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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread 19:00 - Aug 28 with 18208 viewsSirjohnalot

Don’t Neil for Alex on Wednesday night.
Its yet another new manager facing the Swans.


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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 22:51 - Aug 31 with 1186 viewsDr_Parnassus

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 22:41 - Aug 31 by Badlands

Not buying the better performance.
More direct but poor end product and very lucky at the back.
A point is a point but nothing learned from recent games.


We were certainly more direct yes.

That always happens when you scale back possession and, pass count etc.

All the lowest of the season.

But if we are trying to make “Martinball” work, this has to be the worst performance we have seen under him?

52% possession
400 odd passes
78% completion

This is what I’m trying to get to the bottom of, what metric are we now using for performance analysis?

When Cooper produced those numbers it was dross. But now Martin does it and it’s much improved. It’s barmy.

Do we want heavy possession, high pass count football or not?

The reaction to this game is confusing.
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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 23:05 - Aug 31 with 1146 viewscadleigh

Didn't see most of the game thanks to the same connection problems most posters seem to have experienced, but wasn't tonight's game evidence that we have more quality in the squad than the results so far would suggest? (Well done Cooper O, now can we see Cooper B and Williams D get a chance? And welcome back Joe Allen YJB)

Presumably we can all agree on that, regardless of whether we think the glass is half full, half empty or just think that it doesn't matter because nobody's going to change it any time soon?
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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 23:09 - Aug 31 with 1124 viewsKeithHaynes

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 23:05 - Aug 31 by cadleigh

Didn't see most of the game thanks to the same connection problems most posters seem to have experienced, but wasn't tonight's game evidence that we have more quality in the squad than the results so far would suggest? (Well done Cooper O, now can we see Cooper B and Williams D get a chance? And welcome back Joe Allen YJB)

Presumably we can all agree on that, regardless of whether we think the glass is half full, half empty or just think that it doesn't matter because nobody's going to change it any time soon?
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For me the home game on Saturday is Martins catalyst.

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 23:21 - Aug 31 with 1089 viewsBadlands

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 23:09 - Aug 31 by KeithHaynes

For me the home game on Saturday is Martins catalyst.


Yet another very late capitulation, Martin hasn’t learned.
Should be gone before the weekend.

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:31 - Sep 1 with 1009 viewsSTID2017

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 22:05 - Aug 31 by onehunglow

If Martin isnt going anywhere ,we are screwed.
You admitted you were losing faith
Getting behind the team should mean not allowing them to be ruined by a coach like Martin.

#SUPPORT THE TEAM.SUPPORT THE PLAYERS.

xxxxxx Martin


Sad to see the same old rhetoric from you.
Clear as day Martin is going nowhere.
Just accept it, it will be less painful for you then.

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:43 - Sep 1 with 1008 viewsSTID2017

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 21:48 - Aug 31 by DwightYorkeSuperstar

We had more possession, as is usual.

Yet the opposition managed to create twice as many dangerous attacks as us and attempt twice as many shots on goal.

It appears to be business as usual to me. Even down to the inability to sensibly see a game out. That wasn't their only big chance at the end of the match.


49 / 51 is hardly the 70% we have got used to seeing.
Also they were the home side so you expect them to create more chances.
However for all their chances they had 4 on target, we had 5.
So hardly " business as usual "

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:47 - Sep 1 with 1001 viewsSTID2017

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 21:55 - Aug 31 by Dr_Parnassus

That they had more scoring opportunities? Double in fact.

Strange way to agree with me.


Home side creates more chances.
What a shock.
Shots on target count, they had 4 we had 5.
Give praise where it is due for once eh ?

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:50 - Sep 1 with 992 viewsDr_Parnassus

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:47 - Sep 1 by STID2017

Home side creates more chances.
What a shock.
Shots on target count, they had 4 we had 5.
Give praise where it is due for once eh ?


Praise for what exactly?

For not losing against a side in 16th? Jesus Christ man, this manager has sucked every last drop of ambition and pride out of this side that we feel we have to celebrate when we don’t lose.

1 win in 15 games STID. Let that sink in.

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:52 - Sep 1 with 993 viewsSTID2017

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 21:45 - Aug 31 by Dr_Parnassus

Right?


Do the math.
5 is more than 4, they can create as many as they like off target.
It is the one(s) on target that potentially hurt

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:54 - Sep 1 with 989 viewsDr_Parnassus

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:52 - Sep 1 by STID2017

Do the math.
5 is more than 4, they can create as many as they like off target.
It is the one(s) on target that potentially hurt


That’s an awful way to look at it.

Them not being able to finish they chances isn’t a thing to praise us for.

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:56 - Sep 1 with 990 viewsSTID2017

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:50 - Sep 1 by Dr_Parnassus

Praise for what exactly?

For not losing against a side in 16th? Jesus Christ man, this manager has sucked every last drop of ambition and pride out of this side that we feel we have to celebrate when we don’t lose.

1 win in 15 games STID. Let that sink in.


If we are at home and the opposition create more on target chances you slag us off.
If we are away and we create more on target chances you slag us off.
RM and the team can't win with you

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:59 - Sep 1 with 985 viewsDr_Parnassus

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:56 - Sep 1 by STID2017

If we are at home and the opposition create more on target chances you slag us off.
If we are away and we create more on target chances you slag us off.
RM and the team can't win with you


I don’t understand what point you are making.

Opportunities are the key factor of any football match, my complaint that you are referring to is with regards to “our dominance”.

Having 75% of the ball and one shot extra on target doesn’t strike me as “dominance”. My analysis does and always has gone far deeper than “shots on target”.

I’ll tell you how RM can win with me…. Win.

That’s a thought aye?

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:01 - Sep 1 with 981 viewsSTID2017

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:54 - Sep 1 by Dr_Parnassus

That’s an awful way to look at it.

Them not being able to finish they chances isn’t a thing to praise us for.


It is the only way to look at it.
We created more on target chances than they did.
For all the stats that you love to quote, the only ones that count are shots on target and of course goals scored

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:03 - Sep 1 with 977 viewsSTID2017

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:59 - Sep 1 by Dr_Parnassus

I don’t understand what point you are making.

Opportunities are the key factor of any football match, my complaint that you are referring to is with regards to “our dominance”.

Having 75% of the ball and one shot extra on target doesn’t strike me as “dominance”. My analysis does and always has gone far deeper than “shots on target”.

I’ll tell you how RM can win with me…. Win.

That’s a thought aye?


What a surprise.
Someone makes a point that goes against yours and you can't understand it ?
Perhaps pm Surjonalot and he can explain in simpler terms for you

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:04 - Sep 1 with 971 viewsSTID2017

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 00:59 - Sep 1 by Dr_Parnassus

I don’t understand what point you are making.

Opportunities are the key factor of any football match, my complaint that you are referring to is with regards to “our dominance”.

Having 75% of the ball and one shot extra on target doesn’t strike me as “dominance”. My analysis does and always has gone far deeper than “shots on target”.

I’ll tell you how RM can win with me…. Win.

That’s a thought aye?


Possession was 49/51 - so what is 75% about?
Nos Da

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:05 - Sep 1 with 969 viewsDr_Parnassus

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:01 - Sep 1 by STID2017

It is the only way to look at it.
We created more on target chances than they did.
For all the stats that you love to quote, the only ones that count are shots on target and of course goals scored


It’s not the way to look at it at all, let alone the only way.

You don’t “create a chance on target”, you create a chance. What their strikers do with it is up to them, not us.

Goals scored are the only stats that count towards the actual result if you want to strip it back to such a basic level.

That was 1-1. Hardly something to be dancing in the streets about is it?

It’s another last minute capitulation. You should be furious.

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:07 - Sep 1 with 963 viewsDr_Parnassus

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:04 - Sep 1 by STID2017

Possession was 49/51 - so what is 75% about?
Nos Da


You were talking about me complaining before.

I’m explaining to you the situation. Hence the 75%.

Night pal.

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:07 - Sep 1 with 964 viewsSTID2017

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:05 - Sep 1 by Dr_Parnassus

It’s not the way to look at it at all, let alone the only way.

You don’t “create a chance on target”, you create a chance. What their strikers do with it is up to them, not us.

Goals scored are the only stats that count towards the actual result if you want to strip it back to such a basic level.

That was 1-1. Hardly something to be dancing in the streets about is it?

It’s another last minute capitulation. You should be furious.


Some expected a mauling when the team was announced.
So will take 1-1, although gutted to concede so late and in the manner we did

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:08 - Sep 1 with 961 viewsDr_Parnassus

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:03 - Sep 1 by STID2017

What a surprise.
Someone makes a point that goes against yours and you can't understand it ?
Perhaps pm Surjonalot and he can explain in simpler terms for you


No, I don’t understand your point - nobody else’s.

You failed to explain it well enough.

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:09 - Sep 1 with 958 viewsDr_Parnassus

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:07 - Sep 1 by STID2017

Some expected a mauling when the team was announced.
So will take 1-1, although gutted to concede so late and in the manner we did


Why expect a mauling? It’s Stoke not Real Madrid.

I didn’t expect a mauling at all.

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:32 - Sep 1 with 950 viewsKerouac

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 21:49 - Aug 31 by lifelong

Why don’t you post and praise the players when we are playing well and take the lead early in the game?

Oh! Hang on, there’s no need to answer.


Why don’t you post and criticise the manager when we are playing crap and concede the points in injury time, again?

Oh! Hang on, there’s no need to answer.

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 06:56 - Sep 1 with 846 viewslifelong

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:32 - Sep 1 by Kerouac

Why don’t you post and criticise the manager when we are playing crap and concede the points in injury time, again?

Oh! Hang on, there’s no need to answer.


Have a look through this thread and you will find a criticism of the manager from me regarding our stupid goal kick tactic.
Have a look through his posts for the past 3 years and beyond and that’s all you’ll find is total crap and the odd smiley when the opposition score.
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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 07:21 - Sep 1 with 817 viewsPatchesOHoulihan

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 01:07 - Sep 1 by STID2017

Some expected a mauling when the team was announced.
So will take 1-1, although gutted to concede so late and in the manner we did


Genuine question - who was expecting a mauling looking at the side?

And if so was it because of how we play or because of the quality of the teams?

This is Patches O'Houlihan saying "Take care of your balls, and they'll take care of you."

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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 07:23 - Sep 1 with 814 viewsPawelAbbott

Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 23:09 - Aug 31 by KeithHaynes

For me the home game on Saturday is Martins catalyst.


Hopefully, he can turn into a butterfly and leave
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Stoke City v Swansea City Matchday Thread on 20:49 - Aug 30 by Kilkennyjack

Not for me OHL.

Sounds too much like the Boy Scouts tbh …. Dib dib 🇬🇧


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