BFG 21:22 - Jul 26 with 6924 views | Hooparoo | Anyone know what Toni’s situation is? Sounds like he did ok at Koln so I assume they’ll want him back. God knows we need a big ugly bastard at the back but I doubt we can afford him anymore. He’s been putting lots of happy photos on his Instagram account so seems like he’s happy to go home. | |
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BFG on 10:51 - Jul 27 with 1562 views | rsonist |
BFG on 05:15 - Jul 27 by ParkRoyalR | I was told those two were on 25k and 27k respectively, I hope that's not the case. Either way, presume Warburton will need Leistner off the wage bill to do the work he really needs to do in the transfer window. McClaren's legacy a really lazy signing similar to JFH signing Washington - no real scouting or strategy - just short termism we need a big lump or he's banged in a few just what we need type player recruitment, which hopefully seems behind us. |
Leistner is McClaren's legacy now. Oh-kay. I know no one ever has and ever will want to hear it but ftr it forever does my nut this cobblers little fairy tale you all repeat to yourselves pinning absolutely everything on him as if there was no evidence of strategic continuity before or since. | | | |
BFG on 10:53 - Jul 27 with 1551 views | Myke | Chuck high balls into the box and Toni will head them out again all day long (like v Millwall) But Centre-halves, like goalkeepers, are supposed to have evolved into playing out from the back/ defence splitting pass players, which is why defenders like Barbet will always be more in demand than Leistner. I actually don't think Barbet is that good (assist to Eze excepted) and from a strictly defensive perspective, Toni would probably prevent more goals than him over the course of the season, but like I said, a lot more expected of defenders nowadays than Row Z. Academic anyway, because Leistner won't come back. I think Koln might buy him for a nominal fee if they can free up some cash. In the meantime we must move on and secure an equally dominant, but more mobile ,replacement. | | | |
BFG on 11:29 - Jul 27 with 1441 views | CiderwithRsie |
BFG on 07:32 - Jul 27 by ozexile | We do seem to get a lot of this with our foreign players. What else do they want. Great wage, living in London! |
People on here say this sort of thing all the time, but as someone who moved out, I still love and miss London but I'm not sure it's such a draw as you all think. It's crowded, dirty, expensive, with terrible pubs in the centre. Culturally and for entertainment it's one of the greatest places on earth but how much time does a pro footballer have for all that (or even care - not everyone wants to spend their day off in the National Gallery). At least half of what it's great at is utterly b*ggered by Covid atm too. Leistner signed for us from Berlin, I presume he lived there. Plenty of people might find London disappointing after Berlin. | | | |
BFG on 11:32 - Jul 27 with 1435 views | ParkRoyalR |
BFG on 10:51 - Jul 27 by rsonist | Leistner is McClaren's legacy now. Oh-kay. I know no one ever has and ever will want to hear it but ftr it forever does my nut this cobblers little fairy tale you all repeat to yourselves pinning absolutely everything on him as if there was no evidence of strategic continuity before or since. |
Agree, root cause of our issues is lack of long-term strategic planning and appointing 'big name' Managers obviously reflects that, as does being compromised into giving them what's left of the cheque book and them making panic signings, altho it seems Warburton used his time out of the game to good effect and had some go-to players he knew would do a job for us and keep us in the Championship. | | | |
BFG on 11:46 - Jul 27 with 1389 views | ozexile |
BFG on 11:29 - Jul 27 by CiderwithRsie | People on here say this sort of thing all the time, but as someone who moved out, I still love and miss London but I'm not sure it's such a draw as you all think. It's crowded, dirty, expensive, with terrible pubs in the centre. Culturally and for entertainment it's one of the greatest places on earth but how much time does a pro footballer have for all that (or even care - not everyone wants to spend their day off in the National Gallery). At least half of what it's great at is utterly b*ggered by Covid atm too. Leistner signed for us from Berlin, I presume he lived there. Plenty of people might find London disappointing after Berlin. |
I just find it odd. It's not forever, it's for 3 or so years. I personally love seeing new countries and cultures. So I find it hard to understand someone not liking it who is paid 20k a week. Each to their own. | | | |
BFG on 12:23 - Jul 27 with 1347 views | Myke |
BFG on 11:46 - Jul 27 by ozexile | I just find it odd. It's not forever, it's for 3 or so years. I personally love seeing new countries and cultures. So I find it hard to understand someone not liking it who is paid 20k a week. Each to their own. |
I remember Ian Rush going to Juventus back in the eighties and couldn't settle at all even though I'm sure he was on big money for that time. His team-mates said he made no effort to learn Italian, even though he'd had the whole of the previous season to prepare. After just one season he was back at Anfield. I think in general, foreign players settle in the Uk better than British (and Irish) players settle abroad. Especially now with society in general and football in particular being so cosmopolitan, you would think it would be easier to settle into a different country and culture. To be fair to Toni, he was very settled in his first year when he was skipper, so it wasn't really a settling in thing. As soon as Warburton arrived he made it clear Toni was surplus to requirements, so you can't really blame him for wanting to go home, especially if the wife wants to too. | | | |
BFG on 12:40 - Jul 27 with 1313 views | Juzzie |
BFG on 12:23 - Jul 27 by Myke | I remember Ian Rush going to Juventus back in the eighties and couldn't settle at all even though I'm sure he was on big money for that time. His team-mates said he made no effort to learn Italian, even though he'd had the whole of the previous season to prepare. After just one season he was back at Anfield. I think in general, foreign players settle in the Uk better than British (and Irish) players settle abroad. Especially now with society in general and football in particular being so cosmopolitan, you would think it would be easier to settle into a different country and culture. To be fair to Toni, he was very settled in his first year when he was skipper, so it wasn't really a settling in thing. As soon as Warburton arrived he made it clear Toni was surplus to requirements, so you can't really blame him for wanting to go home, especially if the wife wants to too. |
My dad's workmate from 30 odd years ago used to go to school with him and he said he wasn't the sharpest tool in the box. Apparently he had tins of baked beans sent to him and one for the reasons he couldn't settle was because "it was like living in a foreign country". | | | |
BFG on 14:54 - Jul 27 with 1181 views | Myke |
BFG on 12:40 - Jul 27 by Juzzie | My dad's workmate from 30 odd years ago used to go to school with him and he said he wasn't the sharpest tool in the box. Apparently he had tins of baked beans sent to him and one for the reasons he couldn't settle was because "it was like living in a foreign country". |
Ha! I think he blamed that quote on Kenny Dalglish taking the pee! I worked in Butlins one summer many moons ago. My supervisor's favourite quote for anybody caught slacking was 'Get moving, it's not a holiday camp you know' It never got old (for him) | | | |
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