| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 16:45 - Sep 7 with 8862 views | Northernr |
Appointing Redknapp should be a points deduction by itself TBF.
Sheff Wed will face similar when their next set of accounts come out. |  | |  |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 16:51 - Sep 7 with 8832 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
They are not QPR so I expect they are let off with 3 more verbal warnings then 6 written warnings and but that time all fines and points deductions to be abolished.
Apart from where involving QPR. |  |
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| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 17:03 - Sep 7 with 8775 views | Antti_Heinola |
Even if they get a 12 point deduction, Facebook will still be full of knobs screaming at Tottenham Les for not buying more players. |  |
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| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 17:06 - Sep 7 with 8774 views | isawqpratwcity |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 16:45 - Sep 7 by Northernr |
Appointing Redknapp should be a points deduction by itself TBF.
Sheff Wed will face similar when their next set of accounts come out. |
Isn't there also an all-clubs preliminary FFP examination on projected figures in March, too? There may be even more clubs in trouble this season. |  |
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| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 17:24 - Sep 7 with 8725 views | Northernr |
Worth mentioning again that having signed 14 players already last summer, and then won only one of the first dozen games and lost six in a row, 'Arry said it would have been alright had he been allowed to sign Jordan Hugill from Preston as well - quick £8m there. | | | |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 18:36 - Sep 7 with 8509 views | smegma |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 17:24 - Sep 7 by Northernr |
Worth mentioning again that having signed 14 players already last summer, and then won only one of the first dozen games and lost six in a row, 'Arry said it would have been alright had he been allowed to sign Jordan Hugill from Preston as well - quick £8m there. |
He's a triffik lad |  | | |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 18:40 - Sep 7 with 8503 views | BklynRanger |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 17:24 - Sep 7 by Northernr |
Worth mentioning again that having signed 14 players already last summer, and then won only one of the first dozen games and lost six in a row, 'Arry said it would have been alright had he been allowed to sign Jordan Hugill from Preston as well - quick £8m there. |
"So 5 % of 8 mill equals, eh......here, stick that envelope in the dog's bed Sandra there's a love" |  | | |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 19:24 - Sep 7 with 8383 views | loftboy |
Can someone post the full article as it says I have to subscribe, thanks |  |
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| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 19:26 - Sep 7 with 8380 views | connell10 |
Im not a betting man but if i was id wager they wont get a points deduction! |  |
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| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 20:01 - Sep 7 with 8269 views | TacticalR |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 19:24 - Sep 7 by loftboy |
Can someone post the full article as it says I have to subscribe, thanks |
The Telegraph lets you read one free article a week if you create an account (I use a separate email address when signing up to those kind of accounts so I don't get a load of spam).
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/contact-us/subscriptions/ |  |
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| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 20:45 - Sep 7 with 8142 views | loftus77 |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 19:26 - Sep 7 by connell10 |
Im not a betting man but if i was id wager they wont get a points deduction! |
This.
Great story - and the only good thing Harry has ever done for us - but I'd be amazed if it happened. Large fine at worst. | | | |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 22:08 - Sep 7 with 7934 views | GroveR |
Player wages of £217 for every £100 income (ours was £195 in 2013/14) apparently. The league should really be looking at a fit and proper managers test. |  | | |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 23:13 - Sep 7 with 7849 views | Lblock |
If you want to appear credible, impartial and fair and reasonable then you don’t do one person by your rules, you do others and especially those who’ve done similar or worse.
My theory at the time was the authorities wouldn’t go proper lenient due to precedent being set as they had others in their sights. Seems to be the case.
I’d sooner it was others but they’re not high on my list of likeable clubs... plus the stench of CandleFace lives on
Farcical Fcukin Policy no matter |  |
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| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 00:13 - Sep 8 with 7744 views | Toast_R |
FFP surely has to be f*cked off. Fans will start to lose interest in their clubs whilst clubs are subject to these long drawn out uncertain processes whereby the clubs gets f*cked one way or another but no one knows when. Usually all the sh*t accumilates after a disaterous season where a lot of fans are at their wits end anyway. Right now you could be inclined to f*ck this season off as we're not able to mount a challenge being in the third year of the scrutiny, and come back next season when the new three year period begins and the club can spend again. It's going to kill football. |  | | |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 03:56 - Sep 8 with 7636 views | timcocking |
I'll tell you now, the only team who will ever get a huge fine for breaching "ffp" will be QPR.
Mindblowing that Harry Redknapp could get a job as a football manager. I should apply... |  | | |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 07:22 - Sep 8 with 7499 views | distortR |
I imagine Birmingham will go down our route of dragging the process out for as long as possible.
From a layman's point of view, I don't quite understand how we lost the case, although i accept the ramifications of having done so. | | | |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 07:59 - Sep 8 with 7434 views | CamberleyR |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 00:13 - Sep 8 by Toast_R |
FFP surely has to be f*cked off. Fans will start to lose interest in their clubs whilst clubs are subject to these long drawn out uncertain processes whereby the clubs gets f*cked one way or another but no one knows when. Usually all the sh*t accumilates after a disaterous season where a lot of fans are at their wits end anyway. Right now you could be inclined to f*ck this season off as we're not able to mount a challenge being in the third year of the scrutiny, and come back next season when the new three year period begins and the club can spend again. It's going to kill football. |
Don't think it's three years and wipe the slate clean, it's three years rolling isn't it? |  |
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| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 09:22 - Sep 8 with 7309 views | bosh67 |
I suspect the league will find a way of deducting points from us in the process. |  |
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| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 09:49 - Sep 8 with 7250 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 09:22 - Sep 8 by bosh67 |
I suspect the league will find a way of deducting points from us in the process. |
Yes for inciting overspend. | |
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| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 10:10 - Sep 8 with 7208 views | terryb |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 16:45 - Sep 7 by Northernr |
Appointing Redknapp should be a points deduction by itself TBF.
Sheff Wed will face similar when their next set of accounts come out. |
I don't think Sheffield Wednesday will suffer as large a sentence as Birmingham. It was the signing of the player from Union Berlin that has brought the wrath of the EFL on to them, whilst Wednesday kept to their embargo.
However, I would expect Villa & Forest, if not promoted, to be treated in the same vein as Brum due to their complete disregard to the FFP regulations. Any other action would lead to further clubs ignoring the rules in the same fashion whereas prosecuting to the full may act as a deterrent.
A 12 point deduction IMO would not be likely, but I can see a 3 or 6 point deduction as quite feasible. | | | |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 10:21 - Sep 8 with 7195 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 07:59 - Sep 8 by CamberleyR |
Don't think it's three years and wipe the slate clean, it's three years rolling isn't it? |
Yep! a 3 year rolling maximum of £39m losses. |  |
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| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 12:53 - Sep 8 with 6992 views | TacticalR |
So, are we for or against Birmingham on FFP? | |
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| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 12:53 - Sep 8 with 6990 views | terryb |
As Birmingham are also carrying a loss of over £52 million from the last two seasons, they will have to register a profit of more than £13 million this season to avoid further transgressions!
Thus our transfer policy has been explained in full! | | | |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 13:28 - Sep 8 with 6927 views | davman |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 00:13 - Sep 8 by Toast_R |
FFP surely has to be f*cked off. Fans will start to lose interest in their clubs whilst clubs are subject to these long drawn out uncertain processes whereby the clubs gets f*cked one way or another but no one knows when. Usually all the sh*t accumilates after a disaterous season where a lot of fans are at their wits end anyway. Right now you could be inclined to f*ck this season off as we're not able to mount a challenge being in the third year of the scrutiny, and come back next season when the new three year period begins and the club can spend again. It's going to kill football. |
I would agree apart from two things:
1. The football authorities do not listen to fans;
2. Although there appears to be a general murmuring on message boards such as this (quite rightly), I see no solid movement of fans across the board to challenge this. There are enough of us to make the authorities listen, but deep down, there aren't many who are prepared to follow interest up with a dedicated campaign to influence the authorities, so why should they listen?
Every football fan outside the top 6 (and maybe Everton too) should be very interested in influencing the authorities to do something about it, but those in the promised land are generally too arrogant to worry as they believe that their team is 'established' in the top flight and will never have to worry about getting someone to inject funding into their club to sustain a push to get back into the big money league once they fall out of it, because they won't...
I say it again. If the key issue FFP (or profitability and sustainment) rules are trying to protect is owners over committing clubs to debt they cannot service (like what happened to Portsmouth), then owners providing funds up front to cover their commitments or wiping debt is the way to go about it.
Effectively, what our owners tried to do... |  |
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| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 14:21 - Sep 8 with 6838 views | distortR |
| Birmingham in deep doo doo on 12:53 - Sep 8 by TacticalR |
So, are we for or against Birmingham on FFP? |
we don't really know, but i imagine all teams except us are flaunting ffp and should be deducted 12 points with immediate effect, which would probably leave us comfortably mid-table for a couple of weeks.
edit - birmingham are wrong, in so many ways, but ffp is undoubtedly wronger. [Post edited 8 Sep 2018 14:22]
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