| New blood 12:25 - Jan 27 with 4360 views | fitzochris |
I think it's obvious Hilly will bring new players to the club this week, his resolve aided even more by the fact he got to see his current crop in competitive action on Friday.
Taylor is one realistic name mentioned, but, again, it is a centre half we need.
We may even lose a player or two this week, so that will dictate where we need to strengthen too.
I fully trust Hilly to have the necessary players in mind... But who do we think they are? |  |
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| New blood on 12:43 - Jan 27 with 2861 views | SteTsGoldenBoot |
Jason Taylor would be a great signing, if JK stays i'd push Cav to right back, which would then give the option of playing Joe Raffety as a right wing option.
Not sure if Gareth Owen is fit or has a club yet, but I always thought he was decent.
Could Alan Goodhall be back for a third stint at LB?
I can see Curran and Georgeous being shipped out and a Dele (who seams to have had a very nice Christmas) type option being brought in, as well as a Danny Livesey/Kevin Long type loan signing at CB.
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| New blood on 12:50 - Jan 27 with 2826 views | 442Dale |
| New blood on 12:43 - Jan 27 by SteTsGoldenBoot |
Jason Taylor would be a great signing, if JK stays i'd push Cav to right back, which would then give the option of playing Joe Raffety as a right wing option.
Not sure if Gareth Owen is fit or has a club yet, but I always thought he was decent.
Could Alan Goodhall be back for a third stint at LB?
I can see Curran and Georgeous being shipped out and a Dele (who seams to have had a very nice Christmas) type option being brought in, as well as a Danny Livesey/Kevin Long type loan signing at CB.
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Goodall is a regular at Fleetwood now, not at all sure about Rafferty further forward on the wing either. Taylor would be an excellent signing. |  |
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| New blood on 12:52 - Jan 27 with 2814 views | YadHoDale |
A lot depends on whether anyone comes in with acceptable bids for any of our players.
I can see the following happening:
Someone (Scottish?) coming in for JK.
Jaybo coming in from Rovrum as replacement.
Ashley Grimes moving the other way - he's a very good player, but as when ALF moved, we have cover up front.
Joe Thompson returning as wide right player. One of Donnelly/Curran moving on - or possibly Dele.
As for centre backs - would have Holness back. |  | | |
| New blood on 12:54 - Jan 27 with 2798 views | SaxonDale |
Jason Taylor would be a good direct replacement for Cavanagh, but if Cav stays we can definitely utilise the wages better elsewhere, as Fitzo says starting at CB. Don't really know anything about available players, wouldn't be suprised to see Hill go in for Holness/Stanton though. |  | | |
| New blood on 13:01 - Jan 27 with 2783 views | 442Dale |
| New blood on 12:52 - Jan 27 by YadHoDale |
A lot depends on whether anyone comes in with acceptable bids for any of our players.
I can see the following happening:
Someone (Scottish?) coming in for JK.
Jaybo coming in from Rovrum as replacement.
Ashley Grimes moving the other way - he's a very good player, but as when ALF moved, we have cover up front.
Joe Thompson returning as wide right player. One of Donnelly/Curran moving on - or possibly Dele.
As for centre backs - would have Holness back. |
Kennedy might want to think twice about a move north. Today's Scottish game features Shefki Kuqi playing up front for Hibs. Meanwhile over at Firgrove more talented players ply their trade. | |
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| New blood on 13:22 - Jan 27 with 2735 views | electricblue |
Whats all this about ex players coming in...
Surely there are other players about....
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| New blood on 13:25 - Jan 27 with 2724 views | fitzochris |
| New blood on 13:01 - Jan 27 by 442Dale |
Kennedy might want to think twice about a move north. Today's Scottish game features Shefki Kuqi playing up front for Hibs. Meanwhile over at Firgrove more talented players ply their trade. |
... And a player who couldn't catch at Northampton is a superstar up here.
The argument being, you can flourish in the SPL for a better wage than in L2.
The restructuring up here might make for a better competition too, as of next season, attracting more sponsorship, TV interest and, ergo, cash.
It's a big might, mind you.
The other way of looking at it is JK could sign for Hibs with the chance to get knocked out of the Europa League qualifiers by some Latvian no marks and to play in front of 60,000 just twice a season... The rest of the time playing in front of L2 standard crowds.
Pluses and minuses. | |
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| New blood on 13:37 - Jan 27 with 2696 views | olympicdale |
| New blood on 12:52 - Jan 27 by YadHoDale |
A lot depends on whether anyone comes in with acceptable bids for any of our players.
I can see the following happening:
Someone (Scottish?) coming in for JK.
Jaybo coming in from Rovrum as replacement.
Ashley Grimes moving the other way - he's a very good player, but as when ALF moved, we have cover up front.
Joe Thompson returning as wide right player. One of Donnelly/Curran moving on - or possibly Dele.
As for centre backs - would have Holness back. |
Holness, no thank you, Holness' problem was he needed someone experienced alongside him, bringing him into this side we'd have the same problem as last time, time for some leaders at the back.
I'm not convinced Taylor will be arriving, would love to see it as I think he epitimises Hill's philosophy. |  |
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| New blood on 13:44 - Jan 27 with 2668 views | SaxonDale |
| New blood on 13:37 - Jan 27 by olympicdale |
Holness, no thank you, Holness' problem was he needed someone experienced alongside him, bringing him into this side we'd have the same problem as last time, time for some leaders at the back.
I'm not convinced Taylor will be arriving, would love to see it as I think he epitimises Hill's philosophy. |
Phil Edwards? Admittedly the centre half pairing would be too small but think you're being unfair on Holness, remember he played alongside both McArdle and Dawson-Neither of whom had vast amounts of experience. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| New blood on 13:53 - Jan 27 with 2647 views | olympicdale |
| New blood on 13:44 - Jan 27 by SaxonDale |
Phil Edwards? Admittedly the centre half pairing would be too small but think you're being unfair on Holness, remember he played alongside both McArdle and Dawson-Neither of whom had vast amounts of experience. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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Dawson was older beyond his years though, he was an old head on young shoulders, Holness could certainly head a ball, into the main stand though I'll give him that, those in that stand would need to be wary should he return. | |
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| New blood on 14:00 - Jan 27 with 2621 views | 442Dale |
| New blood on 13:53 - Jan 27 by olympicdale |
Dawson was older beyond his years though, he was an old head on young shoulders, Holness could certainly head a ball, into the main stand though I'll give him that, those in that stand would need to be wary should he return. |
One of our most consistent players during a season where we finished in our highest ever league position. | |
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| New blood on 14:00 - Jan 27 with 2620 views | SuddenLad |
One of the criticisms aimed at Coleman was his persistence in signing ex-Accy players and he got a lot of stick for it.
Would KH get the same amount of stick by doing the same thing with ex-Dale players ?
I'm not sure, but any attempts to re-sign the likes of Holness, Stanton, Goodall or Joe Thompson would surely attract criticism. |  |
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| New blood on 14:01 - Jan 27 with 2620 views | SalwaDale |
| New blood on 14:00 - Jan 27 by SuddenLad |
One of the criticisms aimed at Coleman was his persistence in signing ex-Accy players and he got a lot of stick for it.
Would KH get the same amount of stick by doing the same thing with ex-Dale players ?
I'm not sure, but any attempts to re-sign the likes of Holness, Stanton, Goodall or Joe Thompson would surely attract criticism. |
No, because that would be players WE already know. That wasn't the case with Coleman at Dale (or Hill at t'Barnsley for that matter.) |  |
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| New blood on 14:09 - Jan 27 with 2587 views | olympicdale |
| New blood on 14:00 - Jan 27 by 442Dale |
One of our most consistent players during a season where we finished in our highest ever league position. |
alongside Dawson yes, my point exactly, he was strong with him, but once Dawson left he was a shadow of the player, never took on the mantle of leader. | |
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| New blood on 14:28 - Jan 27 with 2541 views | mikehunt |
'Appen he could make a cheeky bid for Vaz Te. |  |
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| New blood on 14:49 - Jan 27 with 2492 views | SteTsGoldenBoot |
| New blood on 14:00 - Jan 27 by SuddenLad |
One of the criticisms aimed at Coleman was his persistence in signing ex-Accy players and he got a lot of stick for it.
Would KH get the same amount of stick by doing the same thing with ex-Dale players ?
I'm not sure, but any attempts to re-sign the likes of Holness, Stanton, Goodall or Joe Thompson would surely attract criticism. |
I think it would be ok, as really at the minute we are only planning for three months, so getting tried and trusted players would be the wise thing to do.
Long term, probably not.
I do think that Hilly will have a wider spectrum to recruit from than JC appeared to have. | |
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| New blood on 15:03 - Jan 27 with 2456 views | SuddenLad |
| New blood on 14:01 - Jan 27 by SalwaDale |
No, because that would be players WE already know. That wasn't the case with Coleman at Dale (or Hill at t'Barnsley for that matter.) |
But they were all players that Coleman already knew in the same way. Just as when KH was at Baaaarnsley, he turned his attention to players HE already knew to bag Wiseman, Done, Perkins, Dagnall, Higginbotham, Kennedy et. al. They were all largely unknown to the supporters.
The fans at Baaarnsley seem to think that contributed to his downfall, showing that he knew little or nothing outside Spotland and couldn't attract the necessary quality. | |
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| New blood on 15:10 - Jan 27 with 2435 views | 442Dale |
| New blood on 14:09 - Jan 27 by olympicdale |
alongside Dawson yes, my point exactly, he was strong with him, but once Dawson left he was a shadow of the player, never took on the mantle of leader. |
He was equally impressive at the end of the season alongside Josh Thompson.
It all started to go wrong for Holness when unnecessary doubt was raised around his position during pre-season under Eyre. | |
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| New blood on 15:19 - Jan 27 with 2410 views | sweetcorn |
Would probably shy away from the old dale guard and move onto some new options. Stanton did however have a great game on boxing day, however don't think he'll be nearly as good as he once was. Hill probably has players in mind and time will tell.
Gareth Owen could be a good option, was once highly rated and think he falls into the broken toy niche keith hill loves so bad. |  |
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| New blood on 15:38 - Jan 27 with 2386 views | zxcvbnm |
Matty done? Not included again by flicker |  |
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| New blood on 16:04 - Jan 27 with 2325 views | SalwaDale |
| New blood on 15:03 - Jan 27 by SuddenLad |
But they were all players that Coleman already knew in the same way. Just as when KH was at Baaaarnsley, he turned his attention to players HE already knew to bag Wiseman, Done, Perkins, Dagnall, Higginbotham, Kennedy et. al. They were all largely unknown to the supporters.
The fans at Baaarnsley seem to think that contributed to his downfall, showing that he knew little or nothing outside Spotland and couldn't attract the necessary quality. |
Think you are missing my point. Plucking players from a managers old club is one thing, but bringing succesful players back to a club completely different.
That said, I expect Hill to look a little further afield. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| New blood on 16:15 - Jan 27 with 2301 views | boromat |
In one of Hills interviews he was adamant and very enthusiastic about signing players he hasn't worked with before. He said there may be one or two we've seen before.
So if Haworth is one and Taylor is the other we're looking at two brand new signings. I would expect a couple of the signings to be loan signings from the leagues above. |  |
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| New blood on 16:41 - Jan 27 with 2233 views | JorDale |
Would love jason taylor and james tunacliffe !!
Not sure mcnulty is a regular as barnsley anymore? was very impressed when he came at the start of the season. center half.
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| New blood on 17:02 - Jan 27 with 2171 views | olympicdale |
| New blood on 16:04 - Jan 27 by SalwaDale |
Think you are missing my point. Plucking players from a managers old club is one thing, but bringing succesful players back to a club completely different.
That said, I expect Hill to look a little further afield. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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I think its the case of bringing in former players simply for the sake of it, fans scoff at, as has been the case with many a player under Coleman. | |
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| New blood on 17:55 - Jan 27 with 2090 views | R442D |
Taylor's ideal, defiantly a good signing if we can.
Be great if we can keep Kennedy too - any new word on that?
Tom Kennedy perhaps?
Wiseman?
Old players I know, but they know Hill and are proven full backs, good going forward too.
I hear we're in for a lad from Stockport/Wycombe.
Another midfielder and possible winger too I think -probably loans from Championship sides.
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