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Great site here for tracking projections and polling for the Presidential, House and Senate elections over the next month. A wealth of info on each state in each race.
Sorry to hear about the abuse you and your family have suffered.
Like yourself I try and give the politics a swerve on LFW now, because no one really reads what each other say anyway, it's more about the rant.
I don't know your background or the circumstances around it but it's pretty sickening, and quite frankly an embarrassment for this kind of thing to happen to a well written chap like yourself in a country like the UK.
BREXIT and Trump are both examples of post truth politics, and it seems you have taken the brunt.
Not all Trump voters are racist, but all racists vote Trump. Same goes for Brexit.
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Bazza if you can give me an example of a national vote here or in the US that hasn't been about post truth politics, I'll buy you a bag of apples. Good organic ones at that.
In fact what is non post truth politics and where can I get me some of it?
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US Elections 2016 on 16:16 - Oct 5 with 4411 views
I cannot wait for this election to end. Total disgrace that 320 million people in the US and these are the two choices for president. I would say I am neutral in my party affiliation. I tend to identify with Republicans on economic issues and Democrats on social issues. I can't bring myself to vote for either of these clowns.
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US Elections 2016 on 16:27 - Oct 5 with 4396 views
Who said that people voted leave JUST because they were racists or anti immigration? I think you'll find it's only self pitying leave voters who think that, because they like to think they're being picked on. Most remainers just pointed out that using nazi propaganda with immigrants on posters was trying to put fear into people to make them think that was the only issue and for SOME it worked. (Some - not all, just to be clear)
I still find it amusing that these leave voters, who voted leave for a variety of reasons, don't want any say in how we progress from here. Presumably they think the government knows their reason for voting leave already despite it being such varied reasons. Our elected government had no policies for leaving the EU when elected but we're now supposed to proceed under their control however they see fit. That will really show the elite who's boss!
Re-Trump he seems to irresponsible to lead the USA.
Quite a few people I know posted on Facebook comments to the effect that every Leave voter was a racist, xenophobic, anti-immigration w@nker. All 27million of them. I heard many similar reactions at the time via other methods. A lot of venom was directed at Leave voters with a very narrow accusation.
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US Elections 2016 on 16:56 - Oct 5 with 4356 views
US Elections 2016 on 16:08 - Oct 5 by 1BobbyHazell
Bazza if you can give me an example of a national vote here or in the US that hasn't been about post truth politics, I'll buy you a bag of apples. Good organic ones at that.
In fact what is non post truth politics and where can I get me some of it?
True.
No apples for me : (
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US Elections 2016 on 17:08 - Oct 5 with 4343 views
Quite a few people I know posted on Facebook comments to the effect that every Leave voter was a racist, xenophobic, anti-immigration w@nker. All 27million of them. I heard many similar reactions at the time via other methods. A lot of venom was directed at Leave voters with a very narrow accusation.
Well I can't account for the people you know, the people I know were evenly split leave/remain and didn't suddenly decided that the others were racists or whatever after all it's not worth losing friends over.
I find it interesting that you use the phrase"to the effect that" suggesting it was never explicitly stated. If I was to use the same logic to brand someone a racist as their comments were effectively (but not explicitly) racist, I wonder how long it would take for someone to jump to their defence saying I was "playing the race card".
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US Elections 2016 on 17:50 - Oct 5 with 4311 views
Quite a few people I know posted on Facebook comments to the effect that every Leave voter was a racist, xenophobic, anti-immigration w@nker. All 27million of them. I heard many similar reactions at the time via other methods. A lot of venom was directed at Leave voters with a very narrow accusation.
27 million?
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US Elections 2016 on 18:10 - Oct 5 with 4298 views
Interesting that vast swathes of the US shows solid and strong hold for the Republicans whilst the only solid and strong for the Democrats is in areas you might term ''The Metropolitan elite'.
Would like to see Trump do it, for no other reason than it feels good to see the status quo getting a kicking. The times they are a changin.
Dear lord...
Whilst globalisation absolutely has it's flaws, with the impact had on the local blue collar working man under appreciated by governing elites, it does appear that vast swathes of the electorate in western countries are very willing to through the baby out with the bathwater at the minute.
This appears to be due to some vague, confused sense of desiring "change", with little or no understanding of what "change" they will see in the event someone like Trump gets in.
Clinton, whilst absolutely having blurred the line between public and private interests to a level bordering on corrupt, and almost certainly guilty of outright lying, is at least competent and possesses a deep understanding of international affairs and economics.
Trump is a snake oil salesman peddling a "solution" to an ill that will almost certainly kill the patient he's claiming he'll cure. What the US (and the world) needs now is intelligent, sensible modifications to the framework of globilised trade, movement of labour and movement of capital. Sadly, this is complicated, time consuming and often invisible to Joe Public.
What it does not need is meaningless rhetoric that fits on a T-shirt or baseball cap. This comment applies to Labour and Corbyn and UKIP and Farage too, btw.
Trump's isolationist, protectionist dribble will send the US deficit and debt soaring. His economic policies put forward simply don't add up and cannot be funded without the above happening. And, like his businesses, it won't be him left picking up the tab; it'll be the man on the street.
As has recently been proven in South America, when a country turns inwards (often driven by a charismatic salesman light on substance), the living standards of the poorer get worse, not better. No surprise then that this continent is now opening its borders and encouraging trade and investment from the rest of the world. They've been down the road Trump is driving towards.
Globalisation has its flaws, but almost all studies of western, developed nations, show it benefits the poorest in society by bringing down the cost of living through increasing supply. When a country turns inwards, competitiveness in private business reduces, supply decreases (due to reduced external supply), cost of living increases. National companies can't pay their workforce enough to offset this without becoming unprofitable (due to reduced demand - if you don't trade with the world they won't trade with you, and that's a big market to lose). You end up with GDP falling. That often coincides with increased unemployment (note the US and UK unemployment rate is under 5%....which, relatively speaking, isn't that bad).
Absolutely, western countries embraced globalisation and specifically China with open arms a bit too much and too readily and did not consider the impact to the small proportion of its national workforce which would be made redundant as their employers became uncompetitive and so folded. But the flaw here is around failure to educate, train and upskill your own population, and in the details of trade agreements, not with globalisation as a whole. In the same way, immigration isn't the problem - it's entirely necessary for all national economies with a birth rate that doesn't match the replacement rate required to grow the economy - the issue is integration. Again, a complete failing by political leaders, not evidence globalisation is bad.
Trump's isolationist rhetoric will enormously harm the lives of those in the rustbelt banging the drum for him. And, given he bears all the hallmarks of a psychopath, he won't care.
The other major issue, which again shows a complete lack of understanding of cause and effect, is around safety of US citizens (at home and abroad). Trump could seriously put this at risk. His courting of an expansionist Russia is bizarre. How is it in the interests of the US? In Syria, Russia are in the process of fanning the flames of Islamic militancy and terrorism towards the west. And Trump seems in favour of this?!
Trumps view that the US shouldn't act as the international policeman anymore will simply allow Islamic extremism, through state control, to grow, which, combined with a resurgent Russia, doesn't exactly seem in the US public's best interests when it comes to national safety.
And this certainly has worrying ramifications for countries like Britain. Whether we like it or not, the US play a huge role in ensuring our safety (home and abroad) through their role in international politics. If they pull back, who fills that role?
Equally, if they turn their back on globalisation and free trade, at a time when we're leaving the EU, who do we trade with? Of course, not all our trade nor all our safety is reliant on Uncle Sam, but I don't see how US isolationism and trade protectionism in any way benefits us (or other Western countries).
But, you know, "change"! Yay!
Out of the mild frying pan into the burning inferno.
No one should want Trump to win this election in the US or abroad.
(p.s. note how I didn't refer to his comments about women, Mexicans, etc. Those are all abhorrent, of course, and what the media tend to focus on, but the point I'm trying to make is it's his economic and foreign policy, which are most concerning and will be most detrimental to those who appear like they will vote for him.)
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US Elections 2016 on 18:52 - Oct 5 with 4265 views
Well I can't account for the people you know, the people I know were evenly split leave/remain and didn't suddenly decided that the others were racists or whatever after all it's not worth losing friends over.
I find it interesting that you use the phrase"to the effect that" suggesting it was never explicitly stated. If I was to use the same logic to brand someone a racist as their comments were effectively (but not explicitly) racist, I wonder how long it would take for someone to jump to their defence saying I was "playing the race card".
It was actually stated ("as such" wasnt a supposition, more fact) by quite a few people and one person actually accused every single leave voter to be racist etc.
I didnt respond as tensions were high enough as it was as wasnt worth getting embroiled into an argument about but to suggest millions of people are rasict is out of order.
Whereas the shy retiring, bullied in many ways, leave voters just called the remain voters cowards and accused them of being ashamed to be British. The quiet and passive majority who contributed to the rise in hate against immigrants and even a poster on this board, perhaps you should pat yourself on your back for that.
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US Elections 2016 on 21:57 - Oct 5 with 4133 views
Interesting that vast swathes of the US shows solid and strong hold for the Republicans whilst the only solid and strong for the Democrats is in areas you might term ''The Metropolitan elite'.
Would like to see Trump do it, for no other reason than it feels good to see the status quo getting a kicking. The times they are a changin.
stevec, I know you are concerned about small businesses from your previous post about the NHS.
You should be aware that ripping off small businesses is a long-standing Trump practice.
Air hostess clique
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US Elections 2016 on 10:13 - Oct 6 with 2791 views
In the name of Dickie Davis Line of white Fever why do celebs do this??
It Never Works and has the opposite effect as demonstrated in abundant Clarity in previous elections and referendums. Don Cheadle coming over like christopher walken with King Tito's Glove in King of New York , and Robert Downey with his deaths head stare into the Camera AKA the Keyboard player from Sparks, cuts nae shite with people.
It might work in America but imo over here, most people I know would tell celebs to concentrate on selling their endorsed Fat Free grillers on QVC and We'll make up our own minds.
The Duke Of New York. A-Number One.
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US Elections 2016 on 10:27 - Oct 6 with 2757 views
Loving the hysteria on here, it's like Brexit revisited. Trump and Putin cutting a swathe through the Middle East, can't wait meself.
FTSE 100, FTSE 250, pensions, investments, all going through the roof, record highs. Got that fckin wrong too then eh?
Oh yeah, the pound has dropped of course. Probably add about 10 quid to a long weekend in Europe. What a Bummer.
Personally, since most of my business subscriptions and services are charged in USD the collapse of Sterling is costing me hundreds of pounds per month. That's turned a small profit into a loss.
100% of people who drink water will die.
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US Elections 2016 on 11:01 - Oct 6 with 2728 views
In the name of Dickie Davis Line of white Fever why do celebs do this??
It Never Works and has the opposite effect as demonstrated in abundant Clarity in previous elections and referendums. Don Cheadle coming over like christopher walken with King Tito's Glove in King of New York , and Robert Downey with his deaths head stare into the Camera AKA the Keyboard player from Sparks, cuts nae shite with people.
It might work in America but imo over here, most people I know would tell celebs to concentrate on selling their endorsed Fat Free grillers on QVC and We'll make up our own minds.
Disco, don't disagree with your view on these celeb campaigns; they're condescending and cringe worthy. But any thoughts on my longer post on Trumps actual economic and foreign policy? As someone who I have got the impression cares deeply about the blue collar worker, do you really think the billionaire Donald Trump gives two sh*ts about them?? Do you really think he has the wherewithal to actually help them? Clinton may be very unlikeable too, and not particularly interested in the working man either, but she, like most of the economic consensus do realise neoliberal economics went too far, and that a return to true liberalism, which has an in built requirement to consider the impact and potential harm caused to populations, is required? Do you agree?
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US Elections 2016 on 11:07 - Oct 6 with 2714 views
Disco, don't disagree with your view on these celeb campaigns; they're condescending and cringe worthy. But any thoughts on my longer post on Trumps actual economic and foreign policy? As someone who I have got the impression cares deeply about the blue collar worker, do you really think the billionaire Donald Trump gives two sh*ts about them?? Do you really think he has the wherewithal to actually help them? Clinton may be very unlikeable too, and not particularly interested in the working man either, but she, like most of the economic consensus do realise neoliberal economics went too far, and that a return to true liberalism, which has an in built requirement to consider the impact and potential harm caused to populations, is required? Do you agree?
Imo Hunter If Hillary wins, it's still the same old establishment cud chewing shit.she's been around longer than that box of vesta chow mein at the mini mart. And, if im being honest, mega-wealthy Trump is hardly anti-establishment. Once all his CEO mates set him straight on just why it costs $25,000 for a single rivet on an F22 raptor he'll be as 'anti-establishment' as Obama or Bush.
Choosing from the two candidates is like playing Pass the parcel with a flaming bag of tape worm threaded Dog shit . Who ever ends up with the parcel is covered in filth.
The Duke Of New York. A-Number One.
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US Elections 2016 on 11:08 - Oct 6 with 2707 views
Personally, since most of my business subscriptions and services are charged in USD the collapse of Sterling is costing me hundreds of pounds per month. That's turned a small profit into a loss.
Yeah, but black passports are coming back, so swings and roundabouts.
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US Elections 2016 on 11:12 - Oct 6 with 2708 views
Firstly, is it worth that if he brings complete fiscal ruin to a country and it's people?
Secondly, I think you want to believe that Clive. All evidence in his dealings as a business to now, in terms of how he treats small business suppliers, employees and communities, that he doesn't give two sh*ts about people, least so the rust belt of America. Whilst we rarely agree on politics in general, you are too intelligent to fall for his rhetoric. He's a snake oil salesman. What do they say? Actions speak louder than words. His past actions speak volumes about his interest in the blue collar worker.
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US Elections 2016 on 12:17 - Oct 6 with 3179 views
Nah, mate. You can't claim ignorance as a reason for not believing me about how he treats people when you earlier say you do believe him about looking after rustbelt America. This is countless evidence from reputable sources like The Economist, The New Statesman, court papers, and directly from the individual affected themselves. It's not "liberal hysteria". He's treated small suppliers, employees, and communities like sh*t consistently over decades in the name of big buck. Why he suddenly will behave in the best interests of the blue collar man, is beyond me. Why anyone should believe him in the face of past actions, is even more beyond me.
And, read my earlier post as to why, economically he could wreak havoc. There's lots of bad he can do.
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