| Booing teachers 10:02 - May 14 with 17859 views | Occasional_Showers |
Whilst our wonderful NHS have shown what a credit they are to themselves and the nation, teachers are yet again giving a great example to children of how not to behave in a crisis. Excuse after excuse not to go work, just like when they shut schools at the merest hint of snow.
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| Booing teachers on 00:21 - May 16 with 1412 views | Vagina_Dentata |
| Booing teachers on 08:08 - May 15 by Bison |
My missus is in the office at school and has to administer first aid to the kids and even with small number of kids in has had to go in during all this
The Guardian posted this saying the union will take the government to court unless they are given the same protection as nurses and care workers.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/may/14/teachers-can-legally-refuse-to
The guardian columnist on the BBC last night was even unsure what the teachers ( or unions ) are asking for. I have a lot of respect for teachers but they are starting to lose support over this. |
I’ve been on site every week-day since this started. As a teacher and as the one registered first-aider. I have administered first aid multiple times.
Your wife is doing an incredible job.
Divisional vocabulary and articles help no one. |  |
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| Booing teachers on 05:49 - May 16 with 1385 views | Soton |
| Booing teachers on 20:31 - May 15 by Boris_ |
Speaking with pals who all have primary school children. All of them think schools should be open without social distancing as the risk is so minuscule and the far greater risk is mental and social health related illnesses caused by not being at school.
Why is the nation so irrationally worried about the affect Covid-19 has on children? |
Of course your “ pals who all have primary school children” are all experts in the microbiology and have been constantly consulted by the government when they needed advice.
Heaven forbid that it hold be just for selfish reasons they want someone else to look after their kids during the day |  | | |
| Booing teachers on 08:04 - May 16 with 1355 views | Gennaro_Contaldo |
| Booing teachers on 20:31 - May 15 by Boris_ |
Speaking with pals who all have primary school children. All of them think schools should be open without social distancing as the risk is so minuscule and the far greater risk is mental and social health related illnesses caused by not being at school.
Why is the nation so irrationally worried about the affect Covid-19 has on children? |
Funny that pretty much EVERY parent I know of an infant school child, whether they're people I work with, or parents of my son's friends, do not and probably will not send their children back in. |  |
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| Booing teachers on 08:42 - May 16 with 1337 views | grumpy |
| Booing teachers on 20:31 - May 15 by Boris_ |
Speaking with pals who all have primary school children. All of them think schools should be open without social distancing as the risk is so minuscule and the far greater risk is mental and social health related illnesses caused by not being at school.
Why is the nation so irrationally worried about the affect Covid-19 has on children? |
'Why is the nation so irrationally worried about the affect Covid-19 has on children'
This is so wrong... |  | | |
| Booing teachers on 09:20 - May 16 with 1310 views | grumpy |
What I find staggering is you think Teachers just want a longer holiday. | | | |
| Booing teachers on 10:23 - May 16 with 1292 views | benalisbroom |
| Booing teachers on 16:21 - May 14 by Occasional_Showers |
Work just rang me and asked if I could go in on Monday. I obviously said yes. It was nice while it lasted. |
My God, they really must need the staff |  | | |
| Booing teachers on 10:42 - May 16 with 1286 views | Occasional_Showers |
| Booing teachers on 09:20 - May 16 by grumpy |
What I find staggering is you think Teachers just want a longer holiday. |
They have form closing schools at the merest sign of snow. This pandemic is no different, it’s a good excuse to get out of work. | |
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| Booing teachers on 12:53 - May 16 with 1254 views | cocklebreath |
| Booing teachers on 08:04 - May 16 by Gennaro_Contaldo |
Funny that pretty much EVERY parent I know of an infant school child, whether they're people I work with, or parents of my son's friends, do not and probably will not send their children back in. |
I think there’s a load of shaming going both ways. I personally want my kids back in school, I think they are missing out but I can understand other people feel the opposite. Maybe it should be left to parents choice |  |
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| Booing teachers on 12:51 - May 17 with 1175 views | JaySaint |
"It isn't safe for us to return" say teachers, who are currently popping in to the garden centre on their way back from Tescos
Can't wait for Bankys next piece, highlighting the bravery of many teachers staying at home! | |
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| Booing teachers on 13:13 - May 17 with 1168 views | Boris_ |
| Booing teachers on 08:42 - May 16 by grumpy |
'Why is the nation so irrationally worried about the affect Covid-19 has on children'
This is so wrong... |
3 child deaths out of a population of around 15 million children who didn't have serious underlying medical conditions. Even those 3 cannot be confirmed as Covid-19 deaths, they just have it mentioned on their death certificate.
There are many more dangerous infectious diseases, such a Pneumonia which is far more dangerous for children killing 50 over the winter and hospitalising 50,000 children.
Those are factual statistics and the face you and many others dispute them is what I talk about when I say there is an irrational worry. [Post edited 17 May 2020 13:19]
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| Booing teachers on 13:18 - May 17 with 1162 views | Boris_ |
| Booing teachers on 05:49 - May 16 by Soton |
Of course your “ pals who all have primary school children” are all experts in the microbiology and have been constantly consulted by the government when they needed advice.
Heaven forbid that it hold be just for selfish reasons they want someone else to look after their kids during the day |
Why do you need to be an expert in microbiology to quote the facts? ( Children currently have a 1 in 5 million chance of dying from Covid-19, which I would assume doesn't even put it in the top 20 of causes of death for under 16's ) | |
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| Booing teachers on 13:23 - May 17 with 1151 views | Boris_ |
| Booing teachers on 12:53 - May 16 by cocklebreath |
I think there’s a load of shaming going both ways. I personally want my kids back in school, I think they are missing out but I can understand other people feel the opposite. Maybe it should be left to parents choice |
Exactly. It should be up to the parents if they want their kids to go back to school, not teachers or unions.
People need to be able to make the balanced choice between the risk of their child being seriously ill from Covid-19 and the child suffering from Mental and Social health problems that will come with remaining at home, as well as missing out on the education.
If parents want to keep their kids off school and home school them then that is up to them, but that should come with big fines if they don't keep up with the curriculum and/or they are seen to be socialising their kids with others. | |
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| Booing teachers on 14:05 - May 17 with 1133 views | kentsouthampton |
Contrast that with the attitude of Eton which is not opening until September at the earliest, perhaps we should take our lead from the elites in this country. |  | | |
| Booing teachers on 14:24 - May 17 with 1121 views | Bison |
| Booing teachers on 12:51 - May 17 by JaySaint |
"It isn't safe for us to return" say teachers, who are currently popping in to the garden centre on their way back from Tescos
Can't wait for Bankys next piece, highlighting the bravery of many teachers staying at home! |
This made me chuckle , I have just seen a teacher and his family from my sons school at the garden centre. I asked him if he was looking forward to going back to work and he was hoping they didn't and would do whatever the union said. His son and mine are in years that are not due to go back.
He is a good bloke in general though , runs the kids footy team. |  |
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| Booing teachers on 15:26 - May 17 with 1096 views | JaySaint |
| Booing teachers on 14:24 - May 17 by Bison |
This made me chuckle , I have just seen a teacher and his family from my sons school at the garden centre. I asked him if he was looking forward to going back to work and he was hoping they didn't and would do whatever the union said. His son and mine are in years that are not due to go back.
He is a good bloke in general though , runs the kids footy team. |
I wonder if they were not on full pay if "safety" would remain paramount
we all know the answer | |
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| Booing teachers on 15:42 - May 17 with 1084 views | Saintsforeverj |
The decisions are being made by government and unions, without the front line teachers having a say, in most cases. The front line teachers just wait to be told.
The teachers I know, belong to a union for legal protection, that's all, not because they are all militant. They certainly don't all vote Labour or green party either. Although the unions sometimes have a point, most teachers very rarely agree with their views about the obsessive promotion of LGBQt issues and green peace etc.
Plus the teaching unions are quite weak really. Compare them to the trains unions, who strike for months because they want a 10 % pay rise for their members, the teacher unions don't come close.
But the point is, we need good teachers, they can make a massive difference to a person's life, most are hard working and don't just agree with unions. National slating of them, when most are great teachers, is not helpful. There seems to be a general air of being against teachers (long holidays, lazy etc etc). This won't help the shortage and won't help the nation's children, when potential good teachers are put off joining the profession as they aren't respected in this country, by children and parents alike.
Maybe call out the unions, not the teachers in general? [Post edited 17 May 2020 15:47]
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| Booing teachers on 20:30 - May 17 with 1039 views | inthebox |
Schools were told by the government to close because there was a risks of infection being passed from pupil to teacher, teacher to pupil. What has changed since that time, the number of death s are still in the hundreds a day. Nurses, firemen and Police are the emergency services and we happen to be in an a emergency, if they are adequately protected they should be able to operate. Kids will be kids and social distancing and wearing mask all day will be impossible to achieve, this ia an opportunity for parents to educate their own children, get to know them. Enjoy | | | |
| Booing teachers on 20:39 - May 17 with 1032 views | Boris_ |
| Booing teachers on 20:30 - May 17 by inthebox |
Schools were told by the government to close because there was a risks of infection being passed from pupil to teacher, teacher to pupil. What has changed since that time, the number of death s are still in the hundreds a day. Nurses, firemen and Police are the emergency services and we happen to be in an a emergency, if they are adequately protected they should be able to operate. Kids will be kids and social distancing and wearing mask all day will be impossible to achieve, this ia an opportunity for parents to educate their own children, get to know them. Enjoy |
What's changed? We know more about the virus and all of the scientific evidence point to the virus being very mild for children and the risk of transmission being somewhere between minimal and zero. It's no different in other nations who haven't closed schools since the virus started.
It's also an opportunity for parents to lose their jobs as their children aren't at school, meaning they will not be able to pay bills and will fall in to poverty, which in turn will lead to mental health issues and premature death through depression or poverty related illnesses. [Post edited 17 May 2020 20:54]
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| Booing teachers on 20:59 - May 17 with 1020 views | grumpy |
| Booing teachers on 20:39 - May 17 by Boris_ |
What's changed? We know more about the virus and all of the scientific evidence point to the virus being very mild for children and the risk of transmission being somewhere between minimal and zero. It's no different in other nations who haven't closed schools since the virus started.
It's also an opportunity for parents to lose their jobs as their children aren't at school, meaning they will not be able to pay bills and will fall in to poverty, which in turn will lead to mental health issues and premature death through depression or poverty related illnesses. [Post edited 17 May 2020 20:54]
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https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/may/16/england-plans-to-send-the-wron | | | |
| Booing teachers on 21:16 - May 17 with 1011 views | Bicester_North |
With this trend of yourself and saint22 just posting links to other people’s opinions from the Guardian, what does it actually mean? Does it mean you agree with every word and it reflects your exact views?
What point are you trying to make here? | |
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| Booing teachers on 21:27 - May 17 with 1000 views | grumpy |
| Booing teachers on 21:16 - May 17 by Bicester_North |
With this trend of yourself and saint22 just posting links to other people’s opinions from the Guardian, what does it actually mean? Does it mean you agree with every word and it reflects your exact views?
What point are you trying to make here? |
Um! To send small children back to school too soon?
Have you not been following this thread? [Post edited 17 May 2020 21:30]
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| Booing teachers on 21:42 - May 17 with 975 views | Bicester_North |
| Booing teachers on 21:27 - May 17 by grumpy |
Um! To send small children back to school too soon?
Have you not been following this thread? [Post edited 17 May 2020 21:30]
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What I mean is, it’s easy to post a link to somebody else’s opinion to suit your own agenda. Whatever you believe about this virus you can find an online article to suit your opinion. Why not state your case and your reasons for your opinion, rather than just getting someone paid by a newspaper to think for you?
The simple answer is, no fücker knows so we just have to make small steps and see what happens.
I know schools who have already got a plan and logistics in place that the parents are happy (as they can be) with, and are going to try it, because the head teachers and staff are good thinkers and proactive.
Just lazily copying and pasting links and believing somebody else just because a media outlet pays them (or even worse, from some prick on social media), is typical of too many people in the UK today. | |
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| Booing teachers on 21:57 - May 17 with 960 views | Messysaints |
| Booing teachers on 21:42 - May 17 by Bicester_North |
What I mean is, it’s easy to post a link to somebody else’s opinion to suit your own agenda. Whatever you believe about this virus you can find an online article to suit your opinion. Why not state your case and your reasons for your opinion, rather than just getting someone paid by a newspaper to think for you?
The simple answer is, no fücker knows so we just have to make small steps and see what happens.
I know schools who have already got a plan and logistics in place that the parents are happy (as they can be) with, and are going to try it, because the head teachers and staff are good thinkers and proactive.
Just lazily copying and pasting links and believing somebody else just because a media outlet pays them (or even worse, from some prick on social media), is typical of too many people in the UK today. |
Let me guess, draw squares on the floor for break? Teachers in full ppe while kids in none? ( making them feel valued ofc) not aloud to touch other kids?
If you ask me, it's better for my child's mental health to not be made to feel like she is inferior to adults, cause she isn't, then afterwards, after school, she will be even more upset, she will have attended school to see her friends to find out she can't go near them or talk to them ( can't have a classroom full of shouting kids now can we?)
Now I also have to explain that even though she is fine to go school, she still can't see her grandparents or great grand parent, or still go out and play, cause she needs to protect others, but her life is OK to risk? No way... Lol... | | | |
| Booing teachers on 22:05 - May 17 with 949 views | Bicester_North |
| Booing teachers on 21:57 - May 17 by Messysaints |
Let me guess, draw squares on the floor for break? Teachers in full ppe while kids in none? ( making them feel valued ofc) not aloud to touch other kids?
If you ask me, it's better for my child's mental health to not be made to feel like she is inferior to adults, cause she isn't, then afterwards, after school, she will be even more upset, she will have attended school to see her friends to find out she can't go near them or talk to them ( can't have a classroom full of shouting kids now can we?)
Now I also have to explain that even though she is fine to go school, she still can't see her grandparents or great grand parent, or still go out and play, cause she needs to protect others, but her life is OK to risk? No way... Lol... |
Up to you, as the schools have said. Not that difficult to explain to a kid that old people are the ones who get it far worse. So far based on UK death figures children under 15 have a 1 in 5.3 million chance of dying from the virus, so about the same as dying in a plane crash.
You never took your child on a plane either?
The new inflammatory Illness is more of a concern though. | |
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