| Morfa shopping parking fine 19:01 - Apr 11 with 5847 views | blaenaugwentjack |
Evening all I have just received a fixed parking fine of £70.00 or £40.00 if I pay within 14 days. I foolishly arrived late at the stadium for the Birmingham City game and hastily parked in the Morfa car park from 14.40 to 17.38, Group Nexus have now sent me the file. Is this legal? Can I contest this? Or is it just pay up? Thanks in advance for any advice. |  | | |  |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 19:04 - Apr 11 with 4896 views | 73__73 |
Whether they can legally enforce the fine, I’m unsure, but one thing I do know is if you don’t pay, it will effect your credit score. If I was you, I’d pay. | |
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| Morfa shopping parking fine on 19:23 - Apr 11 with 4858 views | KeithHaynes |
General Enquiries. 020 7431 4001. info@groupnexus.co.uk.
PCN & Appeals. appeals@groupnexus.co.uk.
Media Enquiries. James Harrison. media@groupnexus.co.uk.
Call them and apologise ? |  |
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| Morfa shopping parking fine on 19:30 - Apr 11 with 4840 views | Sirjohnalot |
I’m pretty sure they’re enforceable, they can take you to court. Not worth taking the risk |  | | |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 19:39 - Apr 11 with 4828 views | Kilkennyjack |
Well i am not a lawyer but a friend of mine refused to pay a similar fine.
The shops usually pay a 3rd party for parking enforcement.
You could say you are a regular shopper, hopefully true, and get them to call the dogs off.
They could choose to do that.
If if goes to court then i think they have to prove ‘loss’.
Thats hard for them if the car park was half empty at the time.
What have they lost ?
Try google before you pay up. [Post edited 11 Apr 2022 19:40]
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| Morfa shopping parking fine on 19:50 - Apr 11 with 4807 views | raynor94 |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 19:39 - Apr 11 by Kilkennyjack |
Well i am not a lawyer but a friend of mine refused to pay a similar fine.
The shops usually pay a 3rd party for parking enforcement.
You could say you are a regular shopper, hopefully true, and get them to call the dogs off.
They could choose to do that.
If if goes to court then i think they have to prove ‘loss’.
Thats hard for them if the car park was half empty at the time.
What have they lost ?
Try google before you pay up. [Post edited 11 Apr 2022 19:40]
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Why take the risk the fine will only go up, sometimes you are caught bang to rights.
Pay the £40, and take the lesson on board |  |
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| Morfa shopping parking fine on 20:27 - Apr 11 with 4753 views | blaenaugwentjack |
Thanks everyone for the replies and advice. | | | |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 20:27 - Apr 11 with 4752 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 19:50 - Apr 11 by raynor94 |
Why take the risk the fine will only go up, sometimes you are caught bang to rights.
Pay the £40, and take the lesson on board |
How do you think they will be able to prove ‘loss’ then….?
This is a private company, not the police or local authority.
They rely on people like you to give up and pay up.
Its a gamble without a doubt, but he asked for suggestions.
Google says they may fold as they know they cant prove a loss when the car park is half empty.
Might have to hold your nerve to get there. | |
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| Morfa shopping parking fine on 20:33 - Apr 11 with 4741 views | britferry |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 20:27 - Apr 11 by Kilkennyjack |
How do you think they will be able to prove ‘loss’ then….?
This is a private company, not the police or local authority.
They rely on people like you to give up and pay up.
Its a gamble without a doubt, but he asked for suggestions.
Google says they may fold as they know they cant prove a loss when the car park is half empty.
Might have to hold your nerve to get there. |
what does google suggest for penis enlargements? asking for a friend obviously  | |
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| Morfa shopping parking fine on 20:37 - Apr 11 with 4738 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 20:33 - Apr 11 by britferry |
what does google suggest for penis enlargements? asking for a friend obviously |
What a strange question ?
Maybe you should avoid public changing rooms as a first step ?!
Might take the pressure off you a bit.
Good luck with it, cant be easy mate.
Poor dab. | |
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| Morfa shopping parking fine on 20:55 - Apr 11 with 4706 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 20:27 - Apr 11 by Kilkennyjack |
How do you think they will be able to prove ‘loss’ then….?
This is a private company, not the police or local authority.
They rely on people like you to give up and pay up.
Its a gamble without a doubt, but he asked for suggestions.
Google says they may fold as they know they cant prove a loss when the car park is half empty.
Might have to hold your nerve to get there. |
It’s not my area so I may well be wrong but I’d have thought it’s basic contract law. a person has agreed to abide by their terms and conditions by parking there, and have breached the terms.
Not done contract since 97 so I maybe well out. | | | |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 21:21 - Apr 11 with 4662 views | raynor94 |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 20:27 - Apr 11 by Kilkennyjack |
How do you think they will be able to prove ‘loss’ then….?
This is a private company, not the police or local authority.
They rely on people like you to give up and pay up.
Its a gamble without a doubt, but he asked for suggestions.
Google says they may fold as they know they cant prove a loss when the car park is half empty.
Might have to hold your nerve to get there. |
Because as you should know quite well, their are signs all over the car park, warning of match day restrictions.
Glad to see you are so blasé with others money. | |
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| Morfa shopping parking fine on 21:22 - Apr 11 with 4653 views | 73__73 |
For the sake of £40 just pay it. Not worth the hassle of not paying it. | |
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| Morfa shopping parking fine on 21:25 - Apr 11 with 4647 views | 73__73 |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 21:21 - Apr 11 by raynor94 |
Because as you should know quite well, their are signs all over the car park, warning of match day restrictions.
Glad to see you are so blasé with others money. |
What about people who can’t read ? | |
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| Morfa shopping parking fine on 22:25 - Apr 11 with 4622 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 21:25 - Apr 11 by 73__73 |
What about people who can’t read ? |
They wouldn’t be on this forum | | | |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 22:59 - Apr 11 with 4596 views | jack_lord |
My wife parked there a few months ago when the Swans were playing. She was there for nearly two hours ( cannot remember exactly ) but got the fine.
I spoke to the guy who manages the retail park as wife was quite upset about the ticket. He was really reasonable and got the ticket cancelled. She did leave the shopping park at something like 4:15 though. |  |
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| Morfa shopping parking fine on 23:06 - Apr 11 with 4595 views | Treforys_Jack |
I had one from there about 7yrs ago and basically ignored it, the letters kept coming, increasing the fine, with the tone getting more and more threatening, then after about 2yrs they just stopped. HOWEVER I believe the law has changed in the last few years and basically you've not got a leg to stand on. You could speak to one of the managers of one of the stores, they have the power to overturn the fine, but for £40, I'd just suck it up. Good luck. |  | | |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 00:11 - Apr 12 with 4579 views | controversial_jack |
It makes me wonder why they have the carrot and stick. Pay up straight away and you get a discount. Surely, if it's a so called fine they want ppl to pay up without making a fuss, or they don't want the hassle of going to court.
If it was me, I would tell them to shove it, but i'm retired, on a private pension, I don't use credit and everything is in joint names, so there's not much they can do | | | |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 07:33 - Apr 12 with 4526 views | builthjack |
If I go to B&Q by the stadium, I could be 3 hours in there, perhaps getting a quote for a kitchen, looking about the store, looking at the garden centre area.
Yet they give you 90 minutes on a match day.
That doesn't add up.
I have never paid parking fines, they go away eventually.they write letters until the cows come home. I always ignore ignore ignore. The stop in the end.
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| Morfa shopping parking fine on 11:05 - Apr 12 with 4445 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 20:55 - Apr 11 by Sirjohnalot |
It’s not my area so I may well be wrong but I’d have thought it’s basic contract law. a person has agreed to abide by their terms and conditions by parking there, and have breached the terms.
Not done contract since 97 so I maybe well out. |
Not my area either but surely the whole point of a contract is that it has to be documented in some way that both parties agree to the terms and conditions? You usually need a signature or some kind of audio recording or electronic record like a “click here to accept terms and conditions” sort of thing?
If there’s no record of a party entering into a contract how on earth can it be enforced as a contract? If a person is dyslexic or a foreign speaker and can’t read the signs then are they still unknowingly entering into a contract? This sounds like a very unethical practice to me. | | | |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 12:02 - Apr 12 with 4427 views | CountyJim |
Worked with a chap in Port Talbot he got caught in Newport speeding think it's the second most grossing camera in uk anyway he had notification in post brought it into work our shift manager in the Harbour said just ignore well he took his advice  in the end he had to pay 800 quid for I think was a 80 quid fine |  | | |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 12:11 - Apr 12 with 4423 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 12:02 - Apr 12 by CountyJim |
Worked with a chap in Port Talbot he got caught in Newport speeding think it's the second most grossing camera in uk anyway he had notification in post brought it into work our shift manager in the Harbour said just ignore well he took his advice in the end he had to pay 800 quid for I think was a 80 quid fine |
Well a fine issued by the police or council is obviously different to a supposed breach of contract that nobody has signed for parking in a free car park. | | | |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 12:24 - Apr 12 with 4407 views | controversial_jack |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 12:11 - Apr 12 by Flynnidine_Zidownes |
Well a fine issued by the police or council is obviously different to a supposed breach of contract that nobody has signed for parking in a free car park. |
You can't ignore a police fine, and councils themselves have no authority to penalize. With council notices, you can almost guarantee something will be wrong with the wording. I have done it myself, challenged one and I won. No appeal, just a challenge | | | |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 14:01 - Apr 12 with 4363 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 21:21 - Apr 11 by raynor94 |
Because as you should know quite well, their are signs all over the car park, warning of match day restrictions.
Glad to see you are so blasé with others money. |
‘There are signs’, not ‘their are signs’ ….
Anyhow having a different opinion to you is almost always a very good thing … 🤣 | |
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| Morfa shopping parking fine on 14:12 - Apr 12 with 4355 views | raynor94 |
| Morfa shopping parking fine on 14:01 - Apr 12 by Kilkennyjack |
‘There are signs’, not ‘their are signs’ ….
Anyhow having a different opinion to you is almost always a very good thing … 🤣 |
It certainly is, I only try to comment on things that I have knowledge of.
Where you just trawl the net for any old rubbish and then portray it as fact.
Oh and I apologise for the predictive text old boy, I'll try to be more careful in future | |
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