| Next England manager? 22:59 - Jun 27 with 11015 views | MoonyDale |
Who is next for the poisoned chalice? |  |
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| Next England manager? on 14:48 - Jun 30 with 2515 views | ChaffRAFC |
Gary Neville |  |
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| Next England manager? on 09:25 - Jul 1 with 2357 views | TomRAFC |
| Next England manager? on 14:48 - Jun 30 by ChaffRAFC |
Gary Neville |
I know we both like Neville as a pundit Chaff but I've got to disagree with you on this one.
Woeful as a manager at Valencia and he was part of the team we are trying to have a fresh start from.
Hodgson wasn't all bad as he is being made out to be, but he certainly never settled on a set of tactics even when we played well. His almost homoerotic obsession with Jack Wilshere didn't help either... |  |
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| Next England manager? on 18:21 - Jul 1 with 2270 views | 1mark1 |
| Next England manager? on 14:48 - Jun 30 by ChaffRAFC |
Gary Neville |
We need an experienced manager, with at least some success , of either winning things as a manager or someone with a proven track record of bringing out the best of players, like West Ham's Bilic, Eddie Howe, Big Sam. Don't like Big Sam as a person, but he does have a good record especially at Bolton, of making the most out of limited resources. Neville has no managerial success in any way at all, and is part of the failed current set up. |  |
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| Next England manager? on 19:27 - Jul 1 with 2243 views | ChaffRAFC |
| Next England manager? on 18:21 - Jul 1 by 1mark1 |
We need an experienced manager, with at least some success , of either winning things as a manager or someone with a proven track record of bringing out the best of players, like West Ham's Bilic, Eddie Howe, Big Sam. Don't like Big Sam as a person, but he does have a good record especially at Bolton, of making the most out of limited resources. Neville has no managerial success in any way at all, and is part of the failed current set up. |
Keith Hill was part of the failed management team of 2004-6 and had no managerial experience when he got the job.
Gary Neville is forever being judged on his Valencia term, which is the only job he can be judged on, I get that, but he went to a foreign country to start his managerial career, a league he's never played or coached in, didn't speak the language and it's seen as a massive failure. It wasn't a good spell, but the circumstances were far from ideal. There would be nobody more passionate for the job than him, he's nearly a hundred caps at international level, is very in touch with modern football and has football knowledge to burn and knows the current crop of England players very well.
He'd be my number one choice.
Failing that, Cantona!  | |
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| Next England manager? on 19:33 - Jul 1 with 2234 views | 1mark1 |
| Next England manager? on 19:27 - Jul 1 by ChaffRAFC |
Keith Hill was part of the failed management team of 2004-6 and had no managerial experience when he got the job.
Gary Neville is forever being judged on his Valencia term, which is the only job he can be judged on, I get that, but he went to a foreign country to start his managerial career, a league he's never played or coached in, didn't speak the language and it's seen as a massive failure. It wasn't a good spell, but the circumstances were far from ideal. There would be nobody more passionate for the job than him, he's nearly a hundred caps at international level, is very in touch with modern football and has football knowledge to burn and knows the current crop of England players very well.
He'd be my number one choice.
Failing that, Cantona! |
Bit of a difference in a club with very little money and pulling power and England who will be able to match the financial demands of any potential manager they want. No need for England to go looking in the bargain basement. I wouldn't even want Neville as Dale manager if we needed one. | |
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| Next England manager? on 19:39 - Jul 1 with 2231 views | ChaffRAFC |
| Next England manager? on 19:33 - Jul 1 by 1mark1 |
Bit of a difference in a club with very little money and pulling power and England who will be able to match the financial demands of any potential manager they want. No need for England to go looking in the bargain basement. I wouldn't even want Neville as Dale manager if we needed one. |
England's pulling power is very little. Look at the people who are favourite for the job:
Gareth Southgate - really??
Gary Neville
Alan Shearer - Couldn't keep Newcastle up
Glenn Hoddle - Last job was how long ago?
Alan Pardew - Probably one of the better candidates
Jurgen Klinsmann - Would be more than happy with that choice
Harry Redknapp - really??
Eddie Howe - Was getting beat off Keith Hill's Dale in League One
That's not an elite list is it?
Billic would be a top choice, would he want it? No chance. | |
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| Next England manager? on 21:23 - Jul 3 with 2114 views | CamdenDale |
This is a tough one. Massive poisoned chalice. Only 50 or so English born regular starters in the Prem and none in La Ligua etc. Not too concerned about who would get what salary. Here goes:
The Big Sam thing - surely not, Ricky Tom anyone?
Klinsmann - the idea's got something, but really. Decent guy but last knew our players when one of them was called Teddy. On the golf course and tennis court already. Anyway, we've tried this route, Sven, Fabio - i.e. import directly a name merry-go-round 'success' who don't know the Prem beforehand.
Pochettino or Koeman - would give either of these two blokes a go - smart boys - know everything about English players/prem. Hardly likely to leave their jobs though for the chalice. Would you? Solution - give either the thing part time for two years.
Neville (G) - everyone knows we've not heard the last of this bloke. The Valencia thing is neither here nor there. Tarnished by being part of Hodgson's set up but would like to think he wouldn't give the likes of Wilshere, Sterling etc. houseroom, given his own way. [Post edited 3 Jul 2016 21:26]
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| Next England manager? on 21:48 - Jul 3 with 2083 views | BallastBoy |
Please God, never Gary Neville.... I still fail to see what people see in him. Bit like Paul Ince, in theory, he should be capable' but never will be. I'd still go for Martin O'Neil; or Jurgen Klopp. |  | | |
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| Next England manager? on 22:07 - Jul 3 with 2049 views | CamdenDale |
Was suggesting Poch or Koe might be the best choice.
O'Neill and Klopp, seem like aunt sallys to me. The England set up needs culling not mollifying.
N.B. No-one likes Gary Neville - that's a given. I like that about him. The game at bottom level never changes and he played in a team that never gave up - unlike the truly spineless England second half v Iceland. That was Roy's team. | | | |
| Next England manager? on 07:58 - Jul 4 with 1948 views | KenBoon |
The Klinsmann suggestion is quite scary. He underachieved as Germany manager and looked dimly upon by many USA supporters. Personally i'd go with Big Sam. He seems to get the best out of very little and England haven't go much in the way of talent at the moment. |  | | |
| Next England manager? on 09:54 - Jul 4 with 1885 views | Nigeriamark |
whoever it is I would look at having someone from another sport as part of the backroom to get some mental toughness and ruthlessness into the team
Woodward or that guy who runs the Sky cycling team ( forgot his name) - Make tough decisions and don't put up with wallflowers |  | | |
| Next England manager? on 10:01 - Jul 4 with 1873 views | DaleiLama |
| Next England manager? on 09:54 - Jul 4 by Nigeriamark |
whoever it is I would look at having someone from another sport as part of the backroom to get some mental toughness and ruthlessness into the team
Woodward or that guy who runs the Sky cycling team ( forgot his name) - Make tough decisions and don't put up with wallflowers |
Dave Brailsford. Also spear-headed the successful home Olympic cycling efforts |  |
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| Next England manager? on 10:48 - Jul 4 with 1848 views | D_Alien |
| Next England manager? on 10:01 - Jul 4 by DaleiLama |
Dave Brailsford. Also spear-headed the successful home Olympic cycling efforts |
Brailsford would be a great addition to the staff
Would be able to tell any underperforming muppets to get on their bikes |  |
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| Next England manager? on 10:50 - Jul 4 with 1842 views | TVOS1907 |
| Next England manager? on 10:48 - Jul 4 by D_Alien |
Brailsford would be a great addition to the staff
Would be able to tell any underperforming muppets to get on their bikes |
And hopefully 'raleigh' the troops. |  |
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| Next England manager? on 10:55 - Jul 4 with 1833 views | D_Alien |
| Next England manager? on 10:50 - Jul 4 by TVOS1907 |
And hopefully 'raleigh' the troops. |
The first lesson would be how to handle bars | |
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| Next England manager? on 11:01 - Jul 4 with 1822 views | KenBoon |
| Next England manager? on 09:54 - Jul 4 by Nigeriamark |
whoever it is I would look at having someone from another sport as part of the backroom to get some mental toughness and ruthlessness into the team
Woodward or that guy who runs the Sky cycling team ( forgot his name) - Make tough decisions and don't put up with wallflowers |
Wasn't Clive Woodward a failure at Southampton? | | | |
| Next England manager? on 11:03 - Jul 4 with 1816 views | dingdangblue |
| Next England manager? on 10:48 - Jul 4 by D_Alien |
Brailsford would be a great addition to the staff
Would be able to tell any underperforming muppets to get on their bikes |
The first thing he'd say is they are 2 tyred. |  |
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| Next England manager? on 11:33 - Jul 4 with 1782 views | DaleiLama |
| Next England manager? on 11:03 - Jul 4 by dingdangblue |
The first thing he'd say is they are 2 tyred. |
He'd be sacked after the next WC and we'd just go through the same cycle again.
It's the FA's fault anyway. A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link? [Post edited 4 Jul 2016 11:34]
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| Next England manager? on 12:40 - Jul 4 with 1737 views | AtThePeake |
| Next England manager? on 07:58 - Jul 4 by KenBoon |
The Klinsmann suggestion is quite scary. He underachieved as Germany manager and looked dimly upon by many USA supporters. Personally i'd go with Big Sam. He seems to get the best out of very little and England haven't go much in the way of talent at the moment. |
The German fans didn't like how Klinsmann carried on living in the US whilst German manager as he didn't attend any Bundesliga games or anything. The USA fans think he plays boring football but I don't think they can argue that he hasn't taken them forward over the last few years. [Post edited 4 Jul 2016 12:47]
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| Next England manager? on 12:58 - Jul 4 with 1714 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
Simple......Look no further than Stewart Day presently running training for Les Giggleurs at Carrington!
C'est fini! | | | |
| Next England manager? on 13:42 - Jul 4 with 1682 views | mingthemerciless |
I doesn't really make any difference who manages them. Until we sort the players out we're going nowhere. | | | |
| Next England manager? on 14:11 - Jul 4 with 1651 views | dingdangblue |
| Next England manager? on 13:42 - Jul 4 by mingthemerciless |
I doesn't really make any difference who manages them. Until we sort the players out we're going nowhere. |
But surely its up to the manager/coach to sort the players out! We all know what a difference a decent manager/coach makes at Dale. I never thought that before Hill came along - I though managers/coaches were ten a penny but Hill has changed my view. I always thought it was down to the players but sadly most of them are lost without someone directing them and telling them what to do. | |
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| Next England manager? on 14:12 - Jul 4 with 1648 views | dingdangblue |
| Next England manager? on 12:58 - Jul 4 by Yorkshire_Dale |
Simple......Look no further than Stewart Day presently running training for Les Giggleurs at Carrington!
C'est fini! |
That pic is from their Portugal training camp. | |
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| Next England manager? on 10:42 - Jul 6 with 1477 views | TomRAFC |
The only reason anyone is even considering Neville is because he was a famous player. Same as so many names bandied about for various jobs.
He was very poor at Valencia and part of the England coaching team who couldn't find it's best formation for years. | |
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| Next England manager? on 11:14 - Jul 6 with 1437 views | AtThePeake |
| Next England manager? on 13:42 - Jul 4 by mingthemerciless |
I doesn't really make any difference who manages them. Until we sort the players out we're going nowhere. |
Our squad, on paper, is better than Wales'. Surely nobody can argue against that? And yet they're in the semi-finals. I personally think our squad was probably the 6th best in the tournament going into it. We've got supremely talented players who didn't show it in France. Harry Kane was the top goalscorer in the Premier League last season. Dele Alli was PFA Young Player of the Year. Players like Joe Hart, Wayne Rooney, Gary Cahill and Chris Smalling have been regular starters in Premier League winning teams. They aren't bad footballers all of a sudden.
As DDB says, it's down to the manager/head coach to organise these players into a team capable of winning important matches and competing well in tournaments. | |
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