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England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. 21:54 - Jul 10 with 13813 views

Esox_Lucius

I never have any luck with these things. 😁

[Post edited 12 Jul 9:04]

The grass is always greener.

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:10 - Jul 14 with 1540 views

paulparker

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:07 - Jul 14 by Juzzie
Well, can’t see Southgate staying on so will be interesting to see if the next manager takes the shackles off.

He needs to walk away and take Kane with him

And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles Brian Moore

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:11 - Jul 14 with 1541 views

ManinBlack

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:06 - Jul 14 by Gus_iom
No, the best team won, the most courageous team won, the team with the best squad lost.

Exactly this. We didn't play to our attacking strengths.

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:12 - Jul 14 with 1513 views

Gus_iom

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:10 - Jul 14 by paulparker
He needs to walk away and take Kane with him

I don't think Kane has been fit. He's a great player, but if he's not fit, he shouldn't play. A reoccurring theme of recent finals

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England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:14 - Jul 14 with 1479 views

ted_hendrix

We came so close with those headers In the dying seconds, If one of them were to have gone In 2-2 who knows?

My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic.

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:16 - Jul 14 with 1432 views

Ned_Kennedys

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:14 - Jul 14 by ted_hendrix
We came so close with those headers In the dying seconds, If one of them were to have gone In 2-2 who knows?

And if Spain had taken the numerous chances they had we’d have lost by 3 or 4.

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:20 - Jul 14 with 1364 views

ted_hendrix

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:16 - Jul 14 by Ned_Kennedys
And if Spain had taken the numerous chances they had we’d have lost by 3 or 4.

They beat us fair and square I'm not disputing that.

My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic.

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:24 - Jul 14 with 1321 views

rbee

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:02 - Jul 14 by Juzzie
Just out of curiosity, would Spain have taken us apart had we played more all-out or would we have actually got something out of it?

lassel

Cowardly manager loses final by being a coward.

Juzzie

Just out of curiosity, would Spain have taken us apart had we played more all-out or would we have actually got something out of it?

This is where I wish I was a football expert! Were we too negative or were Spain that much better than us? Probably an element of both. We really saw nothing of Saka/Walker attacking on the right, Foden rarely looked dangerous. After our equaliser we really didn't try to press home our advanatage.

Should Kane have started? Should more substitutions have been made especially after our equaliser? Our attacking play was ponderous whilst Spain attacked quickly and got players forward.

We looked knackered throughout, Kane wasn't really Kane, Bellingham certainly wasn't Bellingham.

So many questions that I cannot answer.

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England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:26 - Jul 14 with 1287 views

aston_hoop

Spain are the best team in Europe and we lost to them narrowly. No shame in that for me.

Those who hate Southgate will get their way, we'll see him leave in the coming days. But whoever comes in next owes him a hell of a lot for rebuilding the culture in the England squad. Its not Man utd v Liverpool v Chelsea in the dressing rooms. Its England. For that he can be bloody proud.

Poll:

Moses Odubajo - Stick or Twist?

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:32 - Jul 14 with 1218 views

Ned_Kennedys

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:26 - Jul 14 by aston_hoop
Spain are the best team in Europe and we lost to them narrowly. No shame in that for me. Those who hate Southgate will get their way, we'll see him leave in the coming days. But whoever comes in next owes him a hell of a lot for rebuilding the culture in the England squad. Its not Man utd v Liverpool v Chelsea in the dressing rooms. Its England. For that he can be bloody proud.

Yeah he’s laid some decent foundations.
Just need a manager who can get the best out of the players by playing on the front foot and take us to the next level of actually winning something.

[Post edited 14 Jul 22:33]

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:37 - Jul 14 with 1182 views

daveB

absolutely devastated and broken, I don't think I'll ever get over this
Spain deserved it but that chance at the end, so close to taking it to extra time
Very proud of players and manager, they gave it everything

I'll leave the miserable sods on here to celebrate for a few days and revel in the misery

[Post edited 14 Jul 22:38]

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:39 - Jul 14 with 1169 views

rbee

Gary Neville saying that we did play too deep, agree, but then says that we didn't have the pace to get forward quickly.

If we could have got to 65/70 minutes at 0-0 and then made our substitutions things might have turned out differently but conceding early in the second half really hurt us.

A feeling that our attacking players were handcuffed once again but tonights result is really not as disappointing as the Italy Final three years ago.

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:41 - Jul 14 with 1160 views

daveB

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 21:55 - Jul 14 by Ned_Kennedys
It’s a shame but Spain totally deserve it based on second half: one team came out second half to win, the other were happy to try to keep it tight. Southgate was about to bring on Connor Gallagher just before they scored FFS.

Gallagher was warming up he wasn't about to come on

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:44 - Jul 14 with 1123 views

Ned_Kennedys

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:41 - Jul 14 by daveB
Gallagher was warming up he wasn't about to come on

That’s not what the BBC commentator said: as he was there I’d take his word over yours.

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:45 - Jul 14 with 1113 views

Ned_Kennedys

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:37 - Jul 14 by daveB
absolutely devastated and broken, I don't think I'll ever get over this Spain deserved it but that chance at the end, so close to taking it to extra time Very proud of players and manager, they gave it everything I'll leave the miserable sods on here to celebrate for a few days and revel in the misery [Post edited 14 Jul 22:38]

Grow up: regardless of what most think about Southgate everyone wanted England to win.

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:45 - Jul 14 with 1109 views

saxbend

Spain win. Marti wins. We win. You Rs!

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:47 - Jul 14 with 1098 views

daveB

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:44 - Jul 14 by Ned_Kennedys
That’s not what the BBC commentator said: as he was there I’d take his word over yours.

he said he's warming up and being lined up to come on

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:52 - Jul 14 with 1051 views

QPR_Jim

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:24 - Jul 14 by rbee

[Post edited 14 Jul 22:27]

From my point of view I didn't think Kane was at it for the full tournament and while I respect his record for goal scoring, I think as a team we'd have been more dangerous with Watkins starting.

I think leaving Rice on was a mistake, started to look a bit tired and we removed Mainoo instead.

All that said, I think Southgate has done a great job overall but as with the Italy game, I feel like we've missed an opportunity again.

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:53 - Jul 14 with 1042 views

daveB

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:45 - Jul 14 by Ned_Kennedys
Grow up: regardless of what most think about Southgate everyone wanted England to win.

mate all I've read on here for weeks is people slagging off the players or the manager, I can only say how i feel, people seem to take a lot of joy out of slating the England manager and players

I just hope the next fella makes you all happy

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:55 - Jul 14 with 1027 views

QPR_Jim

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:47 - Jul 14 by daveB
he said he's warming up and being lined up to come on

I thought the BBC commentator said striped off but may have been mistaken. I was actually all right with the sub as I thought Rice needed to be hooked.

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 23:03 - Jul 14 with 986 views

rbee

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:53 - Jul 14 by daveB
mate all I've read on here for weeks is people slagging off the players or the manager, I can only say how i feel, people seem to take a lot of joy out of slating the England manager and players I just hope the next fella makes you all happy

Dave it's extreme frustration not joy. We see our players unable to replicate their league form in an England shirt time and time again. The media don't help putting us on a pedestal as tournament favorites.

I was angry, confused and really disappointed three years ago as we let Italy beat us but tonight I can be a little more pragmatic.

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 23:23 - Jul 14 with 892 views

Gus_iom

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 23:03 - Jul 14 by rbee
Dave it's extreme frustration not joy. We see our players unable to replicate their league form in an England shirt time and time again. The media don't help putting us on a pedestal as tournament favorites. I was angry, confused and really disappointed three years ago as we let Italy beat us but tonight I can be a little more pragmatic.

Karl will be on soon to tell us who was the only team to beat Spain in the tournament was.
Which has to make you think

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England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 23:25 - Jul 14 with 884 views

paulparker

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 22:37 - Jul 14 by daveB
absolutely devastated and broken, I don't think I'll ever get over this Spain deserved it but that chance at the end, so close to taking it to extra time Very proud of players and manager, they gave it everything I'll leave the miserable sods on here to celebrate for a few days and revel in the misery [Post edited 14 Jul 22:38]

The question I would ask is why again did he start an unfit Kane
And why the hell did he keep letting Pickford smash it up the pitch to no one
Spain were rattled when we scored and yet again we sat back for extra time
Another big game Southgate has got it wrong imo

And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles Brian Moore

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 23:33 - Jul 14 with 855 views

BazzaInTheLoft

Agree with a lot said on here, but also think a lot of it is childish and entitled.

Some things to consider that hasn’t been said:

- Kane joint top scorer
- Spain first side in history to win all games in a tournament
- England 3rd youngest team in the tournament. A good few tournament finals to get to.

Thanks Gareth. Have a lager (or a cider). You’ve earned it

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England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 23:43 - Jul 14 with 816 views

Gus_iom

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 23:33 - Jul 14 by BazzaInTheLoft

Your 'childish and entitled' is my ambitious.
With the quality of players available to us, we should have been so much more - you pick an attacking 11 and then ask them to play conservatively. I'm surprised you approve of that, to be honest!

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 23:50 - Jul 14 with 800 views

BazzaInTheLoft

England vs King Philip's Armada pt.2 EURO 24 Match thread. on 23:43 - Jul 14 by Gus_iom
Your 'childish and entitled' is my ambitious. With the quality of players available to us, we should have been so much more - you pick an attacking 11 and then ask them to play conservatively. I'm surprised you approve of that, to be honest!

What’s ambitious about calling England’s most successful manager alive Boregate or calling him a terrorist?

I approve of whatever gets us to the final frankly. Not as convinced about the quality of our players either.

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