| General Election Thread 17:46 - May 22 with 246787 views | loftboy |
This will be the first election that I have no idea who to vote for, will never vote Tory again after the lies during covid where my dad lost his life, don’t trust starmer, would never vote for a bunch of racists like reform , anyone give me a clue?
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| General Election Thread on 09:20 - Jul 6 with 1247 views | Konk |
| General Election Thread on 08:25 - Jul 6 by Northernr |
On a more positive note, SOME (I'm sure some of the others are crap, yes) of the cabinet appointments yesterday were really encouraging to me. Richard Hermer, Patrick Vallance, particularly James Timpson. Actual experts in their field, who've worked at the front line and know what they're talking about and what needs to be done. Not career ladder politicians who get a job simply for being loyal to the leader. It's a very welcome departure from having culture, media and sport run by bloody Nadine Dorries, or sticking Chris Grayling in charge of trains. |
I was really pleased about James Timpson too. Someone with lifelong, first hand experience in that field, who is passionate about improving the situation and who has entered politics for the right reason. No ambition to seek a more glamorous role, and seemingly a very decent bloke. |  |
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| General Election Thread on 09:30 - Jul 6 with 1229 views | Esox_Lucius |
| General Election Thread on 09:20 - Jul 6 by Gus_iom |
I think there's more division within both parties themselves then there was between the manifestos of the tories and labour.
Starmer is going to have a real job keeping the party together, and with 30 something percent of 59% of the electorate, he hasn't got the public mandate his overwhelming majority might suggest.
I don't like him or a lot of the policies and people around him, but I really hope I'm wrong and labour can make a real positive impact. |
I saw the landslide victory being described as a mile wide and an inch deep. His majority in his own constituency was severely under threat. |  |
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| General Election Thread on 09:33 - Jul 6 with 1225 views | Northernr |
| General Election Thread on 09:30 - Jul 6 by Esox_Lucius |
I saw the landslide victory being described as a mile wide and an inch deep. His majority in his own constituency was severely under threat. |
Didn't he win his constituency by 11,500 votes? |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 09:33 - Jul 6 with 1222 views | Discodroids |
| General Election Thread on 08:25 - Jul 6 by Northernr |
On a more positive note, SOME (I'm sure some of the others are crap, yes) of the cabinet appointments yesterday were really encouraging to me. Richard Hermer, Patrick Vallance, particularly James Timpson. Actual experts in their field, who've worked at the front line and know what they're talking about and what needs to be done. Not career ladder politicians who get a job simply for being loyal to the leader. It's a very welcome departure from having culture, media and sport run by bloody Nadine Dorries, or sticking Chris Grayling in charge of trains. |
Far be it of me to defend the previous collective of Shinning path ghouls that we were shackled to for the past 14 years. Yet if the below is correct, it doesn't scream to me a polarity drive of highly seasoned hyperbeings, more a phalanx of sawdust caesers who will be found most wanting facing the void which has been left before them by the previous Tory government.
I wish them gods speed with the herculean task they face as it's a job i wouldnt wish on my worst enemy.
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| General Election Thread on 09:35 - Jul 6 with 1214 views | Northernr |
| General Election Thread on 09:33 - Jul 6 by Discodroids |
Far be it of me to defend the previous collective of Shinning path ghouls that we were shackled to for the past 14 years. Yet if the below is correct, it doesn't scream to me a polarity drive of highly seasoned hyperbeings, more a phalanx of sawdust caesers who will be found most wanting facing the void which has been left before them by the previous Tory government.
I wish them gods speed with the herculean task they face as it's a job i wouldnt wish on my worst enemy.
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1 - hence my capping the word 'some'
2 - shall we got through some of the backgrounds of the Reform candidates? | | | |
| General Election Thread on 09:40 - Jul 6 with 1818 views | BostonR |
| General Election Thread on 09:20 - Jul 6 by Gus_iom |
I think there's more division within both parties themselves then there was between the manifestos of the tories and labour.
Starmer is going to have a real job keeping the party together, and with 30 something percent of 59% of the electorate, he hasn't got the public mandate his overwhelming majority might suggest.
I don't like him or a lot of the policies and people around him, but I really hope I'm wrong and labour can make a real positive impact. |
Starmer would have learnt from Blair’s first-term in office. His biggest regret was that he didn’t go for major reform in his first year as the government machine slowed him down.
Sue Gray was a very smart appointment as his Chief of Staff - she knows how the machine works. Given his background Starmer apparently has a laser-like focus on detail and delivery. He wouldn’t have just arrived yesterday without a detailed plan on how his first-year is going to pan out.
I expect to see major announcements on infrastructure investment, partnerships with business and a wholesale clean up of the NHS, education, law and order as well as defence.
I think he will be ruthless in his mission. |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 09:40 - Jul 6 with 1812 views | Discodroids |
| General Election Thread on 09:35 - Jul 6 by Northernr |
1 - hence my capping the word 'some'
2 - shall we got through some of the backgrounds of the Reform candidates? |
1. I did note the word 'some', and i wasn't having a dig!. Surely i have made my feeling clear on the last incumbents.
2. More than happy to unearth the work experiance, such as it is, of reform candidates what fun we will have i'm sure!
i'd imagine most of them spent it lost in a bermuda triangle of leadenhall market Booze/ Latvian whores and drugs. [Post edited 6 Jul 9:48]
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| General Election Thread on 09:48 - Jul 6 with 1759 views | hubble |
Agree 100% - extremely concerning that that absolute charlatan Vallance has been given a role by Starmer. Expert? My God, expert in total effing codswallop. Dangerous character.
For me Starmer's picks are a very strange mix of the actually, possibly decent, like Timpson, and the downright scary, like Vallance, and the goggle-eyed nasalist, Miliband, who is primed to take us into the literal dark ages with his manic Net-zero zeal. |  |
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| General Election Thread on 09:49 - Jul 6 with 1759 views | Northernr |
Ah well, that'll serve me right I guess.
Off to the Crown.
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| General Election Thread on 10:19 - Jul 6 with 1634 views | Northernr |
| General Election Thread on 09:51 - Jul 6 by Discodroids |
If i time my run just right on the phillips perfect draft machine this afternoon i should wake just in time to see ricky's Raiders get ironed out by Ponga's Newcastle knights by 80+points 6am sunday mormning , covered in my own vomitus.
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| General Election Thread on 11:13 - Jul 6 with 1523 views | Sonofpugwash |
| General Election Thread on 09:48 - Jul 6 by hubble |
Agree 100% - extremely concerning that that absolute charlatan Vallance has been given a role by Starmer. Expert? My God, expert in total effing codswallop. Dangerous character.
For me Starmer's picks are a very strange mix of the actually, possibly decent, like Timpson, and the downright scary, like Vallance, and the goggle-eyed nasalist, Miliband, who is primed to take us into the literal dark ages with his manic Net-zero zeal. |
Lammy already playing the race card and Rayner a walking advert for Primark. |  |
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| General Election Thread on 11:18 - Jul 6 with 1517 views | Watford_Ranger |
| General Election Thread on 09:48 - Jul 6 by hubble |
Agree 100% - extremely concerning that that absolute charlatan Vallance has been given a role by Starmer. Expert? My God, expert in total effing codswallop. Dangerous character.
For me Starmer's picks are a very strange mix of the actually, possibly decent, like Timpson, and the downright scary, like Vallance, and the goggle-eyed nasalist, Miliband, who is primed to take us into the literal dark ages with his manic Net-zero zeal. |
I don’t think selecting people with decades of experience in their field for these roles is a bad thing. Particularly so considering who they’re inheriting from. |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 11:24 - Jul 6 with 1481 views | Watford_Ranger |
| General Election Thread on 09:33 - Jul 6 by Northernr |
Didn't he win his constituency by 11,500 votes? |
After a pretty grim campaign against him from a seasoned grifter making up any old bollocks with no accountability. With so much to fix there’s not going to be much time to dwell on the integrity of candidates, particularly those who lost, but I don’t see any way it won’t be repeated and better organised next time given it works and there’s no downside for these people in doing what they do. | | | |
| General Election Thread on 11:25 - Jul 6 with 1476 views | SydneyRs |
| General Election Thread on 07:57 - Jul 6 by Ned_Kennedys |
What’s that got to do with anything?
Just saying. |
Media w@nkfest over a party with less seats than the Shinners possibly a little overdone was I guess my point. | | | |
| General Election Thread on 11:26 - Jul 6 with 1475 views | 222gers |
| General Election Thread on 09:33 - Jul 6 by Discodroids |
Far be it of me to defend the previous collective of Shinning path ghouls that we were shackled to for the past 14 years. Yet if the below is correct, it doesn't scream to me a polarity drive of highly seasoned hyperbeings, more a phalanx of sawdust caesers who will be found most wanting facing the void which has been left before them by the previous Tory government.
I wish them gods speed with the herculean task they face as it's a job i wouldnt wish on my worst enemy.
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Wes Streeting did some snow clearing. |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 11:30 - Jul 6 with 1463 views | SydneyRs |
Surely any cabinet that doesn't contain the likes of Johnson, Dorries, Truss, Patel, Braverman, Hancock etc, etc can only be a positive.
As someone else said on another platform earlier, wouldn't it be nice for politics to become boring again to the point where we don't really notice it that much? | | | |
| General Election Thread on 11:40 - Jul 6 with 1421 views | HAYESBOY |
| General Election Thread on 09:33 - Jul 6 by Discodroids |
Far be it of me to defend the previous collective of Shinning path ghouls that we were shackled to for the past 14 years. Yet if the below is correct, it doesn't scream to me a polarity drive of highly seasoned hyperbeings, more a phalanx of sawdust caesers who will be found most wanting facing the void which has been left before them by the previous Tory government.
I wish them gods speed with the herculean task they face as it's a job i wouldnt wish on my worst enemy.
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I mean it looks funny, but Starmer as Senior Lawer - He was head of the CPS.
Lammy, Minor US Attorney - He was the first UK black man to go to Havard Law School.
Yvette Copper - None? She has been economic policy advisors to Bill Clinton, John Smith and Harriet Harman. Chief economic writer for the Independent.
Also I would rather have these backgrounds listed as opposed to the previous lot just having ETON as their experience. [Post edited 6 Jul 22:02]
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| General Election Thread on 11:41 - Jul 6 with 1412 views | queensparker |
Fk Michael Gove, my new local MP Georgia Gould (Queens Park and Maida Vale) is cut from the right cloth
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| General Election Thread on 11:44 - Jul 6 with 1399 views | HAYESBOY |
| General Election Thread on 11:41 - Jul 6 by queensparker |
Fk Michael Gove, my new local MP Georgia Gould (Queens Park and Maida Vale) is cut from the right cloth
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| General Election Thread on 11:52 - Jul 6 with 1371 views | Discodroids |
| General Election Thread on 11:26 - Jul 6 by 222gers |
Wes Streeting did some snow clearing. |
Talking of which i notice that mine and wes's shared local boozer back in the early 2000's, The Redhouse Pub on Redbridge roundabout, is to be demolished by Galliard Homes and to be mutated into a souless GDR erich honecker plattenbau for 150 rabbit hutches.
Great. [Post edited 6 Jul 11:54]
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| General Election Thread on 11:53 - Jul 6 with 1366 views | Discodroids |
| General Election Thread on 11:52 - Jul 6 by Discodroids |
Talking of which i notice that mine and wes's shared local boozer back in the early 2000's, The Redhouse Pub on Redbridge roundabout, is to be demolished by Galliard Homes and to be mutated into a souless GDR erich honecker plattenbau for 150 rabbit hutches.
Great. [Post edited 6 Jul 11:54]
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'Also I would rather have these backgrounds listed as opposed to the previous lot just having ETON as their experience.'
Of that i think we can all agree. | |
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| General Election Thread on 12:11 - Jul 6 with 1307 views | hubble |
| General Election Thread on 11:41 - Jul 6 by queensparker |
Fk Michael Gove, my new local MP Georgia Gould (Queens Park and Maida Vale) is cut from the right cloth
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My new MP too... well, well, well. Our previous incumbent - when we were North Westminster - was Karen Buck, who, to give her her due, was a good local MP, very approachable and lived around the corner. I hope Georgia proves as capable. | |
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| General Election Thread on 12:32 - Jul 6 with 1250 views | queensparker |
| General Election Thread on 12:11 - Jul 6 by hubble |
My new MP too... well, well, well. Our previous incumbent - when we were North Westminster - was Karen Buck, who, to give her her due, was a good local MP, very approachable and lived around the corner. I hope Georgia proves as capable. |
It’s weird, wasn’t aware they’d fiddled around with the local boundaries until this week. Our old ward MP was Sarah Teather who was good, then Dawn Butler who we never saw.
Now poky Kensal Green has been absorbed into a posher constituency looking forward to seeing what happens. Hopefully Georgia can level all the empty flats around Westfield for a new ground within a couple of years | | | |
| General Election Thread on 12:34 - Jul 6 with 1238 views | hubble |
| General Election Thread on 11:18 - Jul 6 by Watford_Ranger |
I don’t think selecting people with decades of experience in their field for these roles is a bad thing. Particularly so considering who they’re inheriting from. |
Vallance has decades of experience of getting things completely wrong. And I'm not sure what qualifies Miliband to be the new 'secretary of state for energy security and net zero'. Other than that, like his Marxist father, he is an ideologue.
Miliband in charge 'energy security'. It's like some kind of weird joke. You're not wrong about the previous administration though, absolutely stuffed with complete imbeciles.
I agree with Sydney when he says "wouldn't it be nice for politics to become boring again to the point where we don't really notice it that much" - but that requires people who actually know what they're doing - and who are free from vested interests, with no desire for self-promotion. Neither Vallance or Miliband fit that bill.
Reeves may or may not prove a competent Chancellor of the Exchequer. Lammy as Foreign Secretary... well, I guess we'll see. I have a modicum of faith in Yvette Cooper as Home secretary.
To attain power in the world's 6th largest economy - as Labour under Starmer have done - and when The Sun endorses you - you know that deals have been done that are nothing to do with the promises Starmer made in his speech outside No. 10.
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