| The 20MPH punishments 08:34 - Aug 3 with 138400 views | SullutaCreturned |
Well the punishment for breaking the limit,
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/police-confirm-how-punish-drivers-
Given how many idiots are on the roads, the delivery drivers under pressure and the actual difficutly in staying below 20 (it is difficult, I do it every week when I go to Cardiff and it's harder than you'd think, specially going downhill) there will be a lot of speeding going on.
The Senedd expect the fire brigade to become a road safety unit, how stupid is that? The fire brigade have their job and it's hard enough for them to do that the way the Senedd behaves.
Then there's the pollution problem, all those cars tootling around in second gear will fill the streets with pollution, it'll rise and rise and the few accidents stopped by this madness will be replaced tenfold and more in the years to come by serious health issues, those with asthma can look out, better buy your respirators now.
I wonder if cancers will also increase?
By the time we have all gone electric, assuming we all do, thousands of lives will be blighted by illness. |  | | |  |
| The 20MPH punishments on 22:39 - Sep 30 with 1739 views | union_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 22:01 - Sep 30 by Kilkennyjack |
Not really ……
‘English people living in Wales tilted it towards Brexit, research finds
Areas of Wales with big English communities had larger leave vote in 2016, according to study’
Its Englands Brexit …. |
Oh dear God! |  |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 08:25 - Oct 1 with 1693 views | Togg |
| The 20MPH punishments on 22:01 - Sep 30 by Kilkennyjack |
Not really ……
‘English people living in Wales tilted it towards Brexit, research finds
Areas of Wales with big English communities had larger leave vote in 2016, according to study’
Its Englands Brexit …. |
Well I know loads of Welsh people who voted out and how many English people live in the Cynon, Rhonnda, Gwent Valleys. | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 09:25 - Oct 1 with 1675 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 22:01 - Sep 30 by Kilkennyjack |
Not really ……
‘English people living in Wales tilted it towards Brexit, research finds
Areas of Wales with big English communities had larger leave vote in 2016, according to study’
Its Englands Brexit …. |
Wales voted to leave the EU. It was a UK wide referendum. Democracy in action. Very silly claim to say it was the English in Wales who voted to leave. Are 52% of the population who live in Wales English.
In fact the three most English regions in Wales Cardiff, Vale of Glamorgan and Monmouthshire voted to remain with Cardiff having a 30,000 majority in favour of remain.
Only 4 of 22 regions in Wales voted to remain. The other 18 voted to leave including all the Welsh speaking and PC regions except for Gwynedd.
I do wish you would do your own research instead of cut and pasting other peoples'. Then you would not look silly so often.
Mind you research showed that the tiny 7,000 majority in the 1997 Welsh Devolution referendum was due to Irish and Scottish voters living in Wales voting for Devolution. This group forced Devolution onto Wales which the Welsh people did not want.
Not sure what your post has to do with 453,000 signing the petition asking Welsh Government the rescind and remove tye disastrous 20 mph Law. [Post edited 1 Oct 2023 9:44]
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| The 20MPH punishments on 10:08 - Oct 1 with 1657 views | onehunglow |
| The 20MPH punishments on 08:25 - Oct 1 by Togg |
Well I know loads of Welsh people who voted out and how many English people live in the Cynon, Rhonnda, Gwent Valleys. |
They d be mad too.
Valleys voted resoundingly to leave.
Like many Tories did,being afraid of Johnny Foreigner
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| The 20MPH punishments on 10:09 - Oct 1 with 1656 views | onehunglow |
| The 20MPH punishments on 09:25 - Oct 1 by felixstowe_jack |
Wales voted to leave the EU. It was a UK wide referendum. Democracy in action. Very silly claim to say it was the English in Wales who voted to leave. Are 52% of the population who live in Wales English.
In fact the three most English regions in Wales Cardiff, Vale of Glamorgan and Monmouthshire voted to remain with Cardiff having a 30,000 majority in favour of remain.
Only 4 of 22 regions in Wales voted to remain. The other 18 voted to leave including all the Welsh speaking and PC regions except for Gwynedd.
I do wish you would do your own research instead of cut and pasting other peoples'. Then you would not look silly so often.
Mind you research showed that the tiny 7,000 majority in the 1997 Welsh Devolution referendum was due to Irish and Scottish voters living in Wales voting for Devolution. This group forced Devolution onto Wales which the Welsh people did not want.
Not sure what your post has to do with 453,000 signing the petition asking Welsh Government the rescind and remove tye disastrous 20 mph Law. [Post edited 1 Oct 2023 9:44]
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The Gogs would vote for anything that changes the status quo. | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 15:22 - Oct 1 with 1602 views | BarrySwan |
A persons place of birth nor who or what a named individual voted for are not recorded as part of the voting system in the UK.
Yet apparently a number of Nat's claims to have the lowdown on the nationalities of those who voted to leave.
I'd chuck such ludicrous claims into the same bucket as the joke polls claiming that 38% of people in Wales want independence and the spectacle of the same couple of thousand who travel around Wales attending independence marches being portrayed as a massive all Wales wide demonstration of call for Indy. | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 17:46 - Oct 1 with 1545 views | Togg |
| The 20MPH punishments on 15:22 - Oct 1 by BarrySwan |
A persons place of birth nor who or what a named individual voted for are not recorded as part of the voting system in the UK.
Yet apparently a number of Nat's claims to have the lowdown on the nationalities of those who voted to leave.
I'd chuck such ludicrous claims into the same bucket as the joke polls claiming that 38% of people in Wales want independence and the spectacle of the same couple of thousand who travel around Wales attending independence marches being portrayed as a massive all Wales wide demonstration of call for Indy. |
I think it was a Guardian article which is a left wing version of the Telegraph. Wales voted out end of. Some people think Wales is an all inclusive socialist paradise. It's not. Yes majority will always vote Labour because that is their core principle. Many will carry on voting Conservative because that's their core principle. Whether the current lot in Westminster are pretty dreadful or not. Let's not forget the end of the 70s, or the last Labour administration which left us in hell go a state. | | | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 20:29 - Oct 1 with 1480 views | AnotherJohn |
| The 20MPH punishments on 17:46 - Oct 1 by Togg |
I think it was a Guardian article which is a left wing version of the Telegraph. Wales voted out end of. Some people think Wales is an all inclusive socialist paradise. It's not. Yes majority will always vote Labour because that is their core principle. Many will carry on voting Conservative because that's their core principle. Whether the current lot in Westminster are pretty dreadful or not. Let's not forget the end of the 70s, or the last Labour administration which left us in hell go a state. |
The Guardian used to be my favourite newspaper until around 10 years ago when I realised it no longer reflected reality. Several of the regular columnists - Alibhai-Brown et al - seem to live on another planet. The Indy has gone the same way, I don't think there is a a single newspaper these days that gives a balanced view; you have to dip in and out of several sources and decide what seems most plausible. Actually the Telegraph isn't as bad as the Mail or Express. | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 21:33 - Oct 1 with 1462 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| The 20MPH punishments on 20:29 - Oct 1 by AnotherJohn |
The Guardian used to be my favourite newspaper until around 10 years ago when I realised it no longer reflected reality. Several of the regular columnists - Alibhai-Brown et al - seem to live on another planet. The Indy has gone the same way, I don't think there is a a single newspaper these days that gives a balanced view; you have to dip in and out of several sources and decide what seems most plausible. Actually the Telegraph isn't as bad as the Mail or Express. |
Sadly journalism seems to have moved away from getting to the truth to presenting a position. As you say you have to hunt around to get both sides of a story these days. |  |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 21:43 - Oct 1 with 1457 views | builthjack |
Chances of survival if struck at 30mph….. 50%
Chances of survival if struck at 20mph….. 90%
The figures are from Cornwall Council. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The 20MPH punishments on 22:01 - Oct 1 with 1445 views | Flashberryjack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 21:43 - Oct 1 by builthjack |
Chances of survival if struck at 30mph….. 50%
Chances of survival if struck at 20mph….. 90%
The figures are from Cornwall Council. |
I wonder how much Cornwall council spent on coming to that conclusion. |  |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 22:07 - Oct 1 with 1420 views | builthjack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 22:01 - Oct 1 by Flashberryjack |
I wonder how much Cornwall council spent on coming to that conclusion. |
You can’t put a price on a life. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The 20MPH punishments on 06:03 - Oct 3 with 1281 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 22:07 - Oct 1 by builthjack |
You can’t put a price on a life. |
Correct how many extra lives will all the extra pollution cause. | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 06:17 - Oct 3 with 1276 views | felixstowe_jack |
First Cymru is reducing bus services across West Wales as Welsh Government funding is being cut. | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 06:54 - Oct 3 with 1246 views | majorraglan |
| The 20MPH punishments on 06:17 - Oct 3 by felixstowe_jack |
First Cymru is reducing bus services across West Wales as Welsh Government funding is being cut. |
And the services simply aren’t being used as passenger numbers, particularly those with the concessionary travel passes aren’t using the services.
If you have to pay to use the bus, my experience is that they’re very expensive. | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 07:05 - Oct 3 with 1226 views | builthjack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 06:17 - Oct 3 by felixstowe_jack |
First Cymru is reducing bus services across West Wales as Welsh Government funding is being cut. |
That’s not good.
Did you know that 50% of local bus services in England have been cut since the Conservatives got back into power. Now that is a huge figure. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The 20MPH punishments on 08:47 - Oct 3 with 1184 views | controversial_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 06:17 - Oct 3 by felixstowe_jack |
First Cymru is reducing bus services across West Wales as Welsh Government funding is being cut. |
So much for privatisation when it has to rely on govt subsidies | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 10:37 - Oct 3 with 1152 views | Whiterockin |
| The 20MPH punishments on 22:07 - Oct 1 by builthjack |
You can’t put a price on a life. |
One of the main factors in costing car insurance premiums is your post code. If these claims are true that the 20mph law will make the roads safer in Wales, I await a reduction in my car insurance premium. I won't hold my breath. |  | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 11:02 - Oct 3 with 1127 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Drove home late last night, drove through two long 20 mph zones outside schools. I think I prefer the approach where signs are turned on during school hours.
There's no kids around at 2am. | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 11:34 - Oct 3 with 1109 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 11:02 - Oct 3 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Drove home late last night, drove through two long 20 mph zones outside schools. I think I prefer the approach where signs are turned on during school hours.
There's no kids around at 2am. |
Very good point. |  |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 15:45 - Oct 3 with 1045 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The 20MPH punishments on 17:46 - Oct 1 by Togg |
I think it was a Guardian article which is a left wing version of the Telegraph. Wales voted out end of. Some people think Wales is an all inclusive socialist paradise. It's not. Yes majority will always vote Labour because that is their core principle. Many will carry on voting Conservative because that's their core principle. Whether the current lot in Westminster are pretty dreadful or not. Let's not forget the end of the 70s, or the last Labour administration which left us in hell go a state. |
Sorry but go to correct something, the majority of the electorate in Wales do not vote. | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 11:27 - Oct 4 with 956 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 15:45 - Oct 3 by SullutaCreturned |
Sorry but go to correct something, the majority of the electorate in Wales do not vote. |
The do in referendums, general elections just not in Senedd elections. | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 11:46 - Oct 4 with 936 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The 20MPH punishments on 11:27 - Oct 4 by felixstowe_jack |
The do in referendums, general elections just not in Senedd elections. |
Not in Senedd referendums either, the last one got a 35% turnout and on the basis of that result they insist the majority of Wales wants more powers for the Senedd and that we love them! | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 11:53 - Oct 4 with 933 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 11:46 - Oct 4 by SullutaCreturned |
Not in Senedd referendums either, the last one got a 35% turnout and on the basis of that result they insist the majority of Wales wants more powers for the Senedd and that we love them! |
I meant meaningful referendums, like devolution, EU membership and changing our voting system from FPTP to proportional representation.
Drakeford ignored that he gave voters to children and now proposes more Senedd members with close list to appoint them from with voters unable to select their own MS. | |
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