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Improved train service for the Cardiff area 06:26 - May 31 with 4794 viewsWhiterockin

Meanwhile in the west nothing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c888j7722q6o
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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 10:08 - Jun 9 with 656 viewscontroversial_jack

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 14:04 - Jun 8 by felixstowe_jack

Yes correct the Welsh government and Tfw are not interested in any investment outside Cardiff. New Station around Swansea should be a priority and a half hourly service to all stations like Llansamlet, Skewen, Briton Ferry, Baglan and Pyle would ease road congestion.


The stations already exist and are not well used. There's no reason to go into the City when we can go to Cardiff shopping instead
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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 10:28 - Jun 9 with 646 viewsWhiterockin

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 10:08 - Jun 9 by controversial_jack

The stations already exist and are not well used. There's no reason to go into the City when we can go to Cardiff shopping instead


Clearly you don't work or socialise in Swansea.
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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 19:02 - Jun 9 with 572 viewsAnotherJohn

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 08:54 - Jun 8 by Boundy

Therein is the problem of why s Wales will only ever prosper in one area the s East, creating the wealth in one are by creating the jobs there and in doing so allows Cardiff to grow even bigger whilst the rest stagnate. Over 80% of new jobs created in s Wales is in Cardiff , what a statistic .
The exodus to Cardiff each working day from Swansea and its environs is palpable and because of this and in doing so is denying the city's growth. Why not create the work where people live instead of expecting them to travel at least 2.5/3 hours a day from say Bryncethin ( as its stands atm ).
The best we can hope for is a mono rail to Amazon Warehouse and the University ( of which the students are more that adequately served .)
More should be done for s West Wales instead of this drive to making Cardiff bigger .IMO of course.


Re SW Wales I read about a possible crumb of comfort - not sure if this is definitely going ahead.

"Grand Union is proposing to launch its new service between Carmarthen and London as soon as it is able to secure the necessary rolling stock. The planned start of 2025 is not currently achievable with the long lead times on new build trains, and Grand Union is exploring various options to deliver this important service as soon possible.

A new parkway station is proposed to be built at Parc Felindre close to Junction 46 of the M4 motorway, but initial services will call at Gowerton and bypass Swansea thereby reducing journey times from further west to Cardiff and London by around 20 minutes."

http://www.granduniontrains.co.uk/
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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 19:09 - Jun 9 with 561 viewsraynor94

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 10:08 - Jun 9 by controversial_jack

The stations already exist and are not well used. There's no reason to go into the City when we can go to Cardiff shopping instead


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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 20:02 - Jun 9 with 524 viewsBoundy

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 19:02 - Jun 9 by AnotherJohn

Re SW Wales I read about a possible crumb of comfort - not sure if this is definitely going ahead.

"Grand Union is proposing to launch its new service between Carmarthen and London as soon as it is able to secure the necessary rolling stock. The planned start of 2025 is not currently achievable with the long lead times on new build trains, and Grand Union is exploring various options to deliver this important service as soon possible.

A new parkway station is proposed to be built at Parc Felindre close to Junction 46 of the M4 motorway, but initial services will call at Gowerton and bypass Swansea thereby reducing journey times from further west to Cardiff and London by around 20 minutes."

http://www.granduniontrains.co.uk/


But the problem that I can see is that the new line will bypass the City and therefore the Pembroke/.Carmarthen passengers will potentially stop at Cardiff instead of Swansea to do their shopping

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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 20:02 - Jun 9 with 524 viewsBoundy

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 10:08 - Jun 9 by controversial_jack

The stations already exist and are not well used. There's no reason to go into the City when we can go to Cardiff shopping instead


How exactly do you know they're not well used ?

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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 20:06 - Jun 9 with 517 viewsraynor94

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 20:02 - Jun 9 by Boundy

How exactly do you know they're not well used ?


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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 20:08 - Jun 9 with 513 viewsBoundy

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 20:06 - Jun 9 by raynor94

His mate told him mun🥱


He has a mate ?

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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 21:34 - Jun 9 with 483 viewsReslovenSwan1

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 20:02 - Jun 9 by Boundy

But the problem that I can see is that the new line will bypass the City and therefore the Pembroke/.Carmarthen passengers will potentially stop at Cardiff instead of Swansea to do their shopping


Swansea has alway been a terminus station. There is no through track. Shoppers just need one change to visit Swansea alighting at the new Parkway station. This is not likely to put off too many people,

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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 07:58 - Jun 10 with 402 viewsBoundy

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 21:34 - Jun 9 by ReslovenSwan1

Swansea has alway been a terminus station. There is no through track. Shoppers just need one change to visit Swansea alighting at the new Parkway station. This is not likely to put off too many people,


You'd like to think so , I do not .

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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 08:35 - Jun 10 with 396 viewsAnotherJohn

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 07:58 - Jun 10 by Boundy

You'd like to think so , I do not .


Wouldn't the existing services still be in place to allow shopping trips from Carmarthen to Swansea? The way I saw things is that Grand Union Trains is an add on that improves connectivity from South West Wales to points further east.
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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 09:30 - Jun 10 with 379 viewscontroversial_jack

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 20:02 - Jun 9 by Boundy

How exactly do you know they're not well used ?


I pass a railway station quite often and don't see many using it
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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 09:32 - Jun 10 with 381 viewsWhiterockin

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 08:35 - Jun 10 by AnotherJohn

Wouldn't the existing services still be in place to allow shopping trips from Carmarthen to Swansea? The way I saw things is that Grand Union Trains is an add on that improves connectivity from South West Wales to points further east.


Currently you can get trains from West Wales to Cardiff bypassing Swansea. The Carmarthen to Port Talbot stretch it only stops at Llanelli when it bypasses Swansea. Strangely you only save 5-8 minutes because the track is poor and has restricted speed limits.
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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 09:44 - Jun 10 with 379 viewsonehunglow

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 09:32 - Jun 10 by Whiterockin

Currently you can get trains from West Wales to Cardiff bypassing Swansea. The Carmarthen to Port Talbot stretch it only stops at Llanelli when it bypasses Swansea. Strangely you only save 5-8 minutes because the track is poor and has restricted speed limits.


I used to think Swansea was the end of the line as they was nothing of any consequence west of it.
It why High St had buffers
Swansea should be the focal point for south west Wales,a not insignificant area.

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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 15:05 - Jun 10 with 342 viewsBoundy

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 09:30 - Jun 10 by controversial_jack

I pass a railway station quite often and don't see many using it


A train spotter as well ,I'd have never guessed

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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 15:43 - Jun 10 with 331 viewsWhiterockin

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 09:30 - Jun 10 by controversial_jack

I pass a railway station quite often and don't see many using it


Try using it and then your opinion would carry more weight.
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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 16:33 - Jun 10 with 304 viewscontroversial_jack

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 15:43 - Jun 10 by Whiterockin

Try using it and then your opinion would carry more weight.


This was from a year ago

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/passenger-numbers-welsh-trains-wel
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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 16:52 - Jun 10 with 286 viewsWhiterockin

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 16:33 - Jun 10 by controversial_jack

This was from a year ago

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/passenger-numbers-welsh-trains-wel


No mention of GWR there who carry far more passengers to Swansea than TFW, who are mostly rural lines who have been hit hard by Cardiff commuters working from home since the pandemic.
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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 17:15 - Jun 10 with 270 viewscontroversial_jack

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 16:52 - Jun 10 by Whiterockin

No mention of GWR there who carry far more passengers to Swansea than TFW, who are mostly rural lines who have been hit hard by Cardiff commuters working from home since the pandemic.


We were referring to local transport not national transport
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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 17:22 - Jun 10 with 270 viewsraynor94

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 15:05 - Jun 10 by Boundy

A train spotter as well ,I'd have never guessed



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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 17:47 - Jun 10 with 258 viewsWhiterockin

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 17:15 - Jun 10 by controversial_jack

We were referring to local transport not national transport


Neath to Swansea on a GWR is local transport
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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 18:00 - Jun 10 with 237 viewscontroversial_jack

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 17:47 - Jun 10 by Whiterockin

Neath to Swansea on a GWR is local transport


I'm not in Neath
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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 18:13 - Jun 10 with 230 viewsWhiterockin

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 18:00 - Jun 10 by controversial_jack

I'm not in Neath


Do you need a life jacket because you are drowning again. You try to be clever but you just are not bright enough.
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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 18:19 - Jun 10 with 206 viewsjohnlangy

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 08:54 - Jun 8 by Boundy

Therein is the problem of why s Wales will only ever prosper in one area the s East, creating the wealth in one are by creating the jobs there and in doing so allows Cardiff to grow even bigger whilst the rest stagnate. Over 80% of new jobs created in s Wales is in Cardiff , what a statistic .
The exodus to Cardiff each working day from Swansea and its environs is palpable and because of this and in doing so is denying the city's growth. Why not create the work where people live instead of expecting them to travel at least 2.5/3 hours a day from say Bryncethin ( as its stands atm ).
The best we can hope for is a mono rail to Amazon Warehouse and the University ( of which the students are more that adequately served .)
More should be done for s West Wales instead of this drive to making Cardiff bigger .IMO of course.


Spot on. That's most people's opinion.
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Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 18:23 - Jun 10 with 202 viewsjohnlangy

Improved train service for the Cardiff area on 09:30 - Jun 10 by controversial_jack

I pass a railway station quite often and don't see many using it


Well logically cj you'd only see people using it if you just happened to be passing just before a train arrives for the passengers to get on.

If that's once an hour for example how likely is that. Not your best argument.
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