| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... 11:44 - Feb 24 with 2702 views | theloneranger |
"Reform UK’s former leader in Wales has been charged with eight counts of bribery following an investigation by anti-terror detectives."
"The defendant is alleged to have been tasked by Oleg Voloshyn on at least eight occasions to make specific statements in return for money."
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 21:22 - Mar 3 with 551 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 19:11 - Mar 3 by SullutaCreturned |
I think you over estimate Plaid. Ap Iorwerth could shout all he likes but again, the PM can ignore him.
It's up to the PM who he listens too and shouting the loudest gives no guarantees. Plaid would have no real power and unlike Scotland, the "Welsh" party can't get a majority. Westminster are also scared of losing Northern Ireland. They have no worries over Wales. We have no strong "indy" streak but they were worried about the SNP taking Scotland out of the union, so much so they denied another vote, legally yes, but still denied. Same with Ireland, they worry the ROI will take the rest of the island back. TThey are quite confident Wales is going nowhere so they will ignore any demands no matter how "gritty" the demands are. |
That is correct in that it accurately decribes the story to date.
That said the world you are born into or grow up in does not fix any boundaries for the future. Thats for us and the generations who come after us to determine. Its all to play for.
In fact Wales has seen the largest increase in people who would support Indy jumping from 10% to over 30% over the last 10 years. And with greater support in the younger age groups.
That will not have gone unnoticed at Westminster.
If Labour does not deliver for Wales with Labour in power in both Westminster and Cardiff Bay then the arguement against Indy gets weaker and weaker. Starmer is a progressive and a huge improvement on Johnson and his cabinet of fools. But Starmer is a unionist to his boots and will try to ignore Wales. |  |
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 11:40 - Mar 4 with 474 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 21:22 - Mar 3 by Kilkennyjack |
That is correct in that it accurately decribes the story to date.
That said the world you are born into or grow up in does not fix any boundaries for the future. Thats for us and the generations who come after us to determine. Its all to play for.
In fact Wales has seen the largest increase in people who would support Indy jumping from 10% to over 30% over the last 10 years. And with greater support in the younger age groups.
That will not have gone unnoticed at Westminster.
If Labour does not deliver for Wales with Labour in power in both Westminster and Cardiff Bay then the arguement against Indy gets weaker and weaker. Starmer is a progressive and a huge improvement on Johnson and his cabinet of fools. But Starmer is a unionist to his boots and will try to ignore Wales. |
I regard Gill as an alleged traitor. Welsh people need to understand Reform have done enough damage already and have Trump / Musk / JD Vance steak.
They can insult anyone but get precious when people argue with them if they h get in power. Seen every where from Erdogan in Turkiye who locks up people for mild criticisms. "Insulting the President". [Post edited 4 Mar 11:41]
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 12:11 - Mar 4 with 468 views | Boundy |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 11:40 - Mar 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I regard Gill as an alleged traitor. Welsh people need to understand Reform have done enough damage already and have Trump / Musk / JD Vance steak.
They can insult anyone but get precious when people argue with them if they h get in power. Seen every where from Erdogan in Turkiye who locks up people for mild criticisms. "Insulting the President". [Post edited 4 Mar 11:41]
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and what damage exactly has Reform done to Wales , is it comparable to the 25 years of labour rule. is it it the same damage that Labour have inflicted by jailing people for posting hurty comments on social media. |  |
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 12:27 - Mar 4 with 462 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 12:11 - Mar 4 by Boundy |
and what damage exactly has Reform done to Wales , is it comparable to the 25 years of labour rule. is it it the same damage that Labour have inflicted by jailing people for posting hurty comments on social media. |
They have cost Wales thousands of jobs with the ill fated Brexit which was supported by the real globalist Putin Farage and Trump. Gill fits into this movement. | |
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 12:32 - Mar 4 with 458 views | Boundy |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 12:27 - Mar 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
They have cost Wales thousands of jobs with the ill fated Brexit which was supported by the real globalist Putin Farage and Trump. Gill fits into this movement. |
I never knew a political party could travel back in time ,enlighten me ? | |
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 13:35 - Mar 4 with 430 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 12:32 - Mar 4 by Boundy |
I never knew a political party could travel back in time ,enlighten me ? |
New party same old faces. The Brexit party in new clothes. Philosophy is unchanged. The WAg lined up ineos for a green field site in Bridgend in 2015. This would employ the old Ford workers and Tata redundancy people. Thousands of jobs.
Then NPT voted for Brexit and Radcliffe took his factory to Toulouse instead. 3000 worked in say £ 30,000. £90m pa for the NPT economy lost by following UKIp / Brexit / Reform. The people of NPT get what they voted for 50 USA jobs in it place keeping computers cool. | |
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 14:24 - Mar 4 with 415 views | Boundy |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 13:35 - Mar 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
New party same old faces. The Brexit party in new clothes. Philosophy is unchanged. The WAg lined up ineos for a green field site in Bridgend in 2015. This would employ the old Ford workers and Tata redundancy people. Thousands of jobs.
Then NPT voted for Brexit and Radcliffe took his factory to Toulouse instead. 3000 worked in say £ 30,000. £90m pa for the NPT economy lost by following UKIp / Brexit / Reform. The people of NPT get what they voted for 50 USA jobs in it place keeping computers cool. |
As it's been explained to you countless times about the old Ford site and the failure of the wag keeping Ineos sweet ,They had gone before the Brexit vote ,just what part of sentences explaining that detail do you not understand .
Brexit failed because those who had the responsibility of ensuring it's success were the traitors to the UK , they have sabotaged the will of the people at every opportunity . [Post edited 4 Mar 14:26]
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 16:24 - Mar 4 with 383 views | majorraglan |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 14:24 - Mar 4 by Boundy |
As it's been explained to you countless times about the old Ford site and the failure of the wag keeping Ineos sweet ,They had gone before the Brexit vote ,just what part of sentences explaining that detail do you not understand .
Brexit failed because those who had the responsibility of ensuring it's success were the traitors to the UK , they have sabotaged the will of the people at every opportunity . [Post edited 4 Mar 14:26]
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Ineos didn't decide to pull the plug on Bridgend until 2020, that’s 4 years after the Brexit vote. Fe announced the closure of Bridgend in 2019, - 3 years after the Brexit vote.
In terms of Brexit failing, the responsibility for ensuring its success and sabotaging the will of the people - I agree with you that its been poorly handled but part of the problem is that lots of people have different views about what Brexit should look like and given that there are so many fragmented views on what Brexit should look like it was never going to satisfy everyone. For example I’m happy to go along with Brexit, but I don’t want this ultra hard no deal Brexit that many on the very right have championed.
What is clear, is that we’ve been let down by our “leaders.” Immigration was a huge issue for many, taking control of our borders etc etc, but all we’ve done is replaced Eastern European migrants with Asian and African migrants and the numbers have increased drastically. | | | |
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 01:29 - Mar 5 with 329 views | Robbie |
Lemit Opik was another beaut too .
Met one of them Cheeky Girls , why not , what was not to like in her .
His career is now a non event , tomorrows chip papers wrapping if that is still a thing .
Vaughan Gething it seems has also slipped away quietly under the radar , nice one .
Politicians Cardiff Bay or Westminster , got to love them . | | | |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 07:46 - Mar 5 with 288 views | Boundy |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 16:24 - Mar 4 by majorraglan |
Ineos didn't decide to pull the plug on Bridgend until 2020, that’s 4 years after the Brexit vote. Fe announced the closure of Bridgend in 2019, - 3 years after the Brexit vote.
In terms of Brexit failing, the responsibility for ensuring its success and sabotaging the will of the people - I agree with you that its been poorly handled but part of the problem is that lots of people have different views about what Brexit should look like and given that there are so many fragmented views on what Brexit should look like it was never going to satisfy everyone. For example I’m happy to go along with Brexit, but I don’t want this ultra hard no deal Brexit that many on the very right have championed.
What is clear, is that we’ve been let down by our “leaders.” Immigration was a huge issue for many, taking control of our borders etc etc, but all we’ve done is replaced Eastern European migrants with Asian and African migrants and the numbers have increased drastically. |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55716432 | |
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 15:29 - Mar 5 with 246 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
It was a business decision of course. Brexit was bad for business that was obvious. The owner of Ineos wanted Brexit so was never going to say it was due to Brexit.
The French saw Brexit and took their chances and made a good gazumping case. Frictionless trade being a very good reason. One has to wonder if the UK government would have intervened in this gazumping without Brexit. | |
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 15:45 - Mar 5 with 233 views | Boundy |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 15:29 - Mar 5 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It was a business decision of course. Brexit was bad for business that was obvious. The owner of Ineos wanted Brexit so was never going to say it was due to Brexit.
The French saw Brexit and took their chances and made a good gazumping case. Frictionless trade being a very good reason. One has to wonder if the UK government would have intervened in this gazumping without Brexit. |
The boss of a firm that moved production of a new 4x4 vehicle from Wales to Europe says claims it was down to Brexit are "nonsense".
its a pity you cant accept the truth ,words from the owner . | |
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 16:13 - Mar 5 with 223 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 15:45 - Mar 5 by Boundy |
The boss of a firm that moved production of a new 4x4 vehicle from Wales to Europe says claims it was down to Brexit are "nonsense".
its a pity you cant accept the truth ,words from the owner . |
He was right it was a business decision..It was easier to trade in France rather than Wales after Brexit. | |
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 17:38 - Mar 5 with 206 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 12:32 - Mar 4 by Boundy |
I never knew a political party could travel back in time ,enlighten me ? |
An excellent point ….. 🙃
You are Donald J Trump and i claim my £10. | |
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 18:34 - Mar 5 with 182 views | Boundy |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 17:38 - Mar 5 by Kilkennyjack |
An excellent point ….. 🙃
You are Donald J Trump and i claim my £10. |
You're a plaid voter and I still can't stop laughing. I bet you get a Christmas card every year and why not, the list can't be big. | |
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 18:51 - Mar 5 with 171 views | raynor94 |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 18:34 - Mar 5 by Boundy |
You're a plaid voter and I still can't stop laughing. I bet you get a Christmas card every year and why not, the list can't be big. |
It's like Fatal Attraction, be careful out there Boundy |  |
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 22:07 - Mar 5 with 139 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 18:34 - Mar 5 by Boundy |
You're a plaid voter and I still can't stop laughing. I bet you get a Christmas card every year and why not, the list can't be big. |
You are an amazing comedian fair play…..
What a guy ….
You are promoting an English nationalist party as a welsh man.
I am embarrassed for you.
Google ‘quisling’ and get back to us. | |
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 22:21 - Mar 5 with 136 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 19:06 - Feb 24 by Kilkennyjack |
Trump and Musk is what they want for the uk.
Reform are the Establishment.
Farage has dinner parties with Rupert Murdoch, he ain’t down Pontarddulais Workies on a Friday night, thats for certain. |
Correct me if I’m wrong but they’ve never positioned themselves as the party of the “workies”. That is exclusively the domain of labour and the likes of the odious socialist workers party, whose members also will never be seen anywhere near pontardulais workies club. |  |
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 08:48 - Mar 6 with 76 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 22:21 - Mar 5 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Correct me if I’m wrong but they’ve never positioned themselves as the party of the “workies”. That is exclusively the domain of labour and the likes of the odious socialist workers party, whose members also will never be seen anywhere near pontardulais workies club. |
I think Farage has used the term People’s Army for over a decade.
Not the workers so i take your point.
Google says …Reform UK average age is 61 – not surprising when hardly any of them are aged 18 to 24 – very nearly half of them are over 65 and a third of them are aged between 50 and 64.
Its an army of angry pensioners.
Probably why they love a bus with a slogan. | |
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 08:53 - Mar 6 with 74 views | raynor94 |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 08:48 - Mar 6 by Kilkennyjack |
I think Farage has used the term People’s Army for over a decade.
Not the workers so i take your point.
Google says …Reform UK average age is 61 – not surprising when hardly any of them are aged 18 to 24 – very nearly half of them are over 65 and a third of them are aged between 50 and 64.
Its an army of angry pensioners.
Probably why they love a bus with a slogan. |
Well you are in the 50 - 64 group, are you going to become an angry pensioner? | |
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 09:01 - Mar 6 with 70 views | Boundy |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 22:07 - Mar 5 by Kilkennyjack |
You are an amazing comedian fair play…..
What a guy ….
You are promoting an English nationalist party as a welsh man.
I am embarrassed for you.
Google ‘quisling’ and get back to us. |
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| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 09:37 - Mar 6 with 65 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Nathan Gill accused of taking Russian bribes ... on 22:21 - Mar 5 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Correct me if I’m wrong but they’ve never positioned themselves as the party of the “workies”. That is exclusively the domain of labour and the likes of the odious socialist workers party, whose members also will never be seen anywhere near pontardulais workies club. |
When considering alliances one has to look at Reform and wonder if they want to work in the UK s national interest or that of a foreign power.
Globalists are not those accused but the USA Russia China a new axis. USA had clearly been aligned with Putin. Trump is aligned with Boris who has been dupped and Farage.
Trump blocked help for Ukraine in 2023-2024 with Speaker Johnson not releasing the support. This causes the destruction of Avdiivka and 1000 s of dead Ukrainians. It was thought this was electioneering by Trump which was bad enough but he has blocked support again.
Reform are Trump poodles and the real globalists. Not to be trusted. [Post edited 6 Mar 10:31]
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