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Anderlecht in for Dhanda 18:35 - Jun 17 with 4546 viewsKeithHaynes

Thought I posted this before this afternoon 🤪

Confirmed interest from Vincent Kompany.

Seems Dhanda hasn’t signed the new contract he was offered last January and only has one year of his current one to go.

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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 12:41 - Jun 18 with 1217 viewsvetchonian

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 12:31 - Jun 18 by Badlands

On whose paper?
Our squad was good enough, as they showed for much of the season, to be automatic promotion challengers but Cooper's philosophy was to not lose games.
How many points did we gift to teams struggling way below us because there was a complete lack of ambition.
I know, i know every team in this division could beat any other … except far morr of those teams beat us than any other.


DId we show lack of ambition against Bristol City when we lost 3-1 at home playing attacking football?

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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 12:47 - Jun 18 with 1201 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 12:31 - Jun 18 by Badlands

On whose paper?
Our squad was good enough, as they showed for much of the season, to be automatic promotion challengers but Cooper's philosophy was to not lose games.
How many points did we gift to teams struggling way below us because there was a complete lack of ambition.
I know, i know every team in this division could beat any other … except far morr of those teams beat us than any other.


Innit. We lost 6 of our last 11 games , would have been 7 if we hadn’t just rescued a point at home against the worst side in the league at home. We (Cooper) handed Watford promotion on a silver salver.

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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 13:02 - Jun 18 with 1170 viewsonehunglow

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 12:47 - Jun 18 by Brynmill_Jack

Innit. We lost 6 of our last 11 games , would have been 7 if we hadn’t just rescued a point at home against the worst side in the league at home. We (Cooper) handed Watford promotion on a silver salver.


Indeed.
We were in a great spot but screwed up. Totally down to Cooper and more o that Carlos was responsible for our relegation -just.

Cooper has failed twice.

That's it.

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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 13:11 - Jun 18 with 1167 views34dfgdf54

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 12:41 - Jun 18 by vetchonian

DId we show lack of ambition against Bristol City when we lost 3-1 at home playing attacking football?


We were playing the worst Bristol City team in years, one tactical change at half time swung the whole game. Poor management.
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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 13:12 - Jun 18 with 1166 viewsJJJack

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 10:11 - Jun 18 by AndyCole

Spot on.

Three of our worst for doing the non-negotiables.

The mistake Our management team made was to give Dhanda far too much respect and opportunity to continue to prove to us how shockingly bad he is.

A double whammy after we lost MGW. Instead of pushing on with a proper AM, we were hindered in that space, which probably cost us promotion.


Agreed. MGW and Gallagher were light years ahead of what Dhanda could ever be. I just never saw a top player there. Just hope we get a million or 2 for him but the admiration for him for the little he produced was/is confusing. Celina not much better but at least scored a few goals.
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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 13:16 - Jun 18 with 1154 views34dfgdf54

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 12:38 - Jun 18 by jack247

Did anyone outside of Swansea have us to go up automatically last season? What did the bookies think?

If we’re being honest, it was an achievement for our squad to go toe to toe with stronger squads in the three promoted teams and Bournemouth until half way through the season.

At the same time, we were in a fantastic position and we blew up. Cooper needs to take his share of credit for initially punching above our weight and blame for us capitulating.


Why?

We had a cracking squad of footballers including two full welsh internationals, both of which could be playing premier league next year. Experienced head like Bennett who has been promoted from this league previously. Guehi, definite premier league quality, manning who created more chances than anyone from defence season before joining us couldn’t even get in our starting XI we were that strong.

Statistically the best DM in league in Matty Grimes who will more than likely be playing premier league football next year.

Andre Ayew highest paid/best player arguably in league with Jamal Lowe who also scored 15 did he not?

Play offs were the complete minimum.
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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 13:21 - Jun 18 with 1139 viewsonehunglow

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 13:11 - Jun 18 by 34dfgdf54

We were playing the worst Bristol City team in years, one tactical change at half time swung the whole game. Poor management.


and an appalling Hudds team who hadnt won in ages

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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 13:35 - Jun 18 with 1132 viewsvetchonian

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 13:11 - Jun 18 by 34dfgdf54

We were playing the worst Bristol City team in years, one tactical change at half time swung the whole game. Poor management.


That arguement has been disproven
The so called tactical change did not change the game.
The gifted goal did!

We scored first then gifted them a goal...we continued to attack but couldnt score...we should have been at least 3 up for half time

Yet again another cheap shot at Cooper

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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 13:39 - Jun 18 with 1118 viewsonehunglow

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 13:35 - Jun 18 by vetchonian

That arguement has been disproven
The so called tactical change did not change the game.
The gifted goal did!

We scored first then gifted them a goal...we continued to attack but couldnt score...we should have been at least 3 up for half time

Yet again another cheap shot at Cooper


How about the Hudd game,especially at the John Smith,a game largely forgotten by Steve fans. A disgusting capitulation for he should have but didn't take responsibility.

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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 13:56 - Jun 18 with 1122 viewsvetchonian

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 13:39 - Jun 18 by onehunglow

How about the Hudd game,especially at the John Smith,a game largely forgotten by Steve fans. A disgusting capitulation for he should have but didn't take responsibility.


That is a game that Cooper can be accountable for....As I keep saying we are all entitled to our opinions but quite often Cooper is "attacked" and criticised without ture substance.

The famous Bristol City tactical substitiution.....it was forced as the guy was lucky to be still on the pitch anyway!
Then we went 1 up and we should have been well in front but we couldnt convert our chances....and as many have said we played some good positive attractive attacking football but we couldnt score a goal! Yes Bristol were weak but we were on top for most of the game,

I personally believe Cooper needs coaching in handling the media...sometimes Managers and this applies to all walks of life sometimes dont know how to manage themselves when communicating

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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 14:12 - Jun 18 with 1104 viewsvetchonian

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 13:16 - Jun 18 by 34dfgdf54

Why?

We had a cracking squad of footballers including two full welsh internationals, both of which could be playing premier league next year. Experienced head like Bennett who has been promoted from this league previously. Guehi, definite premier league quality, manning who created more chances than anyone from defence season before joining us couldn’t even get in our starting XI we were that strong.

Statistically the best DM in league in Matty Grimes who will more than likely be playing premier league football next year.

Andre Ayew highest paid/best player arguably in league with Jamal Lowe who also scored 15 did he not?

Play offs were the complete minimum.


As I say we all have and are entitiled to our opinions

Lets talk about players who you are confident will be playing in the PL next season,

Much has been said of Grimes in fact he was "due" to leave us last season much press talk of Watford and other suitors ..yet he was till here for the last season.We do have to wait until the start if next season to see an outcome but personally I think he has hit his peak and as I keep saying clubs spend lots of time watching "potential" players...many on here have spoken of Matty's limitations....scouts will have picked these up too. I would have thought that interest would have been sparked during Potters season here....two seasons on no sign of offers?

Then lets talk abiut Connor he has had a season in the PL, and 3 seasons in the championship....but still no offers?

Dont get me wrong I am not saying these players are not good far from it ...without them we probably wouldnt have got to the play offs , all I am saying is they both have "limitations" which I suspect have swayed the decisions of potential suitors. I like Connor but for a full back his defending is certainly not PL standard...it sometimes is weak at Championship level....he is great going forwards but you woulndt want to rely on him in a flat back four

BUt hey ho its all about opinions and maybe you will be right it will be interesting to see.

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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 14:13 - Jun 18 with 1083 viewsDr_Parnassus

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 12:38 - Jun 18 by jack247

Did anyone outside of Swansea have us to go up automatically last season? What did the bookies think?

If we’re being honest, it was an achievement for our squad to go toe to toe with stronger squads in the three promoted teams and Bournemouth until half way through the season.

At the same time, we were in a fantastic position and we blew up. Cooper needs to take his share of credit for initially punching above our weight and blame for us capitulating.


Agreed.

Nope, I don’t even think many within Swansea had us to go up automatically either. I think we were 8th favourite pre season or something around there.

Wouldn’t say we capitulated though, we just couldn’t sustain unnaturally good form. We got to the play-off final and deservedly lost against a team that looked like the best team in the league for much of it. That was beyond anything I thought we would achieve.

We were never good enough for automatics, the fact we kept up the pace for so long was remarkable, to return to our natural level is not a case of blame, just natural order of things. Mistakes were made absolutely, but that can probably be said for every team outside the top 2, even those in the top 2 in all probability.

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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 17:43 - Jun 18 with 1005 views34dfgdf54

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 13:35 - Jun 18 by vetchonian

That arguement has been disproven
The so called tactical change did not change the game.
The gifted goal did!

We scored first then gifted them a goal...we continued to attack but couldnt score...we should have been at least 3 up for half time

Yet again another cheap shot at Cooper


Ok then, the change made by Pearson did not effect the game and how it was played whatsoever, keep telling yourself that, no problem.
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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 17:49 - Jun 18 with 998 views34dfgdf54

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 14:12 - Jun 18 by vetchonian

As I say we all have and are entitiled to our opinions

Lets talk about players who you are confident will be playing in the PL next season,

Much has been said of Grimes in fact he was "due" to leave us last season much press talk of Watford and other suitors ..yet he was till here for the last season.We do have to wait until the start if next season to see an outcome but personally I think he has hit his peak and as I keep saying clubs spend lots of time watching "potential" players...many on here have spoken of Matty's limitations....scouts will have picked these up too. I would have thought that interest would have been sparked during Potters season here....two seasons on no sign of offers?

Then lets talk abiut Connor he has had a season in the PL, and 3 seasons in the championship....but still no offers?

Dont get me wrong I am not saying these players are not good far from it ...without them we probably wouldnt have got to the play offs , all I am saying is they both have "limitations" which I suspect have swayed the decisions of potential suitors. I like Connor but for a full back his defending is certainly not PL standard...it sometimes is weak at Championship level....he is great going forwards but you woulndt want to rely on him in a flat back four

BUt hey ho its all about opinions and maybe you will be right it will be interesting to see.


Because we held on to our captain? He was subject to a bid by Watford for decent money as was reported by Stuart James and the Watford fella who has a soft spot for us aswell, I’ll find his name when I’m back from work. We’ll see where he is playing his football next season.

Looks like palace board have picked up on the limitations regarding Cooper aswell with how they are casting that net wider and wider.

I will “get you wrong”, that’s exactly what you’re doing, you are saying these players aren’t very good. Any criticism regarding Cooper is “dividing the fanbase” but you guys constantly underrating the players we have brought through here is disrespectful. Who cares about Connor in a back 4? He was dropped when we went to a flat 4 and we had a 200 appearance premier league player waiting in the wings to take over.

Poor squad. Do me a favour. It’s getting boring reading the same old rubbish.
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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 21:07 - Jun 18 with 925 viewsvetchonian

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 17:49 - Jun 18 by 34dfgdf54

Because we held on to our captain? He was subject to a bid by Watford for decent money as was reported by Stuart James and the Watford fella who has a soft spot for us aswell, I’ll find his name when I’m back from work. We’ll see where he is playing his football next season.

Looks like palace board have picked up on the limitations regarding Cooper aswell with how they are casting that net wider and wider.

I will “get you wrong”, that’s exactly what you’re doing, you are saying these players aren’t very good. Any criticism regarding Cooper is “dividing the fanbase” but you guys constantly underrating the players we have brought through here is disrespectful. Who cares about Connor in a back 4? He was dropped when we went to a flat 4 and we had a 200 appearance premier league player waiting in the wings to take over.

Poor squad. Do me a favour. It’s getting boring reading the same old rubbish.
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I'm sorry where have I mentioned poor squad.
all I have done is offer my opinion that the players you state will be playing in the PL next season possibility will still be here based on their limitations. Think about it Ben played what two seasons in the Pl before ge was snapped up,Dan James one season in the championship...yet Conner has played a season in the PL and 3 seasons in the championship.
Where did I mention Cooper ? What has he do to with this discussion. Again I didn't say these players wrong any good in fact they have been very good for us..read my post again.I am merely stating that these players will not necessarily be odds on to move to a PL club ..you ate the one being tedious ...watch the Bristol city game again the full match is available...tactical switch ? Forced change more like.

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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 21:09 - Jun 18 with 917 viewsonehunglow

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 17:49 - Jun 18 by 34dfgdf54

Because we held on to our captain? He was subject to a bid by Watford for decent money as was reported by Stuart James and the Watford fella who has a soft spot for us aswell, I’ll find his name when I’m back from work. We’ll see where he is playing his football next season.

Looks like palace board have picked up on the limitations regarding Cooper aswell with how they are casting that net wider and wider.

I will “get you wrong”, that’s exactly what you’re doing, you are saying these players aren’t very good. Any criticism regarding Cooper is “dividing the fanbase” but you guys constantly underrating the players we have brought through here is disrespectful. Who cares about Connor in a back 4? He was dropped when we went to a flat 4 and we had a 200 appearance premier league player waiting in the wings to take over.

Poor squad. Do me a favour. It’s getting boring reading the same old rubbish.
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Criticism of Cooper shows the fan base isnt dead .
Just as well as Cooper s dead from the neck up

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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 21:58 - Jun 18 with 883 views34dfgdf54

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 21:07 - Jun 18 by vetchonian

I'm sorry where have I mentioned poor squad.
all I have done is offer my opinion that the players you state will be playing in the PL next season possibility will still be here based on their limitations. Think about it Ben played what two seasons in the Pl before ge was snapped up,Dan James one season in the championship...yet Conner has played a season in the PL and 3 seasons in the championship.
Where did I mention Cooper ? What has he do to with this discussion. Again I didn't say these players wrong any good in fact they have been very good for us..read my post again.I am merely stating that these players will not necessarily be odds on to move to a PL club ..you ate the one being tedious ...watch the Bristol city game again the full match is available...tactical switch ? Forced change more like.


You made the comment “another dig at Cooper”. Just a boring comment which is becoming predictable, you and others believe he has worked miracles due to the shortcomings in our squad, I, and others completely disagree as we rate our quality players higher than yourself.

Connor Roberts is in the top 10 chance makers in Europe, grimes statistically best CDM in league, Ayew arguably in top 3 players in league, Cabango wanted by West Ham, Guehi premier league footballer next year. He had the tools, very good ones aswell.

Whether it was forced or not is irrelevant, the change in player and adding another body into midfield if I remember correctly completely gazzumped Cooper and he failed to react, clear for anyone to see apart from those with rose tinted specs on.
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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 22:32 - Jun 18 with 850 viewsjack247

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 13:16 - Jun 18 by 34dfgdf54

Why?

We had a cracking squad of footballers including two full welsh internationals, both of which could be playing premier league next year. Experienced head like Bennett who has been promoted from this league previously. Guehi, definite premier league quality, manning who created more chances than anyone from defence season before joining us couldn’t even get in our starting XI we were that strong.

Statistically the best DM in league in Matty Grimes who will more than likely be playing premier league football next year.

Andre Ayew highest paid/best player arguably in league with Jamal Lowe who also scored 15 did he not?

Play offs were the complete minimum.


Because Norwich, Brentford, Watford and Bournemouth at a minimum had stronger squads.
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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 03:22 - Jun 19 with 810 viewsDr_Parnassus

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 22:32 - Jun 18 by jack247

Because Norwich, Brentford, Watford and Bournemouth at a minimum had stronger squads.


Indeed, nobody is saying we had a bad team as such, just one that was nowhere near good enough to be promoted. We had a team sufficiently good enough to make a play-off challenge, which we did and got to the final.

If we had somehow won the play off final we would need wholesale changes, I don’t think Norwich, Brentford or Watford will need to be too drastic and neither would Bournemouth had they have gone up.

We have had back to back good seasons exceeding expectations, don’t know how anyone can argue otherwise. Unless they are trying to push some other narrative anyway.

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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 07:45 - Jun 19 with 780 views34dfgdf54

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 22:32 - Jun 18 by jack247

Because Norwich, Brentford, Watford and Bournemouth at a minimum had stronger squads.


According to the Brentford fans they had very little depth in squad, very good starting XI but after that they were scratching.

Bournemouth looked a good side on paper but were a complete basket case most of season under a terrible manager, replaced by a terrible manager.

Watford were miles off pace but the change in manager came at the exact right time.

As I said, play offs were a complete minimum for our squad and team, it definitely wasn’t “exceeding expectations”
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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 07:48 - Jun 19 with 776 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 22:32 - Jun 18 by jack247

Because Norwich, Brentford, Watford and Bournemouth at a minimum had stronger squads.


You can argue that but I’d say far more likely they had a stronger mentality and a greater unity when it mattered. Rodgers seemed to be able to lift/inspire average players to play above themselves .

When the going got tough in the business end of the season we folded like a cheap deckchair. 6 defeats in our final 11 games and a manager blindly sticking to a negative style of football which I personally think caused rifts among the players. A promotion winning side has to be United and willing to die for the cause. With certain players (especially during the play off final) I didn’t see that. I saw a group of strangers who looked like they’d met in Wembley car park, put the Swans kit on and hoped for the best. Not an iota of belief they would actually win.

Coopers continued use of a Connor Hourihane clearly going through the motions showed awful man management. It certainly contributed to the arse falling out of our season. We were in the top two/three nearly all season for a reason, we WERE good enough. For people just to say “ah well we didn’t expect the autos anyway” - it’s irrelevant.

We had it in our hands and threw it away like an old unwanted sweater. Bournemouth fans with their squad believed they by rights should go straight back up. They didn’t . We pillory Cardiff fans for their delusions - it’s the same argument. In 2011 no one thought in the beginning of the season we’d be promoted either probably. There’s no justification for us failing and I wish people would show a bit more ambition than this wishy washy nonsense and apportion the blame to the manager who was often out thought by his opposite number and when the players looked to him to change things he just didn’t have the nous or ability to do so.

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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 08:11 - Jun 19 with 756 viewsDr_Parnassus

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 07:48 - Jun 19 by Brynmill_Jack

You can argue that but I’d say far more likely they had a stronger mentality and a greater unity when it mattered. Rodgers seemed to be able to lift/inspire average players to play above themselves .

When the going got tough in the business end of the season we folded like a cheap deckchair. 6 defeats in our final 11 games and a manager blindly sticking to a negative style of football which I personally think caused rifts among the players. A promotion winning side has to be United and willing to die for the cause. With certain players (especially during the play off final) I didn’t see that. I saw a group of strangers who looked like they’d met in Wembley car park, put the Swans kit on and hoped for the best. Not an iota of belief they would actually win.

Coopers continued use of a Connor Hourihane clearly going through the motions showed awful man management. It certainly contributed to the arse falling out of our season. We were in the top two/three nearly all season for a reason, we WERE good enough. For people just to say “ah well we didn’t expect the autos anyway” - it’s irrelevant.

We had it in our hands and threw it away like an old unwanted sweater. Bournemouth fans with their squad believed they by rights should go straight back up. They didn’t . We pillory Cardiff fans for their delusions - it’s the same argument. In 2011 no one thought in the beginning of the season we’d be promoted either probably. There’s no justification for us failing and I wish people would show a bit more ambition than this wishy washy nonsense and apportion the blame to the manager who was often out thought by his opposite number and when the players looked to him to change things he just didn’t have the nous or ability to do so.


Don’t think it has anything to do with ambition, it’s just realism.

I’m sure we would love to be the best team in the league, but the reality is we aren’t. Very far from it.

I’m sure we would like Lowe to bang in 50 goals too, but if he bangs in 25 we have to acknowledge that realistically that is a fantastic achievement and exceeding realistic expectations regardless of what unrealistic ambitions others had.

Recognising that 25 goal marker would not be a lack of ambition on anybodies part.

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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 11:19 - Jun 20 with 620 viewsAndyCole

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 00:05 - Jun 18 by Dr_Parnassus

Let it go, it’s eating away at you man.

Dhanda has been shunned or pretty poor under every manager he’s ever worked for.

Let’s stick to blaming Cooper for real things, this sport of turning every situation and topic into a reason to bash one of our most successful football league managers is almost as insatiable on here as turning every topic into one of racism.

Say it how it is, not how you would like it to be.


It's hilarious isn't it.

Some posters crave attention from the sheeple. And will post any drivel that sparks the emotion of the twps. Wash, rinse, repeat. Classic wum.

This from a poster who infamously stated his/her career chose him/her. On a public forum. And allegedly has a public facing role. Says it all.

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Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 15:11 - Jun 20 with 565 viewsjack247

Anderlecht in for Dhanda on 07:48 - Jun 19 by Brynmill_Jack

You can argue that but I’d say far more likely they had a stronger mentality and a greater unity when it mattered. Rodgers seemed to be able to lift/inspire average players to play above themselves .

When the going got tough in the business end of the season we folded like a cheap deckchair. 6 defeats in our final 11 games and a manager blindly sticking to a negative style of football which I personally think caused rifts among the players. A promotion winning side has to be United and willing to die for the cause. With certain players (especially during the play off final) I didn’t see that. I saw a group of strangers who looked like they’d met in Wembley car park, put the Swans kit on and hoped for the best. Not an iota of belief they would actually win.

Coopers continued use of a Connor Hourihane clearly going through the motions showed awful man management. It certainly contributed to the arse falling out of our season. We were in the top two/three nearly all season for a reason, we WERE good enough. For people just to say “ah well we didn’t expect the autos anyway” - it’s irrelevant.

We had it in our hands and threw it away like an old unwanted sweater. Bournemouth fans with their squad believed they by rights should go straight back up. They didn’t . We pillory Cardiff fans for their delusions - it’s the same argument. In 2011 no one thought in the beginning of the season we’d be promoted either probably. There’s no justification for us failing and I wish people would show a bit more ambition than this wishy washy nonsense and apportion the blame to the manager who was often out thought by his opposite number and when the players looked to him to change things he just didn’t have the nous or ability to do so.


I don’t think it’s even up for debate to be honest. Three of them came down from the PL without anything like the mass exodus we had. Brentford sold their two strikers, but reinvested in a £5m striker, presumably on the kind of wages £5m strikers command. That paid dividends. I’d be confident that someone who really knows their stuff, could pick other teams who started last season with stronger squads than us too.

I agree, it’s not the only reason. Cooper deserves all the flak he gets for sticking with Hourihane. Hourihane deserves all the flak he gets for being a massive blouse and insulting our shirt.

Injuries/recalls didn’t help either. We expected to have MGW here all season, that could have been a game changer. In the cameos he had, I could see Morris being useful. Pace, power and directness would have helped a lot.

I’m not trying to argue that Cooper is anywhere near Rodgers level. He isn’t. There are plenty of sticks to reasonably beat him with. Not being as good as Brendan Rodgers isn’t one of them.
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