief |
you told me to not to judge him until hes been there for a while and now you told me to wait to see who he brings in before passing judgement on whether he has contacts or not.
apart from congratulating Garry on really selling himself to the board what the hell are we meant to discuss on these threads then!? |
Honestly have you been drinking? your quote he has no contacts and I said wait and see, discuss whatever but don't right him off until he has is own team put together |  |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 23:28 - May 7 with 1112 views | Chief |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 23:24 - May 7 by raynor94 |
Honestly have you been drinking? your quote he has no contacts and I said wait and see, discuss whatever but don't right him off until he has is own team put together |
where did I quote Monk had no contacts?
hes been a professional footballer for many years and played under many different managers, whether these can or will help, in not convinced.
you say don't write him off, so basically saying we cant post any negative predictions? | |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 23:36 - May 7 with 1089 views | raynor94 |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 23:19 - May 7 by Chief |
you told me to not to judge him until hes been there for a while and now you told me to wait to see who he brings in before passing judgement on whether he has contacts or not.
apart from congratulating Garry on really selling himself to the board what the hell are we meant to discuss on these threads then!? |
Your post chief, come on tell me what you have been drinking | |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 23:40 - May 7 with 1085 views | raynor94 |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 21:48 - May 7 by Chief |
I don't buy this stability argument. the fact that we have changed managers a lot over the years I believe has helped us evolve and use a wide range of contacts to full affect.
Unfortunately I cannot see Monk using any contacts he may have (if he has any) or altering our play for the better.
I hope i'm wrong |
Sorry chief this was the quote I meant | |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 23:42 - May 7 with 1081 views | Chief |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 23:36 - May 7 by raynor94 |
Your post chief, come on tell me what you have been drinking |
right so instead of constructing reasonable debate against the points I have made (you could easily have cooked something up about him knowing Rodgers/Martinez well), which shouldn't be out of place on this thread (look at the thread title), you are now asking me questions which have nothing to do with the content of thread.
Sure fire sign to see that the person who took you to task has got nothing left in the tank and thrown the towel in.
Nos dda Raynor94 | |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 23:42 - May 7 with 1078 views | jackrabbit |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 23:36 - May 7 by raynor94 |
Your post chief, come on tell me what you have been drinking |
I've made my feelings about the Monk appointment plain before now - the wrong man at the wrong time. Comparisons with Martinez building a team in the lower leagues are fatuous - the Premier League is no place for rookie managers. Ask Cardiff ...and now Norwich.
However now that the deed is done, I will wish him well. His success is inextricably linked with the success of the Swans, so obviously only an idiot, or rival fan would want him to fail. In a years time I want to look back and think 'were we really concerned that Garry wouldn't cut it? How silly was that?' We'll see. |  | | |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 23:58 - May 7 with 1061 views | raynor94 |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 23:42 - May 7 by jackrabbit |
I've made my feelings about the Monk appointment plain before now - the wrong man at the wrong time. Comparisons with Martinez building a team in the lower leagues are fatuous - the Premier League is no place for rookie managers. Ask Cardiff ...and now Norwich.
However now that the deed is done, I will wish him well. His success is inextricably linked with the success of the Swans, so obviously only an idiot, or rival fan would want him to fail. In a years time I want to look back and think 'were we really concerned that Garry wouldn't cut it? How silly was that?' We'll see. |
So you want it both ways no problem  | |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 01:39 - May 8 with 1026 views | ymaohyd |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 17:40 - May 7 by C_jack |
So why are we (most likely) the first ever Premier League club, in over 20 years to appoint a complete novice permanently? Surely using your argument that experience counts for nothing, other clubs would have worked out this genius plan a fair while ago.
There are no guarantees, but there are better guarantees than others. Why did Palace hire Tony Pulis instead of giving the job to Danny Gabbidon?
So we don't hire a manager that's best fit to manage the club. We hire a manager that is the best fit for the board, and gives them less hassle. Seriously backwards approach. |
I agree, this board are a bunch of wan*kers, I've been to the awards night tonight and they are a bunch of tossers..just look at their record.
Martinez, Rodgers, Jackett...look at their records this season?
Mate, how long have you followed the Swans? 10 years!? |  |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 06:15 - May 8 with 994 views | Dr_Winston |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 22:34 - May 7 by raynor94 |
Reading this thread there are some obviously gagging to say I told you so, read it |
Let's be honest here, it ain't just those questioning Monk's appointment who fall under that category. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 07:11 - May 8 with 954 views | Phil_S |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 17:22 - May 7 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
I'm conflicted. On the one hand I'm looking forward to being proven right when he is sacked / resigns / leaves with mutual consent next season, on the other hand he is going to leave us in a precarious position when he leaves and I very much would like to stay in this league. Hmm. |
And proof positive that people want him to fail.
Whatever people's belief is in terms of whether they think the appointment is right or not a comment of "I'm looking forward to be proved right" is one that no proper Swans fan would make. End of story |  | | |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 07:56 - May 8 with 926 views | Chief |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 07:11 - May 8 by Phil_S |
And proof positive that people want him to fail.
Whatever people's belief is in terms of whether they think the appointment is right or not a comment of "I'm looking forward to be proved right" is one that no proper Swans fan would make. End of story |
No, this is proof that 1 limelight seeking individual wants him to fail. | |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 08:58 - May 8 with 895 views | Phil_S |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 07:56 - May 8 by Chief |
No, this is proof that 1 limelight seeking individual wants him to fail. |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 09:01 - May 8 with 893 views | WarwickHunt |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 08:58 - May 8 by Phil_S |
GPWM |
Phil - Perchie's hacked your account. |  | | |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 09:10 - May 8 with 881 views | Phil_S |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 09:01 - May 8 by WarwickHunt |
Phil - Perchie's hacked your account. |
So for some reason my lovely iphone changes a typed 'Good point well made' response and changes it to GPWM
Bloody apple. Bloody Americans.
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 09:22 - May 8 with 857 views | Uxbridge |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 06:15 - May 8 by Dr_Winston |
Let's be honest here, it ain't just those questioning Monk's appointment who fall under that category. |
Heh. True. In fact a few people have said to me they're looking forward to being proven right if/when he's a success.
I'm bit less pessimistic in human nature than Clasie though. Surely we all want the Swans to do well, and if they do well then Monk is doing well too. Everyone's happy. Sure some might take some solace from being proven right if their prediction is proven true but everyone will be happier if he's doing well. |  |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 09:31 - May 8 with 842 views | Drizzy |
People are looking forward to the idea of being proven right when the manager of their football club is successful? How shocking! [Post edited 8 May 2014 11:47]
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 10:15 - May 8 with 817 views | johnlangy |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 21:13 - May 7 by londonlisa2001 |
This thread has finally moved me to post for the first time in many years. A number of people have commented that they could tell that Roberto, Rodgers or Laudrup were going to be a success after 10 games and that they can tell that Garry Monk won't be after his games in charge. (I'm ignoring here some spectacular reworking of the comments that were made after certainly the first two of these appointments).
They seem to be deliberately missing one crucial difference - Roberto, Rodgers etc had a preseason to assess the squad, select the players that they wanted to add to that squad and implement the training style and tactics that they wanted without the interruption of crucial games once or twice a week. Garry Monk has not yet had this opportunity.
He took over a squad that was already in place - no additions were possible, and any changing of training, tactics etc have been restricted to an extent by the games to be played and the need for survival points.
No one can know what the team or playing style will look like until he has had a chance to choose his own players and work with the squad through a preseason. It's an easy criticism to say that the Board have chosen a cheap option, or should have looked to 'insert name of previously famous player' instead but if the appointment does work, and no one can say at this stage whether it will or not, then it could bring a much needed few years of stability to the club.
It may prove to be a mistake, in which case we can be sure that action would be taken, but some of the vitriol being spouted here is utterly without foundation. Surely the one thing that the club deserves is support - that doesn't mean that concern shouldn't be expressed, but comments such as 'we are definitely going to go down' or 'I can't wait to be proved right' are a disgrace. |
VERY well said. The utter lack of thought and logic in some of the comments on this thread is incredible.
Most of us have some reservations about GM, some would have reservations whoever was appointed. |  | | |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 10:29 - May 8 with 807 views | jackrabbit |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 23:58 - May 7 by raynor94 |
So you want it both ways no problem |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 11:04 - May 8 with 775 views | C_jack |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 01:39 - May 8 by ymaohyd |
I agree, this board are a bunch of wan*kers, I've been to the awards night tonight and they are a bunch of tossers..just look at their record.
Martinez, Rodgers, Jackett...look at their records this season?
Mate, how long have you followed the Swans? 10 years!? |
I don't know who your agreeing that with, certainly not me. |  |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 11:23 - May 8 with 760 views | JackSomething |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 21:57 - May 7 by lifelong |
The decision has now been made and , as many posters have stated, we must get behind Garry and his staff and give them our full support.
I think the key for the following season is who stays and who leaves in the summer, if we can keep our main players and make a few quality additions then Garry will have a very good chance.
Should we lose the likes of Bony and Williams and fail to find suitable replacements we could have a very difficult season.
It's going to be an interesting summer. |
To be fair, if we lost the likes of Bony and Williams and fail to find suitable replacements, we'd have a very difficult season no matter who was in charge.
It wouldn't be Swansea City if it wasn't an interesting summer, would it?  |  |
| You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help. |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 12:02 - May 8 with 738 views | Drizzy |
Should Garry Monk be a successful manager I hope to f*ck that every single person that predicted his success and supported his appointment rubs it in the faces of the likes of DYSS, Warwick, Trundle10, C_jack et al. (I'd chuck O'Boogs in too but he's expertly reversed out of his original opinion as always.) I hope they never let them hear the f*cking end of it. I have serious doubts regarding this appointment but f*ck me the aforementioned clan have been beyond tedious. They offer almost no constructive criticism at all. They're searching for any stick that they can beat Monk and the board with. They're out to further their own agendas.
You just know they'll swarm over this board like locusts every time Monk makes a questionable decision. Every underwhelming signing, every ill-timed substitution and every tactical mishap will be scrutinised beyond belief by this lot. However when Monk makes a good decision you know it'll be down to beginner's luck, a gift from the opposition or some other b*llocks. They'll squirm out of any reason to give Monk credit.
It'll be a long season but it'll all be worth it come this next time year when we're sitting pretty in mid-table with another season of PREMIER LEAGUE football to look forward to. I hope every f*cking man, woman and child on this board never lets DYSS - and his clan - forget about the complete and utter sh*te they've been talking these last few months. | |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 12:18 - May 8 with 730 views | Starsky |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 12:02 - May 8 by Drizzy |
Should Garry Monk be a successful manager I hope to f*ck that every single person that predicted his success and supported his appointment rubs it in the faces of the likes of DYSS, Warwick, Trundle10, C_jack et al. (I'd chuck O'Boogs in too but he's expertly reversed out of his original opinion as always.) I hope they never let them hear the f*cking end of it. I have serious doubts regarding this appointment but f*ck me the aforementioned clan have been beyond tedious. They offer almost no constructive criticism at all. They're searching for any stick that they can beat Monk and the board with. They're out to further their own agendas.
You just know they'll swarm over this board like locusts every time Monk makes a questionable decision. Every underwhelming signing, every ill-timed substitution and every tactical mishap will be scrutinised beyond belief by this lot. However when Monk makes a good decision you know it'll be down to beginner's luck, a gift from the opposition or some other b*llocks. They'll squirm out of any reason to give Monk credit.
It'll be a long season but it'll all be worth it come this next time year when we're sitting pretty in mid-table with another season of PREMIER LEAGUE football to look forward to. I hope every f*cking man, woman and child on this board never lets DYSS - and his clan - forget about the complete and utter sh*te they've been talking these last few months. |
I've got to say guys. Drizzy's said much more bluntly what I posted last night..
Although, if we win our first game then it'll be just as tedious with happy clappers saying they were right to appoint Monk.
What can we do? This forum will be more divided than ever next season if both pro & anti Monk brigades start off a point scoring festival.
I get that some of you don't want Monk in charge but he's here now. Lets all get behind him & hope to god he pulls it off. Apart from DYSS, surely we all want him to succeed,
Do you really want to be giving grudging praise if it goes well?
Lets get behind the manager & team ffs. Come on you swans!!!  |  |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 12:23 - May 8 with 717 views | C_jack |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 12:02 - May 8 by Drizzy |
Should Garry Monk be a successful manager I hope to f*ck that every single person that predicted his success and supported his appointment rubs it in the faces of the likes of DYSS, Warwick, Trundle10, C_jack et al. (I'd chuck O'Boogs in too but he's expertly reversed out of his original opinion as always.) I hope they never let them hear the f*cking end of it. I have serious doubts regarding this appointment but f*ck me the aforementioned clan have been beyond tedious. They offer almost no constructive criticism at all. They're searching for any stick that they can beat Monk and the board with. They're out to further their own agendas.
You just know they'll swarm over this board like locusts every time Monk makes a questionable decision. Every underwhelming signing, every ill-timed substitution and every tactical mishap will be scrutinised beyond belief by this lot. However when Monk makes a good decision you know it'll be down to beginner's luck, a gift from the opposition or some other b*llocks. They'll squirm out of any reason to give Monk credit.
It'll be a long season but it'll all be worth it come this next time year when we're sitting pretty in mid-table with another season of PREMIER LEAGUE football to look forward to. I hope every f*cking man, woman and child on this board never lets DYSS - and his clan - forget about the complete and utter sh*te they've been talking these last few months. |
You are Kevin Keegan.. | |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 12:28 - May 8 with 710 views | C_jack |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 12:18 - May 8 by Starsky |
I've got to say guys. Drizzy's said much more bluntly what I posted last night..
Although, if we win our first game then it'll be just as tedious with happy clappers saying they were right to appoint Monk.
What can we do? This forum will be more divided than ever next season if both pro & anti Monk brigades start off a point scoring festival.
I get that some of you don't want Monk in charge but he's here now. Lets all get behind him & hope to god he pulls it off. Apart from DYSS, surely we all want him to succeed,
Do you really want to be giving grudging praise if it goes well?
Lets get behind the manager & team ffs. Come on you swans!!! |
It really isn't hero v villain, good v evil. It doesn't take much thought to get out of the caveman mindset of
"You ask question, you bad. You cheer, you good" | |
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