So the window is open. 10:41 - Jan 1 with 17990 views | ClitheroeDale | Here's hoping we can fend off any bids for this wonderful young side Mr Hill has assembled and Scott goes for mega money. If Scott is sold I wonder if we will strengthen. On current form anybody brought in would need to be one he'll of a player. Up the Dale. | | | | |
So the window is open. on 22:39 - Jan 1 with 4683 views | TVOS1907 |
So the window is open. on 22:37 - Jan 1 by PDIDDY | Trying to bully me off here 😱 |
No, you can stay. | |
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So the window is open. on 16:50 - Jan 2 with 4138 views | Ninco | Heard rumours at Friday's game that NML is going. | | | |
So the window is open. on 18:29 - Jan 2 with 3999 views | D_Dale |
So the window is open. on 16:50 - Jan 2 by Ninco | Heard rumours at Friday's game that NML is going. |
Well, maybe by bringing him on today as an apparently unnecessary 94th minute sub for Rathbone, Hilly was marking his farewell appearance. Any player with a few goals and a bit of pace is bound to attract some interest from clubs who want more scoring options - and that's probably about half of L1. I'd be surprised if there's interest at a higher level: his pre-Dale career wasn't anything special and his 9 league goals in 52 appearances for Dale isn't spectacular. Most managers like to have a dabble in the transfer market, but I'd expect KH to rely on his younger players to fill any gap left by MNL. No doubt he'll be keen to keep Keith Keane's services. I'm not sure when that loan period was due to end - nor that for Sanmi Odelusi, though maybe he's already back at his home club. Dale's main interest in the transfer window looks like waiting to see whether Scott Hogan moves. If he does, any cash would probably be better earmarked for improving the stadium and negotiating contract extensions. As for the younger players nurtured by Hilly - Camps, Rafferty, Allen, Cannon, Bunney, Rathbone - though they'd all find other clubs if released, I doubt any are at the level of attracting the sort of bids that the club would find it hard to reject. | | | |
So the window is open. on 18:34 - Jan 2 with 3971 views | olympicdale |
So the window is open. on 16:50 - Jan 2 by Ninco | Heard rumours at Friday's game that NML is going. |
Hill has already stated that no one will be leaving in January. As good as NML is, he isnt a goal scorer, not even at double figures for the Dale. He has great strength and dribbling ability, but he hasn't shone enough at Dale to warrent a big enough offer that would tempt us to sell him. The January transfer window is the desperation window, clubs want goalscorers to keep them up or get them up, NML will not do either. Im a massive fan of his, he is vital to how we play, hope he gets back to fitness soon. [Post edited 2 Jan 2017 18:52]
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So the window is open. on 18:37 - Jan 2 with 3947 views | aleanddale |
So the window is open. on 15:56 - Jan 1 by ColDale | To replace Mayor. How much do you think Mayor will cost us? 80 grand? |
Think we could get him for £50k. Would he fit into our play though he is very inconsistent. Could be worth a risk if he took a significant pay cut. At least we would put him back in the shop window. 15 league games now for the gigglers no win. 2 points from 45 available. They were second though in September | | | |
So the window is open. on 19:20 - Jan 2 with 3832 views | Billie |
So the window is open. on 16:50 - Jan 2 by Ninco | Heard rumours at Friday's game that NML is going. |
Start another thread about it. You could call it: NML gone... Or has he? | | | |
So the window is open. on 20:09 - Jan 2 with 3695 views | TVOS1907 |
So the window is open. on 18:34 - Jan 2 by olympicdale | Hill has already stated that no one will be leaving in January. As good as NML is, he isnt a goal scorer, not even at double figures for the Dale. He has great strength and dribbling ability, but he hasn't shone enough at Dale to warrent a big enough offer that would tempt us to sell him. The January transfer window is the desperation window, clubs want goalscorers to keep them up or get them up, NML will not do either. Im a massive fan of his, he is vital to how we play, hope he gets back to fitness soon. [Post edited 2 Jan 2017 18:52]
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He's scored 14 goals for Dale. | |
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So the window is open. on 20:14 - Jan 2 with 3655 views | olympicdale |
So the window is open. on 20:09 - Jan 2 by TVOS1907 | He's scored 14 goals for Dale. |
I was going by his league goals. | |
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So the window is open. on 20:22 - Jan 2 with 3605 views | SaxonDale |
So the window is open. on 18:29 - Jan 2 by D_Dale | Well, maybe by bringing him on today as an apparently unnecessary 94th minute sub for Rathbone, Hilly was marking his farewell appearance. Any player with a few goals and a bit of pace is bound to attract some interest from clubs who want more scoring options - and that's probably about half of L1. I'd be surprised if there's interest at a higher level: his pre-Dale career wasn't anything special and his 9 league goals in 52 appearances for Dale isn't spectacular. Most managers like to have a dabble in the transfer market, but I'd expect KH to rely on his younger players to fill any gap left by MNL. No doubt he'll be keen to keep Keith Keane's services. I'm not sure when that loan period was due to end - nor that for Sanmi Odelusi, though maybe he's already back at his home club. Dale's main interest in the transfer window looks like waiting to see whether Scott Hogan moves. If he does, any cash would probably be better earmarked for improving the stadium and negotiating contract extensions. As for the younger players nurtured by Hilly - Camps, Rafferty, Allen, Cannon, Bunney, Rathbone - though they'd all find other clubs if released, I doubt any are at the level of attracting the sort of bids that the club would find it hard to reject. |
I would have thought the opposite could be true. A 94th minute appearance in a league win could gift NML a win bonus extra of a few hundred quid. Maybe a thank you for his professionalism in training and to let him know he's still in Hill's plans. | | | |
So the window is open. on 20:33 - Jan 2 with 3546 views | BigDaveMyCock |
So the window is open. on 18:34 - Jan 2 by olympicdale | Hill has already stated that no one will be leaving in January. As good as NML is, he isnt a goal scorer, not even at double figures for the Dale. He has great strength and dribbling ability, but he hasn't shone enough at Dale to warrent a big enough offer that would tempt us to sell him. The January transfer window is the desperation window, clubs want goalscorers to keep them up or get them up, NML will not do either. Im a massive fan of his, he is vital to how we play, hope he gets back to fitness soon. [Post edited 2 Jan 2017 18:52]
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Surely managers will be seeking to address whatever area of their squad requires improving? If a team is shipping goals a manager will be desperate for a defender/goalkeeper or if their squad lacks width they will be looking for wide players etc. If what you say is true then only strikers would move in the January window. This is clearly not the case and never has been ?? | |
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So the window is open. on 20:34 - Jan 2 with 3530 views | TVOS1907 |
So the window is open. on 20:14 - Jan 2 by olympicdale | I was going by his league goals. |
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So the window is open. on 21:01 - Jan 2 with 3397 views | D_Dale |
So the window is open. on 20:22 - Jan 2 by SaxonDale | I would have thought the opposite could be true. A 94th minute appearance in a league win could gift NML a win bonus extra of a few hundred quid. Maybe a thank you for his professionalism in training and to let him know he's still in Hill's plans. |
Hilly has got a habit of making very late substitutions: NML and Jamie Allen in the 85th minute vs Shrewsbury, Allen and Cannon (89th min) vs Chesterfield, Cannon and NML (89th min) vs Scunthorpe. If it is a way of bunging a few hundred quid to a couple of those on the bench, I wonder if those who don't get picked are happy about it - and are Chris Dunphy and the directors! Earlier in the season, Sanmi Odelusi made several last-few-minutes appearances. Maybe Wigan were picking up the tab. | | | |
So the window is open. on 22:03 - Jan 2 with 3278 views | 1mark1 |
So the window is open. on 21:01 - Jan 2 by D_Dale | Hilly has got a habit of making very late substitutions: NML and Jamie Allen in the 85th minute vs Shrewsbury, Allen and Cannon (89th min) vs Chesterfield, Cannon and NML (89th min) vs Scunthorpe. If it is a way of bunging a few hundred quid to a couple of those on the bench, I wonder if those who don't get picked are happy about it - and are Chris Dunphy and the directors! Earlier in the season, Sanmi Odelusi made several last-few-minutes appearances. Maybe Wigan were picking up the tab. |
Or maybe a way to kill off a a bit of time? | |
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So the window is open. on 22:34 - Jan 2 with 3155 views | nordenblue |
So the window is open. on 22:03 - Jan 2 by 1mark1 | Or maybe a way to kill off a a bit of time? |
It doesn't though as the ref adds additional time on for each sub...... | | | |
So the window is open. on 22:55 - Jan 2 with 3072 views | dingdangblue |
So the window is open. on 18:29 - Jan 2 by D_Dale | Well, maybe by bringing him on today as an apparently unnecessary 94th minute sub for Rathbone, Hilly was marking his farewell appearance. Any player with a few goals and a bit of pace is bound to attract some interest from clubs who want more scoring options - and that's probably about half of L1. I'd be surprised if there's interest at a higher level: his pre-Dale career wasn't anything special and his 9 league goals in 52 appearances for Dale isn't spectacular. Most managers like to have a dabble in the transfer market, but I'd expect KH to rely on his younger players to fill any gap left by MNL. No doubt he'll be keen to keep Keith Keane's services. I'm not sure when that loan period was due to end - nor that for Sanmi Odelusi, though maybe he's already back at his home club. Dale's main interest in the transfer window looks like waiting to see whether Scott Hogan moves. If he does, any cash would probably be better earmarked for improving the stadium and negotiating contract extensions. As for the younger players nurtured by Hilly - Camps, Rafferty, Allen, Cannon, Bunney, Rathbone - though they'd all find other clubs if released, I doubt any are at the level of attracting the sort of bids that the club would find it hard to reject. |
"As for the younger players nurtured by Hilly - Camps, Rafferty, Allen, Cannon, Bunney, Rathbone - though they'd all find other clubs if released, I doubt any are at the level of attracting the sort of bids that the club would find it hard to reject." I'd say Camps was a player we could get a million for. | |
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So the window is open. on 23:19 - Jan 2 with 2926 views | olympicdale |
So the window is open. on 20:34 - Jan 2 by TVOS1907 | Oh! |
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So the window is open. on 23:23 - Jan 2 with 2899 views | olympicdale |
So the window is open. on 20:33 - Jan 2 by BigDaveMyCock | Surely managers will be seeking to address whatever area of their squad requires improving? If a team is shipping goals a manager will be desperate for a defender/goalkeeper or if their squad lacks width they will be looking for wide players etc. If what you say is true then only strikers would move in the January window. This is clearly not the case and never has been ?? |
I did not say that only strikers went in the January transfer window. I said it is often goalscorers that get bigger moves come January, when clubs are desperate to make a push for promotion or scramble to stay up, be that an attacking midfielder or a winger/striker. I don't see NML commanding a big enough fee that it would tempt us to sell him under these circumstances. [Post edited 2 Jan 2017 23:32]
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So the window is open. on 23:25 - Jan 2 with 2875 views | olympicdale |
So the window is open. on 22:55 - Jan 2 by dingdangblue | "As for the younger players nurtured by Hilly - Camps, Rafferty, Allen, Cannon, Bunney, Rathbone - though they'd all find other clubs if released, I doubt any are at the level of attracting the sort of bids that the club would find it hard to reject." I'd say Camps was a player we could get a million for. |
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So the window is open. on 06:09 - Jan 3 with 2689 views | 1mark1 |
So the window is open. on 22:34 - Jan 2 by nordenblue | It doesn't though as the ref adds additional time on for each sub...... |
In theory yes, however I would not be surprised if the amount added by the ref is not as much that is actually taken by each substitution, and the break up in play/momentum. | |
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So the window is open. on 08:15 - Jan 3 with 2585 views | rochedale |
So the window is open. on 06:09 - Jan 3 by 1mark1 | In theory yes, however I would not be surprised if the amount added by the ref is not as much that is actually taken by each substitution, and the break up in play/momentum. |
I think it is 30 seconds added per substitution. | |
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So the window is open. on 08:57 - Jan 3 with 2518 views | nordenblue |
So the window is open. on 08:15 - Jan 3 by rochedale | I think it is 30 seconds added per substitution. |
It is 30 seconds I believe,and it doesn't take any longer for a player to run onto the pitch so hardly a crafty tactic... | | | |
So the window is open. on 15:00 - Jan 3 with 2342 views | pioneer |
So the window is open. on 08:57 - Jan 3 by nordenblue | It is 30 seconds I believe,and it doesn't take any longer for a player to run onto the pitch so hardly a crafty tactic... |
Try timing it. Managers looking to waste time sub a player from far side of pitch who often plays the distracted attention card. Play is stopped for far more than 30 seconds. | | | |
So the window is open. on 15:31 - Jan 3 with 2215 views | 1mark1 |
So the window is open. on 15:00 - Jan 3 by pioneer | Try timing it. Managers looking to waste time sub a player from far side of pitch who often plays the distracted attention card. Play is stopped for far more than 30 seconds. |
I agree. Someone marked me down for suggesting such a thing, without being able to put forward a counter argument, but it happens , often with substitutions. NOT saying Dale do it on purpose to waste time, but some do. | |
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So the window is open. on 18:08 - Jan 3 with 1937 views | boromat | The late substitutions aren't as much about wasting time as breaking up the play and slowing the tempo of the game. Players also go onto the pitch with very specific instructions. Anyway back to the OP yes silly season has begun! I can see this being a big spending window! Edit: Obviously not for us but in general. [Post edited 3 Jan 2017 18:09]
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So the window is open. on 18:23 - Jan 3 with 1872 views | macro | Odelusi… Seems to have disappeared | | | |
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