| US Election 09:11 - Nov 5 with 9035 views | SaintNick |
What a carry on, apparently Trump has earmarked $90 million to launch legal challenges if he loses |  |
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| US Election on 13:34 - Nov 9 with 1023 views | Bridders2 |
| US Election on 13:11 - Nov 9 by cocklebreath |
I agree, I can’t get my head round the fact so many men back him, he’s everything I’d not want to be |
Must be hard for you, even harder knowing he got 37% of Hispanic women voting for him. And 44% of all women. |  | | |
| US Election on 17:10 - Nov 9 with 902 views | kentsouthampton |
| US Election on 13:34 - Nov 9 by Bridders2 |
Must be hard for you, even harder knowing he got 37% of Hispanic women voting for him. And 44% of all women. |
Are you a fan of nonces as well? |  | | |
| US Election on 17:12 - Nov 9 with 895 views | kentsouthampton |
| US Election on 13:11 - Nov 9 by cocklebreath |
I agree, I can’t get my head round the fact so many men back him, he’s everything I’d not want to be |
The sort of men who like Trump are most likely Andrew Tate followers. | | | |
| US Election on 21:37 - Nov 9 with 821 views | cocklebreath |
| US Election on 13:34 - Nov 9 by Bridders2 |
Must be hard for you, even harder knowing he got 37% of Hispanic women voting for him. And 44% of all women. |
What do you admire about him? |  |
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| US Election on 22:04 - Nov 9 with 786 views | Bridders2 |
| US Election on 21:37 - Nov 9 by cocklebreath |
What do you admire about him? |
When did I say I admired him? I think it's amusing that the looney left can't understand that other people, the majority in this case, have a different point of view.
He's a flawed, unpredictable character there's no doubt about it, but he's been demonised relentlessly by the left media here and the US, BBC and Ch4 and still won.
It's called Democracy. | | | |
| US Election on 06:38 - Nov 10 with 710 views | City_boy |
| US Election on 22:04 - Nov 9 by Bridders2 |
When did I say I admired him? I think it's amusing that the looney left can't understand that other people, the majority in this case, have a different point of view.
He's a flawed, unpredictable character there's no doubt about it, but he's been demonised relentlessly by the left media here and the US, BBC and Ch4 and still won.
It's called Democracy. |
I think you forgot that he was also convicted of; 34 counts of fraud, sexual assault, went with 2 porn stars whilst married, discriminated against black people in 70/80's who wanted to rent his buildings, and then there was the sham Trump University where he had to pay out %25m. Finally, we will probably never know what he got up to with his friend Jeffrey Epstein.
This isn't all down to him being hounded by the media ?
I appreciate America has voted and that is democracy, but still amazed that they believe he is fit and proper to run the US. Even his own VP compared him to Hitler. | | | |
| US Election on 09:06 - Nov 10 with 662 views | Jellybaby |
| US Election on 06:38 - Nov 10 by City_boy |
I think you forgot that he was also convicted of; 34 counts of fraud, sexual assault, went with 2 porn stars whilst married, discriminated against black people in 70/80's who wanted to rent his buildings, and then there was the sham Trump University where he had to pay out %25m. Finally, we will probably never know what he got up to with his friend Jeffrey Epstein.
This isn't all down to him being hounded by the media ?
I appreciate America has voted and that is democracy, but still amazed that they believe he is fit and proper to run the US. Even his own VP compared him to Hitler. |
Yes, Trump is heavily compromised, that's exactly how the Deep State like their leaders - it makes them more pliable. | |
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| US Election on 09:14 - Nov 10 with 652 views | Chesham_Saint |
| US Election on 06:38 - Nov 10 by City_boy |
I think you forgot that he was also convicted of; 34 counts of fraud, sexual assault, went with 2 porn stars whilst married, discriminated against black people in 70/80's who wanted to rent his buildings, and then there was the sham Trump University where he had to pay out %25m. Finally, we will probably never know what he got up to with his friend Jeffrey Epstein.
This isn't all down to him being hounded by the media ?
I appreciate America has voted and that is democracy, but still amazed that they believe he is fit and proper to run the US. Even his own VP compared him to Hitler. |
Those are clearly very serious issues.
But cheating on your wife and going with porn stars is against the law? Who knew! What about spaffing a load over a lady’s dress? Is that ok? |  |
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| US Election on 10:08 - Nov 10 with 627 views | City_boy |
| US Election on 09:14 - Nov 10 by Chesham_Saint |
Those are clearly very serious issues.
But cheating on your wife and going with porn stars is against the law? Who knew! What about spaffing a load over a lady’s dress? Is that ok? |
No not acceptable, but he did not have a "sexual relationship with that woman" !  | | | |
| US Election on 10:26 - Nov 10 with 613 views | kentsouthampton |
| US Election on 09:14 - Nov 10 by Chesham_Saint |
Those are clearly very serious issues.
But cheating on your wife and going with porn stars is against the law? Who knew! What about spaffing a load over a lady’s dress? Is that ok? |
I suppose rape and fraud are fine as well. | | | |
| US Election on 12:29 - Nov 10 with 589 views | Chesham_Saint |
| US Election on 10:26 - Nov 10 by kentsouthampton |
I suppose rape and fraud are fine as well. |
Clearly not. I never said they were, did I? | |
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| US Election on 18:14 - Nov 10 with 513 views | kentsouthampton |
| US Election on 12:29 - Nov 10 by Chesham_Saint |
Clearly not. I never said they were, did I? |
They are both Trump traits that you've conveniently ignored. | | | |
| US Election on 19:25 - Nov 10 with 480 views | Bridders2 |
| US Election on 06:38 - Nov 10 by City_boy |
I think you forgot that he was also convicted of; 34 counts of fraud, sexual assault, went with 2 porn stars whilst married, discriminated against black people in 70/80's who wanted to rent his buildings, and then there was the sham Trump University where he had to pay out %25m. Finally, we will probably never know what he got up to with his friend Jeffrey Epstein.
This isn't all down to him being hounded by the media ?
I appreciate America has voted and that is democracy, but still amazed that they believe he is fit and proper to run the US. Even his own VP compared him to Hitler. |
Quite, I agree it's democracy.
I'm not disputing he's been charged with fraud, withholding government documents, hush payments for sex etc etc ( and cried witch-hunt, which has strengthened his support) I think many people who voted for him were well aware of these charges, but despite them, see Trump's view of the world and his policies striking accord with their own and they were prepared to overlook his wrongdoing.
By the way JFK was probably the worst sexual deviant, followed closely by Bill Clinton... | | | |
| US Election on 19:59 - Nov 10 with 457 views | cocklebreath |
| US Election on 19:25 - Nov 10 by Bridders2 |
Quite, I agree it's democracy.
I'm not disputing he's been charged with fraud, withholding government documents, hush payments for sex etc etc ( and cried witch-hunt, which has strengthened his support) I think many people who voted for him were well aware of these charges, but despite them, see Trump's view of the world and his policies striking accord with their own and they were prepared to overlook his wrongdoing.
By the way JFK was probably the worst sexual deviant, followed closely by Bill Clinton... |
Imagine being a women who is raped and not allowed to abort the baby, dark ages. | |
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| US Election on 23:21 - Nov 10 with 428 views | Jellybaby |
| US Election on 19:59 - Nov 10 by cocklebreath |
Imagine being a women who is raped and not allowed to abort the baby, dark ages. |
Imagine being a man on a football forum in another country advocating the murder of a human life, very dark times. | |
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| US Election on 08:18 - Nov 11 with 347 views | Chesham_Saint |
| US Election on 18:14 - Nov 10 by kentsouthampton |
They are both Trump traits that you've conveniently ignored. |
Ignored?
I was unaware that he had been convicted of rape. If that’s the case then that’s not something to ignore. My understanding however, is that it was sexual abuse and defamation which (although of course abhorrent) is not the same thing.
As for ignoring the rest, surely we can take it as read, that he’s an odious man. | |
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| US Election on 11:02 - Nov 11 with 277 views | franniesTache |
| US Election on 18:04 - Nov 8 by NYC_Saint |
I think it's a reminder that the US is a center right country. Voters ousted him after one term on the promise of more moderate, centrist and unifying leadership from Biden. They got very little leadership at all - he quickly was removed from public view as he went downhill cognitively. He should've steeped aside years, not months, ago. Instead, he stuck it out until there was a coup and ultimately voters were left with two poor choices (and Harris' VP choice was beyond a joke - worse than Palin in 2008, - it exposed her as weak and insecure; had she picked Shapiro they would've stood a much stronger chance of winning).
The massively low turnout for Harris vs Biden in 2020 (69mn vs 81mn in 2020) shows that there was limited resolve for people to "vote against" Trump given what they were served up for the last 4 years. Some of the more loony left stuff (think doubling down on in tact biological men's rights to be fully naked in women's changing rooms) also gave more rightward leaning voters a veil to hide behind rather than expose their more backward opinions.
Ultimately Trump's bark is worse than his bite and a lot of the rhetoric is a negotiation tactic as we saw last time round. Effectively the US has gone without any real Presidential leadership now for 8 years. Hopefully it and the world can muddle through another 4 and maybe a credible centrist Dem caucus emerges in time for 2028 rather than feeling they have to lean even further left. |
I'm not sure i agree the US is a center right country, from an outside perspective i'd say it's a hard right country which at times flirts with being a theocracy.
As for Trump himself do i think he's a fascist? Probably not, in fact i don't think he's really got any political opinions at all, i think he's probably just a completely immoral businessman with no interests far beyond enriching himself, at whatever cost.
Do i think those around him have far right/fascist leanings, almost certainly. If you look at Umberto Eco's definition of Fascism then those around him fall directly into it.
If i had to place the Trump regime somewhere on the political scale i'd say it's probably closer to Pinochet and the Chicago School (with hints of Orban) rather than Mussolini or Franco. |  | | |
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