| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 13:27 - Feb 5 with 4952 views | 1576 |
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| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 13:29 - Feb 5 with 4946 views | 1576 |
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| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 16:11 - Feb 5 with 4859 views | this_charming_man |
what success? |  |
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| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 16:43 - Feb 5 with 4841 views | dirk_doone |
"Saints success is down to MY vision" Rupert/Les
There needs to be a battle rap between Rupert and Les to sort out, once and for all, which of them it was that really made Southampton one of the most successful football clubs in the world. [Post edited 5 Feb 2020 17:27]
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| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 16:57 - Feb 5 with 4816 views | Ron11 |
Sack Nigel Pearson and follow it up with a double relegation.
Pay a Rugby expert a huge salary for fu ck all.
There must be more... | | | |
| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 19:17 - Feb 5 with 4738 views | this_charming_man |
He’s right about a couple of things though. Wilde did go sh1t or bust from promotion and that was what caused the problems. Plus football is corrupt with the fans an after thought | |
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| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 19:26 - Feb 5 with 4725 views | Occasional_Showers |
Rupert is right. He is perhaps the greatest club legend for a generation. |  |
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| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 19:42 - Feb 5 with 4710 views | thissceptredsaint |
Didn't he really piss off Gordon Strachan?
Appointing Redknapp in a childish game of one upmanship was particularly annoying |  | | |
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| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 19:59 - Feb 5 with 4693 views | Happy_Jack |
| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 19:42 - Feb 5 by thissceptredsaint |
Didn't he really piss off Gordon Strachan?
Appointing Redknapp in a childish game of one upmanship was particularly annoying |
I could be wrong but I seem to remember Lowe didn't want to appoint Redknapp but was out voted. Someone will no doubt confirm if this is true or false. |  |
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| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 20:48 - Feb 5 with 4664 views | this_charming_man |
| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 19:59 - Feb 5 by Happy_Jack |
I could be wrong but I seem to remember Lowe didn't want to appoint Redknapp but was out voted. Someone will no doubt confirm if this is true or false. |
I’m sure he turned him and David Moyes down when hoddle left appoint Stuart gray instead | |
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| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 21:50 - Feb 5 with 4635 views | kernow |
No fan of Rupert Lowe but it's true that St Mary's was built on time within budget on his watch. | | | |
| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 11:19 - Feb 8 with 4491 views | SaintNick |
| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 21:50 - Feb 5 by kernow |
No fan of Rupert Lowe but it's true that St Mary's was built on time within budget on his watch. |
The truth is never ever black & white, Lowe did some good things for Saints and he made some mistakes, he should be rightly blamed for the mistakes he made, but as someone pointed out the man who started our downfall was Michael Wilde who signed players for wages that the club did not have the money to pay and put us on the brink of oblivion.
One thing Lowe should not be blamed for was when he returned, he came back to a club that was on the verge of administration before the season even started, he did not sack Nigel Pearson, Pearson was only on a deal to the end of the previous season, the club could not afford Pearson and indeed the manager did not want to take charge of a club that had no money, could go bankrupt at any time and was having to try and sell players to get money to pay the bills and play youngsters.
Lowe was stupid for coming back, he did his best to try and keep the club afloat, but ultimately got no kudos for that just got blamed for a financial situation that was not of his making.
This of course does not fit in with the romanticised version of events. |  |
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| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 13:59 - Feb 8 with 4436 views | BuenosSaint |
| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 11:19 - Feb 8 by SaintNick |
The truth is never ever black & white, Lowe did some good things for Saints and he made some mistakes, he should be rightly blamed for the mistakes he made, but as someone pointed out the man who started our downfall was Michael Wilde who signed players for wages that the club did not have the money to pay and put us on the brink of oblivion.
One thing Lowe should not be blamed for was when he returned, he came back to a club that was on the verge of administration before the season even started, he did not sack Nigel Pearson, Pearson was only on a deal to the end of the previous season, the club could not afford Pearson and indeed the manager did not want to take charge of a club that had no money, could go bankrupt at any time and was having to try and sell players to get money to pay the bills and play youngsters.
Lowe was stupid for coming back, he did his best to try and keep the club afloat, but ultimately got no kudos for that just got blamed for a financial situation that was not of his making.
This of course does not fit in with the romanticised version of events. |
One thing I'll rate him for is that he never feared meeting the fans. I'm not talking about a cherry picked fan group but at least once a year he rocked up in a London pub and met the London saints. Sure he did it for northern saints too. Also would take away sensible suggestions to implement if possible. | |
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| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 14:56 - Feb 8 with 4413 views | Ron11 |
| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 11:19 - Feb 8 by SaintNick |
The truth is never ever black & white, Lowe did some good things for Saints and he made some mistakes, he should be rightly blamed for the mistakes he made, but as someone pointed out the man who started our downfall was Michael Wilde who signed players for wages that the club did not have the money to pay and put us on the brink of oblivion.
One thing Lowe should not be blamed for was when he returned, he came back to a club that was on the verge of administration before the season even started, he did not sack Nigel Pearson, Pearson was only on a deal to the end of the previous season, the club could not afford Pearson and indeed the manager did not want to take charge of a club that had no money, could go bankrupt at any time and was having to try and sell players to get money to pay the bills and play youngsters.
Lowe was stupid for coming back, he did his best to try and keep the club afloat, but ultimately got no kudos for that just got blamed for a financial situation that was not of his making.
This of course does not fit in with the romanticised version of events. |
OK so he didn't renew Nigel Pearson's contract, probably because Pearson didn't kiss his arse and to fly in the face of general opinion. Pearson would almost certainly avoided Saints relegation.
Look at Watford now.
Brought in Wigley, Woodward, then the final insult - Redknapp to take Saints down.
Redknapp, who then stated he wanted a break from football, then went straight back to Portsmouth.
Relegation and humiliation. | | | |
| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 14:59 - Feb 8 with 4410 views | Ron11 |
| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 13:59 - Feb 8 by BuenosSaint |
One thing I'll rate him for is that he never feared meeting the fans. I'm not talking about a cherry picked fan group but at least once a year he rocked up in a London pub and met the London saints. Sure he did it for northern saints too. Also would take away sensible suggestions to implement if possible. |
Yes I remember the curtains being closed in the protesting fans faces at St Mary's.
After taking their money, of course. | | | |
| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 18:04 - Feb 8 with 4373 views | TripleNiemi |
| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 11:19 - Feb 8 by SaintNick |
The truth is never ever black & white, Lowe did some good things for Saints and he made some mistakes, he should be rightly blamed for the mistakes he made, but as someone pointed out the man who started our downfall was Michael Wilde who signed players for wages that the club did not have the money to pay and put us on the brink of oblivion.
One thing Lowe should not be blamed for was when he returned, he came back to a club that was on the verge of administration before the season even started, he did not sack Nigel Pearson, Pearson was only on a deal to the end of the previous season, the club could not afford Pearson and indeed the manager did not want to take charge of a club that had no money, could go bankrupt at any time and was having to try and sell players to get money to pay the bills and play youngsters.
Lowe was stupid for coming back, he did his best to try and keep the club afloat, but ultimately got no kudos for that just got blamed for a financial situation that was not of his making.
This of course does not fit in with the romanticised version of events. |
He came back purely and simply because he had shares in the club / PLC and hwas trying to prevent losing the value of the investment. Mind you, the whole share issue when the reverse takeover happened was a disgrace in the first place. Seem to recall Lowe, McMen, Souness and a few other board members doing very nicely when Secure Retirements or whatever they were called got involved with our flotation.
Mind you, for all things bad Lowe did, the stadium was all his and Cowans baby so absolute respect for delivering a stadium which was long, long overdue.
Make no doubts, without St. Marys i personally do not believe Marcus or any other sound investor would have saved us if we had not have had such a decent infrastructure. Marcus could not lose on his £15m investment as the ground, Staplewood etc. would have comfortably covered his loan. |  |
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| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 10:18 - Feb 9 with 4265 views | Ron11 |
| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 18:04 - Feb 8 by TripleNiemi |
He came back purely and simply because he had shares in the club / PLC and hwas trying to prevent losing the value of the investment. Mind you, the whole share issue when the reverse takeover happened was a disgrace in the first place. Seem to recall Lowe, McMen, Souness and a few other board members doing very nicely when Secure Retirements or whatever they were called got involved with our flotation.
Mind you, for all things bad Lowe did, the stadium was all his and Cowans baby so absolute respect for delivering a stadium which was long, long overdue.
Make no doubts, without St. Marys i personally do not believe Marcus or any other sound investor would have saved us if we had not have had such a decent infrastructure. Marcus could not lose on his £15m investment as the ground, Staplewood etc. would have comfortably covered his loan. |
Cowan did the Lion's share of the work, and Lowe took most of the credit! | | | |
| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 13:08 - Feb 9 with 4218 views | dirk_doone |
| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 11:19 - Feb 8 by SaintNick |
The truth is never ever black & white, Lowe did some good things for Saints and he made some mistakes, he should be rightly blamed for the mistakes he made, but as someone pointed out the man who started our downfall was Michael Wilde who signed players for wages that the club did not have the money to pay and put us on the brink of oblivion.
One thing Lowe should not be blamed for was when he returned, he came back to a club that was on the verge of administration before the season even started, he did not sack Nigel Pearson, Pearson was only on a deal to the end of the previous season, the club could not afford Pearson and indeed the manager did not want to take charge of a club that had no money, could go bankrupt at any time and was having to try and sell players to get money to pay the bills and play youngsters.
Lowe was stupid for coming back, he did his best to try and keep the club afloat, but ultimately got no kudos for that just got blamed for a financial situation that was not of his making.
This of course does not fit in with the romanticised version of events. |
https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/18221981.ruperts-lowe-down-different-mine/?ref | |
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| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 21:55 - Feb 9 with 4079 views | SaintNick |
| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 18:04 - Feb 8 by TripleNiemi |
He came back purely and simply because he had shares in the club / PLC and hwas trying to prevent losing the value of the investment. Mind you, the whole share issue when the reverse takeover happened was a disgrace in the first place. Seem to recall Lowe, McMen, Souness and a few other board members doing very nicely when Secure Retirements or whatever they were called got involved with our flotation.
Mind you, for all things bad Lowe did, the stadium was all his and Cowans baby so absolute respect for delivering a stadium which was long, long overdue.
Make no doubts, without St. Marys i personally do not believe Marcus or any other sound investor would have saved us if we had not have had such a decent infrastructure. Marcus could not lose on his £15m investment as the ground, Staplewood etc. would have comfortably covered his loan. |
Sorry but you really do need to read up on a subject before spouting off on it.
Lowe was not a board member when the reverse takeover happened, he arrived at the Dell as part of that reverse takeover and yes he did benefit, but he unlike several other so called local businessmen who did benefit did so as a business opportunity for himself, not shafting a football club he professed to be a lifelong supporter of.
McMenemy would have been a minor shareholder and would have had little benefit and Souness was the team manager and not a board member not a shareholder and would have had no financial gain.
The reverse takeover was driven by our then board of directors not Secure Retirement who were just offered a business opportunity. | |
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| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 21:57 - Feb 9 with 4078 views | SaintNick |
Funnily enough McMenemy's version differs from mine as well, I would not pay too much attention to it, his book a few years ago was a settling of old scores including Lowe, so you will not get an unbiased opinion from him | |
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| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 22:04 - Feb 9 with 4070 views | SaintNick |
| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 14:56 - Feb 8 by Ron11 |
OK so he didn't renew Nigel Pearson's contract, probably because Pearson didn't kiss his arse and to fly in the face of general opinion. Pearson would almost certainly avoided Saints relegation.
Look at Watford now.
Brought in Wigley, Woodward, then the final insult - Redknapp to take Saints down.
Redknapp, who then stated he wanted a break from football, then went straight back to Portsmouth.
Relegation and humiliation. |
Lowe barely met Pearson, would Pearson have avoided relegation that season, I am not so sure given that he would have had to play all the youngsters including the one incoming transfer a teenager called Morgan Schneiderlin.
Peason did not want the job, he was already tapped up for Leicester City job, his actual record at Saints was not that spectacular only 3 wins a very similar appointment to Mark Hughes where we stumbled to survival on the last day relying on other teams to fail rather than our own good form | |
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| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 22:08 - Feb 9 with 4061 views | PatfromPoole |
| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 21:55 - Feb 9 by SaintNick |
Sorry but you really do need to read up on a subject before spouting off on it.
Lowe was not a board member when the reverse takeover happened, he arrived at the Dell as part of that reverse takeover and yes he did benefit, but he unlike several other so called local businessmen who did benefit did so as a business opportunity for himself, not shafting a football club he professed to be a lifelong supporter of.
McMenemy would have been a minor shareholder and would have had little benefit and Souness was the team manager and not a board member not a shareholder and would have had no financial gain.
The reverse takeover was driven by our then board of directors not Secure Retirement who were just offered a business opportunity. |
I seem to recall tales of Askham and his band of charlatans on the old SFC board persuading a frail elderly shareholder (his name escapes me) to virtually gift his shares to them, so that they got his windfall.
It all seemed rather sordid. |  |
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| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 22:10 - Feb 9 with 4059 views | SaintNick |
| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 22:08 - Feb 9 by PatfromPoole |
I seem to recall tales of Askham and his band of charlatans on the old SFC board persuading a frail elderly shareholder (his name escapes me) to virtually gift his shares to them, so that they got his windfall.
It all seemed rather sordid. |
Yep they went around saying that there was a gentlemans agreement that shares could only be sold back to the club for the £1 paid for them as it was all about being custodians etc | |
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| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 22:22 - Feb 9 with 4046 views | PatfromPoole |
| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 22:10 - Feb 9 by SaintNick |
Yep they went around saying that there was a gentlemans agreement that shares could only be sold back to the club for the £1 paid for them as it was all about being custodians etc |
Not the sort of antics a partner in a firm of chartered accountants in Southampton should have been involved in...... | |
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| Rupert Lowe in today's rag... on 23:16 - Feb 9 with 4033 views | this_charming_man |
Iirc askham and co absolutely f8cked the club over the only ones to gain from the deal was them making a fortune from their shares, investing nothing but making loads. Lowe became a reluctant chairman and we embarked on our self sustainable model of transfers being funded by sales. Sound familiar? | |
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