| Will labour ever get back into power? 10:52 - Dec 23 with 19647 views | mrrockin |
I've been following the recent labour news with amusement and a bit of sadness (yes genuinely) - it's painfully obvious that the tories are going to win an increased majority possibly even a landslide in 2020.
By this point the left of labour will have a stranglehold over labour and this will mean there is no hope for the right of labour which closely mirrors the early 80's with the breakaway of the SDP.
Personally I believe the likes of Denis Healey made a mistake and the moderates should have left on mass to join the SDP and leave the socialists to keep the red flag flying high. Maybe as CB has long argued it is time for a voting change.
I was very skeptical about voting change but I personally thought the coalition largely did a superb job and I was disappointed it didn't continue in many ways. I largely support this Gov but I'm more in the centre so I'd prefer the right wingers to be more restrained which the coalition provided.
My point is that under the present system labour will never recover and it might be time for a realignment to take place in British politics.
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| Will labour ever get back into power? on 13:13 - Dec 29 with 1746 views | mrrockin |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 13:08 - Dec 29 by Highjack |
Yes I'm grateful for what I've got and there's nothing wrong with that. I've got a nice warm safe house and I have a nice comfortable life in good health and happiness. I go skiing every year and i have cash on the hip if I want to treat myself. Meanwhile, 50% of all humans that have ever lived have died horrific, painful deaths from malaria.
Things can always be improved but it's certainly not a Tory thing to be grateful for what you have because life and health is always bigger than petty politics. |
As I've said previously they don't know they're born. | | | |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 13:18 - Dec 29 with 1740 views | Highjack |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 13:13 - Dec 29 by mrrockin |
As I've said previously they don't know they're born. |
That's a very self serving comment you evil Tory thatcher loving scum. |  |
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| Will labour ever get back into power? on 13:43 - Dec 29 with 1723 views | mrrockin |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 13:18 - Dec 29 by Highjack |
That's a very self serving comment you evil Tory thatcher loving scum. |
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| Will labour ever get back into power? on 14:11 - Dec 29 with 1710 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 13:08 - Dec 29 by Highjack |
Yes I'm grateful for what I've got and there's nothing wrong with that. I've got a nice warm safe house and I have a nice comfortable life in good health and happiness. I go skiing every year and i have cash on the hip if I want to treat myself. Meanwhile, 50% of all humans that have ever lived have died horrific, painful deaths from malaria.
Things can always be improved but it's certainly not a Tory thing to be grateful for what you have because life and health is always bigger than petty politics. |
Health and politics unrelated then?
Not for those on extremely low incomes/those with disabilities, you know, the non skiers amongst us.
Like I said, your comments do not relate to the thread which is about British politics to be fair. |  |
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| Will labour ever get back into power? on 14:34 - Dec 29 with 1686 views | longlostjack |
Possibly. But so will the Tories after the referendum vote on the EU. It'll be carnage for that whichever way people choose to vote. |  |
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| Will labour ever get back into power? on 14:36 - Dec 29 with 1683 views | trampie |
The Labour party is full of Tories, vote Labour get Tory policies, its quite simple. |  |
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| Will labour ever get back into power? on 14:36 - Dec 29 with 1681 views | dailew |
Good riddance (the MPs that is). Bet they all voted with the Tories re bombing Syria. |  |
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| Will labour ever get back into power? on 14:38 - Dec 29 with 1677 views | mrrockin |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 14:36 - Dec 29 by dailew |
Good riddance (the MPs that is). Bet they all voted with the Tories re bombing Syria. |
Being balanced now with the retaking of Ramadi do you honestly think air strikes have not played a part in IS losing ground? | | | |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 14:47 - Dec 29 with 1663 views | controversial_jack |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 12:51 - Dec 29 by mrrockin |
The socialist mentality, instead of a hand up a hand out. |
You haven't read the novel have you? I can tell. | | | |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 14:49 - Dec 29 with 1658 views | mrrockin |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 14:47 - Dec 29 by controversial_jack |
You haven't read the novel have you? I can tell. |
I'm thinking more of the term in this context rather than the novel itself which is set in a completely different time. | | | |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 14:53 - Dec 29 with 1649 views | controversial_jack |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 14:49 - Dec 29 by mrrockin |
I'm thinking more of the term in this context rather than the novel itself which is set in a completely different time. |
If the vermin you support had their way we would be back there in no time | | | |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 14:55 - Dec 29 with 1647 views | mrrockin |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 14:53 - Dec 29 by controversial_jack |
If the vermin you support had their way we would be back there in no time |
Behave and shine my shoes | | | |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 15:58 - Dec 29 with 1625 views | Highjack |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 14:11 - Dec 29 by Brynmill_Jack |
Health and politics unrelated then?
Not for those on extremely low incomes/those with disabilities, you know, the non skiers amongst us.
Like I said, your comments do not relate to the thread which is about British politics to be fair. |
The comments do relate to this thread when commentators in this thread mention "poverty" or suggest that being grateful for the small mercies and relative luxury we have from living in a wealthy country is somehow a bad thing.
It was a direct response to those posts, it's sort of how forums work.
Also I saw many people with disabilities who can ski on a documentary called the Paralympics. | |
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| Will labour ever get back into power? on 16:01 - Dec 29 with 1619 views | controversial_jack |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 14:55 - Dec 29 by mrrockin |
Behave and shine my shoes |
Yes Masser! | | | |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 16:02 - Dec 29 with 1618 views | mrrockin |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 15:58 - Dec 29 by Highjack |
The comments do relate to this thread when commentators in this thread mention "poverty" or suggest that being grateful for the small mercies and relative luxury we have from living in a wealthy country is somehow a bad thing.
It was a direct response to those posts, it's sort of how forums work.
Also I saw many people with disabilities who can ski on a documentary called the Paralympics. |
Tramp has already admitted he would rather be poorer just as long as people who are more affluent than him are less rich. | | | |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 18:00 - Dec 29 with 1591 views | trampie |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 16:02 - Dec 29 by mrrockin |
Tramp has already admitted he would rather be poorer just as long as people who are more affluent than him are less rich. |
Having less money in our pocket is not being poorer if you have a state welfare system looking after you from cradle to grave and state capital infrastructure projects on going in the community all the time.
You mrrockin don't seem to want to pay taxes, no doubt you take the attitude that those unfortunate people in society that need the state to look after them should what - just be left to their own devices and rot and die as a consequence is it ? [Post edited 29 Dec 2015 18:01]
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| Will labour ever get back into power? on 18:15 - Dec 29 with 1577 views | dailew |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 14:38 - Dec 29 by mrrockin |
Being balanced now with the retaking of Ramadi do you honestly think air strikes have not played a part in IS losing ground? |
Yeah, we finally have peace in the Middle East after nearly a century of British aerial bombing. Knew just one more bombing campaign would sort things out. | |
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| Will labour ever get back into power? on 18:18 - Dec 29 with 1577 views | Highjack |
People should be responsible for their own lives unless they are physically or mentally unable to do so. There are too many individuals in this country who simply can't be arsed because they've been given a free ride from the day they were born.
It is not right that there are people who have been on benefits their whole life that are better off than people who work full time. That's not moral, that's not 'social justice' but it's happening and people like you want to give them more. | |
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| Will labour ever get back into power? on 18:23 - Dec 29 with 1574 views | skippyjack |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 14:36 - Dec 29 by trampie |
The Labour party is full of Tories, vote Labour get Tory policies, its quite simple. |
Possibly trampies best post.
Tony Blair is the most wealthy of politicians. |  |
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| Will labour ever get back into power? on 18:28 - Dec 29 with 1575 views | mrrockin |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 18:15 - Dec 29 by dailew |
Yeah, we finally have peace in the Middle East after nearly a century of British aerial bombing. Knew just one more bombing campaign would sort things out. |
This is just the sort of binary choice that is so endemic in the left.
I think our adventures in the Middle East have been disastrous, that doesn't mean you never intervene. If Saddam had planted bombs in Paris we would have been justified in launching air strikes. | | | |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 18:30 - Dec 29 with 1569 views | mrrockin |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 18:00 - Dec 29 by trampie |
Having less money in our pocket is not being poorer if you have a state welfare system looking after you from cradle to grave and state capital infrastructure projects on going in the community all the time.
You mrrockin don't seem to want to pay taxes, no doubt you take the attitude that those unfortunate people in society that need the state to look after them should what - just be left to their own devices and rot and die as a consequence is it ? [Post edited 29 Dec 2015 18:01]
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No again the classic 'nasty mr right winger' mentality.
I happen to believe answers don't always lie with the State, I believe business, individuals and charities can do more. I believe there are better ways of helping people, I don't necessarily always believe the likes of Leanne Wood have the answers. | | | |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 18:39 - Dec 29 with 1553 views | dailew |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 18:28 - Dec 29 by mrrockin |
This is just the sort of binary choice that is so endemic in the left.
I think our adventures in the Middle East have been disastrous, that doesn't mean you never intervene. If Saddam had planted bombs in Paris we would have been justified in launching air strikes. |
What are you on about?
What makes you think I'm left wing? You're making stupid assumptions again.
Of course it was a binary choice. Was there a middle choice to just bomb them a little? I don't remember that one. | |
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| Will labour ever get back into power? on 18:44 - Dec 29 with 1546 views | trampie |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 18:30 - Dec 29 by mrrockin |
No again the classic 'nasty mr right winger' mentality.
I happen to believe answers don't always lie with the State, I believe business, individuals and charities can do more. I believe there are better ways of helping people, I don't necessarily always believe the likes of Leanne Wood have the answers. |
You think the unfortunate should rely on charities ?
How much income tax should people pay ?
How much VAT should we pay on Goods ?
How much should Corporation tax be ?
You don't believe people should get free education so how much do you think people should pay for education [infants, junior, secondary and university] ?
How much should medical services cost [seeing a doctor for example] ?
Should we have a NHS ?
Should we have a large state housing stock like years ago ?
Should we have nationalised industries ?
Should the state subsidise libraries, parks and swimming pools ? or should just people that live behind gated communities pay privately for such things for their own private use ? [Post edited 29 Dec 2015 18:46]
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| Will labour ever get back into power? on 18:46 - Dec 29 with 1540 views | skippyjack |
| Will labour ever get back into power? on 18:18 - Dec 29 by Highjack |
People should be responsible for their own lives unless they are physically or mentally unable to do so. There are too many individuals in this country who simply can't be arsed because they've been given a free ride from the day they were born.
It is not right that there are people who have been on benefits their whole life that are better off than people who work full time. That's not moral, that's not 'social justice' but it's happening and people like you want to give them more. |
'People should be responsible for their own lives unless they are physically or mentally unable to do so. There are too many individuals in this country who simply can't be arsed because they've been given a free ride from the day they were born.
It is not right that there are people who have been on benefits their whole life that are better off than people who work full time. That's not moral, that's not 'social justice' but it's happening and people like you want to give them more.'
There is a good 'reason' why 'these' 'people' get what they get..
'these' people! | |
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