| Options for West Brom... 15:29 - Oct 2 with 4608 views | The_Mole |
Go to the Hawthornes with a system that works and implement it from the start - not the 75th minute!
We clearly don't have the defenders at present, so take the game to the Baggies with an attack minded side...
That means, playing Faurlin, Granero and Park as a midfield 3 and allowing Hoilett and Taarabt free roles to support Zamora?
I'd also have to question Cesar's performances of late - bar the Chelsea game he has looked very nervy and last night was simply embarrassing! If Green was dropped for less, then maybe Cesar needs a spell on the sidelines to re-think his game-plan?! |  | | |  |
| Options for West Brom... on 15:32 - Oct 2 with 3640 views | Watford_Ranger |
What did Cesar do wrong? I blame the defence far more than him for either goal and he made one excellent save in particular as well as looking a hundred times more assured than Green. |  | | |
| Options for West Brom... on 15:38 - Oct 2 with 3618 views | SpiritofGregory |
Green has dropped clangers, Cesar has not. You can't blame the keeper for our comical defending.
I noticed Mackie and Green both bitching on the bench. |  | | |
| Options for West Brom... on 15:48 - Oct 2 with 3604 views | Northernr |
| Options for West Brom... on 15:38 - Oct 2 by SpiritofGregory |
Green has dropped clangers, Cesar has not. You can't blame the keeper for our comical defending.
I noticed Mackie and Green both bitching on the bench. |
How could you tell what they were saying? |  | | |
| Options for West Brom... on 15:50 - Oct 2 with 3596 views | DesertBoot |
Yes let's call Cesar "embarrassing". Good grief |  |
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| Options for West Brom... on 15:52 - Oct 2 with 3593 views | fakekerby |
Cesar, really? I don't think he did a thing wrong. The second goal was deflected off M'Bia and the first he had no chance with.
I do agree on a switch to 4-5-1 that allows Hoilett and Adel to play. Doubt we'll see it though.
I originally thought SWP/Park at the same time was horses for courses, but now i'm not so sure.
I think it'll be 4-4-2 again, with one or two bizarre player selections. | | | |
| Options for West Brom... on 16:05 - Oct 2 with 3569 views | simmo |
Cesar's save against Vaz Te 2nd half was excellent |  |
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| Options for West Brom... on 16:09 - Oct 2 with 3553 views | WeaverQPR |
Pack the midfield and pray for a point. Could you stick Derry inbetween Faurlin and Granero and go Park on the right Taarabt on the left? big bob up top. |  |
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| Options for West Brom... on 16:16 - Oct 2 with 3539 views | robith |
Go for the 4-5-1 that kept us up. Bobby up top, Adel and Hoilett cutting in |  | | |
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| Options for West Brom... on 16:18 - Oct 2 with 3530 views | The_Mole |
| Options for West Brom... on 15:50 - Oct 2 by DesertBoot |
Yes let's call Cesar "embarrassing". Good grief |
I'm sorry, but when a keeper comes to a team with such high regard and reputation, then flaps at the two goals when a bit of composure would have sufficed then yes, you can label that embarrassing.
Spurs - granted the ball went in off Faurlin but made no attempt to dive for it...
Reading - Free kick was spot on by Surey, but again, made no attempt to dive, in fact almost ducked underneath it... Then Prog's flick he fell to his knees and watched it trickle in at 3 mph... | | | |
| Options for West Brom... on 16:20 - Oct 2 with 3526 views | TGRRRSSS |
Brazillian Goalkpeepers are rarely up to much, how they've won so many World Cups is a miracle when you think that way. |  | | |
| Options for West Brom... on 16:28 - Oct 2 with 3507 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Options for West Brom... on 16:18 - Oct 2 by The_Mole |
I'm sorry, but when a keeper comes to a team with such high regard and reputation, then flaps at the two goals when a bit of composure would have sufficed then yes, you can label that embarrassing.
Spurs - granted the ball went in off Faurlin but made no attempt to dive for it...
Reading - Free kick was spot on by Surey, but again, made no attempt to dive, in fact almost ducked underneath it... Then Prog's flick he fell to his knees and watched it trickle in at 3 mph... |
So you don't like him when he doesn't dive for lost causes? He's the best goalkeeper we've had in my lifetime and that's probably the case for most on this board. | | | |
| Options for West Brom... on 16:32 - Oct 2 with 3497 views | BklynRanger |
I'd go for:
Cesar
Harriman Nelsen M'bia Hill
Junior Park Ale Granero Adel
BZ
Clint doesn't know if he's coming or going at the moment. Let him stay at the back on the left and cover for Adel going forward. Just stick to that job until he can go back to competing for CB. Give Harriman a go on the right. Park can hold back and cover for him when he goes forward with Hoilett.
When Anton or Fabio are recovered I'd play M'bia in the middle behind Ale and Granero. |  | | |
| Options for West Brom... on 16:33 - Oct 2 with 3494 views | adhoc_qpr |
Cesar could have done better with the second goal for me, but it did take a deflection.
He still hasn't dropped any clangers though and has made a few pretty decent saves to boot.
I think we need 3 in midfield to play WBA - Granero, Faurlin and either Mbia or Derry to sit back.
Zamora upfront flanked by Hoillet and Taarabt has a good balance.
Defence is a case of whoever is fit, but for god's sake Hughes try and drill them together this week prior to Saturday to forge some understanding! | | | |
| Options for West Brom... on 16:33 - Oct 2 with 3491 views | Hayesender |
| Options for West Brom... on 16:28 - Oct 2 by Watford_Ranger |
So you don't like him when he doesn't dive for lost causes? He's the best goalkeeper we've had in my lifetime and that's probably the case for most on this board. |
You can't be very old fella, cause I can think of three right away.
Seaman, big Jan, and Hucker for starters |  |
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| Options for West Brom... on 16:35 - Oct 2 with 3487 views | toboboly |
| Options for West Brom... on 16:18 - Oct 2 by The_Mole |
I'm sorry, but when a keeper comes to a team with such high regard and reputation, then flaps at the two goals when a bit of composure would have sufficed then yes, you can label that embarrassing.
Spurs - granted the ball went in off Faurlin but made no attempt to dive for it...
Reading - Free kick was spot on by Surey, but again, made no attempt to dive, in fact almost ducked underneath it... Then Prog's flick he fell to his knees and watched it trickle in at 3 mph... |
Green at Augsburg/Swansea/Norwich was awful.
Cesar was great against the Scum and Spurs and didn't do too badly against the Fakes or Wet Spam. |  |
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| Options for West Brom... on 16:50 - Oct 2 with 3464 views | The_Mole |
| Options for West Brom... on 16:33 - Oct 2 by Hayesender |
You can't be very old fella, cause I can think of three right away.
Seaman, big Jan, and Hucker for starters |
My thoughts exactly!
I like Cesar, I do, but as a goal-keeping coach, I feel i'm in a position to criticise the above points...
Cesar is a great shot-stopper but the above points show he loves to flap and isn't quite the finished article yet. | | | |
| Options for West Brom... on 16:51 - Oct 2 with 3462 views | toboboly |
| Options for West Brom... on 16:50 - Oct 2 by The_Mole |
My thoughts exactly!
I like Cesar, I do, but as a goal-keeping coach, I feel i'm in a position to criticise the above points...
Cesar is a great shot-stopper but the above points show he loves to flap and isn't quite the finished article yet. |
He is definately better than Green though. Green flaps like he belongs in an aviary. | |
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| Options for West Brom... on 18:07 - Oct 2 with 3421 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Options for West Brom... on 16:33 - Oct 2 by Hayesender |
You can't be very old fella, cause I can think of three right away.
Seaman, big Jan, and Hucker for starters |
I'm young, so maybe it's not the case for most as I said, but he's looked like a top, top keeper in these few games imo especially given how little time he's know his teammates, the league, any language barriers etc. | | | |
| Options for West Brom... on 18:40 - Oct 2 with 3394 views | ShackletonR |
Agree with the midfield 5 and BZ up front even pushing for a 4-3-3 when on the attack but Hughes is defence minded manager so cant see that even thou we cant defend for 60 grand a week at the moment, got to disagree about Ceser thou he's not a miracle worker our defence are rabbits in the headlights when a cross come's in so cant save every thing, plus he saved a pen against Reading |  |
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| Options for West Brom... on 18:44 - Oct 2 with 3384 views | TacticalR |
| Options for West Brom... on 16:51 - Oct 2 by toboboly |
He is definately better than Green though. Green flaps like he belongs in an aviary. |
He began his playing career as a canary, so that explains it. |  |
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| Options for West Brom... on 18:45 - Oct 2 with 3381 views | jamois |
| Options for West Brom... on 18:07 - Oct 2 by Watford_Ranger |
I'm young, so maybe it's not the case for most as I said, but he's looked like a top, top keeper in these few games imo especially given how little time he's know his teammates, the league, any language barriers etc. |
I think the point is for a Brazilian keeper he looks pretty good |  |
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| Options for West Brom... on 18:52 - Oct 2 with 3370 views | hoops_legend |
| Options for West Brom... on 18:45 - Oct 2 by jamois |
I think the point is for a Brazilian keeper he looks pretty good |
I loved cesars save when he palmed onto cross bar. World class..
Also when he picked up the west ham player who had dived pretending he had been elbowed or punched by our defender in injury time. He was going berserk. I loved that passion |  |
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| Options for West Brom... on 19:32 - Oct 2 with 3330 views | AgedR |
| Options for West Brom... on 16:18 - Oct 2 by The_Mole |
I'm sorry, but when a keeper comes to a team with such high regard and reputation, then flaps at the two goals when a bit of composure would have sufficed then yes, you can label that embarrassing.
Spurs - granted the ball went in off Faurlin but made no attempt to dive for it...
Reading - Free kick was spot on by Surey, but again, made no attempt to dive, in fact almost ducked underneath it... Then Prog's flick he fell to his knees and watched it trickle in at 3 mph... |
What nonsensical prattle.
Ceasar hasn't flapped at anything since he's been here, and the comments about not diving for Ale's own goal...it's just twaddle.
What about the calm and assured manner in which he distributes the ball? What about the way he cleared out three men, when punching a corner? What about the magnificent save he made on to the bar? What about the fact that he's only played four games and looks the real deal?...no, let's concentrate on make believe faux pas.
He is quality and so will we be when the back four settles and we are not forced to chase a game at home.
We have had two bad results this season and on both occasions we conceded relatively early goals. We were excellent against Spurs and Chelsea, but, let's not look at the positives, that might actually require something other than knee jerk postulating.
While we're at it let's say Hughes is a tactical pigmy, there is no team spirit, Samba is depressed, Mittal is off, Warren Farm has hit a snag, the hoops are too skinny, Mackie has no first touch, we give too many tickets to away fans, our home fans are are seated in the wrong place, the badge is too flowery, Stan didn't play enough for England, the Tories are governing without a mandate and TF's Malysian connections are dubious. Better still, let's all go and become Spurs or Blackburn fans.
Clive, is there anyway you could encorporate a button for posts, ala Facebook, that we can tick, which simply says 'Piffle'. |  |
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| Options for West Brom... on 19:57 - Oct 2 with 3304 views | RS44 |
| Options for West Brom... on 16:51 - Oct 2 by toboboly |
He is definately better than Green though. Green flaps like he belongs in an aviary. |
Haha, that made me laugh!
The bloke flaps like a queer penguin! |  | | |
| Options for West Brom... on 20:22 - Oct 2 with 3275 views | Jigsore |
I have to say that's a good idea. A 4-3-3 would be ideal with Zamora at the front and Hoilett accompanying him on the right and Taarabt straying left but essentially getting a bit of a free role because that suits him. |  |
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