| Phillips 00:11 - Dec 16 with 3737 views | BklynRanger |
From what I saw tonight I still don't think he's a lost cause. I'm basing that on how dangerous he looked the ONE time he got on the edge of their box. Also the strange fact that his first touch seemed to be really good.
The problem was he was playing like a RWB for most of the match. I saw Isla shooing him forward a couple of times which shouldn't be needed for any winger with a shred of confidence about them.
I don't know, I'd just rather we got his head and fitness right than spunk another 5 mill on a show-pony in January. |  | | |  |
| Phillips on 08:24 - Dec 16 with 3033 views | ozexile |
But what does he actually do? He's no attacking threat. He doesn't seem to do any amazing defensive work. He never gives a defender anything to think about. He never makes a run that might open up a defense. He never plays a killer pass. Etc etc |  | | |
| Phillips on 08:28 - Dec 16 with 3027 views | WestonsuperR |
I thought he was dreadful and totally wasted an opportunity for a regular place in the team, struggling to thinking of anything positive he did and rightly subbed early in the second half. |  | | |
| Phillips on 08:32 - Dec 16 with 3020 views | headhoops |
as I've said on another thread he is so far out of his depth at this level even sonar wouldn't locate him. |  |
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| Phillips on 08:36 - Dec 16 with 3006 views | Rangersw12 |
Definitely worth keeping he has had a couple of injury setbacks and has never really had a proper run in the side
We need to try improve players rather than just discard them | | | |
| Phillips on 08:38 - Dec 16 with 3000 views | connell10 |
turn him into a striker , he is big enough! |  |
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| Phillips on 08:38 - Dec 16 with 2998 views | simmo |
To be fair to him he's a natural push and run winger, he goes past people on the outside and delivers crosses. That was obviously not his mandate last night as we only had little boy Vargas in the middle (if he hadn't drifted wide). It may be different with Austin and possibly Zamora too where he actually has a legitimate target to hit.
I quite like Phillips, I am hopeful he will come good. He's still a good option for us, especially away from home. |  |
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| Phillips on 08:41 - Dec 16 with 2989 views | hoopdog |
Imo this is a player that has true ability yet is clueless ,
What BZ does in chasing down defenders makes him of great value to the team but does it any great skill ? No just willingnes yet Phillips doesn't see the need to give a try but he could cause real panic in defenders with his pace he would on them in a second | | | |
| Phillips on 08:42 - Dec 16 with 2981 views | LadbrokeGrover |
Phillips is a joke. He is not even close to being a Premiership footballer (whatever that means). How long has he been with us now? I was all for the 'lets work with him because he has the essential tools and just needs good coaching'. Absolutely nothing has improved apart from his physique which I suspect he cares about more than actually improving as a footballer. And I'm sick of watching him bottle out of every fu@king tackle there is for him to win.
Fu@k right off Matty Boy. [Post edited 16 Dec 2014 8:46]
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| Phillips on 08:55 - Dec 16 with 2953 views | bosh67 |
I see the potential of a good Championship player but nothing that leads me to think he can cope at this level. When you compare his performance to Hoilett's last night you simply can't. |  |
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| Phillips on 09:08 - Dec 16 with 2934 views | ozexile |
| Phillips on 08:38 - Dec 16 by simmo |
To be fair to him he's a natural push and run winger, he goes past people on the outside and delivers crosses. That was obviously not his mandate last night as we only had little boy Vargas in the middle (if he hadn't drifted wide). It may be different with Austin and possibly Zamora too where he actually has a legitimate target to hit.
I quite like Phillips, I am hopeful he will come good. He's still a good option for us, especially away from home. |
But even if he did go past the full back it would stretch the defence. He doesn't even try. He just controls the ball and passes it back and stands still or miscontrols it and then stands still. | | | |
| Phillips on 09:17 - Dec 16 with 2906 views | SpiritofGregory |
| Phillips on 08:38 - Dec 16 by simmo |
To be fair to him he's a natural push and run winger, he goes past people on the outside and delivers crosses. That was obviously not his mandate last night as we only had little boy Vargas in the middle (if he hadn't drifted wide). It may be different with Austin and possibly Zamora too where he actually has a legitimate target to hit.
I quite like Phillips, I am hopeful he will come good. He's still a good option for us, especially away from home. |
Why are we always having to wait for players to come good. |  | | |
| Phillips on 11:08 - Dec 16 with 2820 views | simmo |
| Phillips on 09:17 - Dec 16 by SpiritofGregory |
Why are we always having to wait for players to come good. |
Because the alternative is to go out and get another player, spending more money on transfer fees, signing bonuses, agent fees and 3-4 years of commitment to additional wages. All the time keeping the original player we purchased as we can't shift him due to nobody paying at the same rate we do.
Phillips is relatively young, has shown glimpses of positive play before his injuries and is a player that definitely has the potential to improve. Your alternatives are to replace him with another similar gamble or pay through the nose for a finished/proven article, if you can convince someone like that to come to QPR for more than just big wages.
Instead of 'waiting for players to come good' we should be proactive about underperforming players. Let's identify what they are doing wrong, what they have done or are doing well, a bit of coaching one on one to re-instill confidence and belief in themselves. Concentrate on why they were bought in the first place and look to capitalise on those strengths. These are the type of players that always seem to perform well for other teams, rather than at QPR who don't have an ethos or style that they can have in mind when looking for new additions. It's just throwing individuals onto a pitch and if/when that doesnt work replacing them with the same lack of forethought. Let's fck that way of doing things off and look to make everybody we have at the club better. [Post edited 16 Dec 2014 11:18]
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| Phillips on 11:11 - Dec 16 with 2804 views | adhoc_qpr |
He was awful, as he have been everytime he's stepped on the pitch this season.
If Austin had been available and Vargas playing on the right it would have been a different game. | | | |
| Phillips on 11:58 - Dec 16 with 2753 views | paulparker |
The only positive I can say about Phillips is that his kit doesn't need washing
he shirked every challenge , didn't know when to make runs , he did fark all
maybe he knows his days are up at Rangers who knows
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| Phillips on 12:53 - Dec 16 with 2701 views | joolsyp |
| Phillips on 11:08 - Dec 16 by simmo |
Because the alternative is to go out and get another player, spending more money on transfer fees, signing bonuses, agent fees and 3-4 years of commitment to additional wages. All the time keeping the original player we purchased as we can't shift him due to nobody paying at the same rate we do.
Phillips is relatively young, has shown glimpses of positive play before his injuries and is a player that definitely has the potential to improve. Your alternatives are to replace him with another similar gamble or pay through the nose for a finished/proven article, if you can convince someone like that to come to QPR for more than just big wages.
Instead of 'waiting for players to come good' we should be proactive about underperforming players. Let's identify what they are doing wrong, what they have done or are doing well, a bit of coaching one on one to re-instill confidence and belief in themselves. Concentrate on why they were bought in the first place and look to capitalise on those strengths. These are the type of players that always seem to perform well for other teams, rather than at QPR who don't have an ethos or style that they can have in mind when looking for new additions. It's just throwing individuals onto a pitch and if/when that doesnt work replacing them with the same lack of forethought. Let's fck that way of doing things off and look to make everybody we have at the club better. [Post edited 16 Dec 2014 11:18]
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Good post but you forget we have Messrs Rednapp, Jordan and Bondy Bond in charge. They wouldn't know how to develop potential in an under performing player if it was Gareth bloody Bale they were coaching. |  | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 12:54 - Dec 16 with 2699 views | joolsyp |
| Phillips on 11:08 - Dec 16 by simmo |
Because the alternative is to go out and get another player, spending more money on transfer fees, signing bonuses, agent fees and 3-4 years of commitment to additional wages. All the time keeping the original player we purchased as we can't shift him due to nobody paying at the same rate we do.
Phillips is relatively young, has shown glimpses of positive play before his injuries and is a player that definitely has the potential to improve. Your alternatives are to replace him with another similar gamble or pay through the nose for a finished/proven article, if you can convince someone like that to come to QPR for more than just big wages.
Instead of 'waiting for players to come good' we should be proactive about underperforming players. Let's identify what they are doing wrong, what they have done or are doing well, a bit of coaching one on one to re-instill confidence and belief in themselves. Concentrate on why they were bought in the first place and look to capitalise on those strengths. These are the type of players that always seem to perform well for other teams, rather than at QPR who don't have an ethos or style that they can have in mind when looking for new additions. It's just throwing individuals onto a pitch and if/when that doesnt work replacing them with the same lack of forethought. Let's fck that way of doing things off and look to make everybody we have at the club better. [Post edited 16 Dec 2014 11:18]
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| Phillips on 13:10 - Dec 16 with 2669 views | hoopdog |
| Phillips on 12:53 - Dec 16 by joolsyp |
Good post but you forget we have Messrs Rednapp, Jordan and Bondy Bond in charge. They wouldn't know how to develop potential in an under performing player if it was Gareth bloody Bale they were coaching. |
I could be wrong but I thought that is what they did at Spurs | | | |
| Phillips on 13:16 - Dec 16 with 2663 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Phillips on 13:10 - Dec 16 by hoopdog |
I could be wrong but I thought that is what they did at Spurs |
ah, the old, Bale would be nowhere if it wasn't for Redknapp line.
Bale was lucky he didn't end up at Birmingham for about £3m under Redknapp. What a joke.
I don't think one single player has ever significantly improved under the coaching eye of Harry Redknapp - not since his West Ham days, anyway. Certainly none have with us, with the possible exception of Austin. |  |
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| Phillips on 15:17 - Dec 16 with 2615 views | BklynRanger |
I'll put most of you down as 'maybe' then... :)
Put it this way - Hoilett probably came off thinking he'd had a good second half, and by his standards he sort of did. Achieved nothing really but what's new? Phillips must have known he was, other than one vaguely purposeful run, completely ineffective, but I think the difference is he can improve massively.
I'm not saying it's clearly going to happen but I still think it could. It's probably all hypothetical anyway because January's coming. | | | |
| Phillips on 15:24 - Dec 16 with 2602 views | traininvain |
| Phillips on 09:17 - Dec 16 by SpiritofGregory |
Why are we always having to wait for players to come good. |
Younger players like Phillips and Hoilett often hit rough patches. Look at Ramsey or Song at Arsenal. Most fans wanted them sold and replaced a long time before they came good. |  | | |
| Phillips on 15:38 - Dec 16 with 2566 views | daveB |
| Phillips on 13:16 - Dec 16 by Antti_Heinola |
ah, the old, Bale would be nowhere if it wasn't for Redknapp line.
Bale was lucky he didn't end up at Birmingham for about £3m under Redknapp. What a joke.
I don't think one single player has ever significantly improved under the coaching eye of Harry Redknapp - not since his West Ham days, anyway. Certainly none have with us, with the possible exception of Austin. |
I don't think anyone has ever said that wit a straight face, even redknapp has denied that Bales rise was anything to do with him |  | | |
| Phillips on 15:47 - Dec 16 with 2550 views | WeaverQPR |
Trying not to go OTT with Phillips as he has hardly played and when he gets a chance Redflapps puts him up against the England first choice LB.
He did look poor/out of sorts/ devoid of confidence. Maybe a loan spell in Champ is needed to get him firing. |  |
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| Phillips on 15:51 - Dec 16 with 2545 views | JonDoeman |
| Phillips on 13:16 - Dec 16 by Antti_Heinola |
ah, the old, Bale would be nowhere if it wasn't for Redknapp line.
Bale was lucky he didn't end up at Birmingham for about £3m under Redknapp. What a joke.
I don't think one single player has ever significantly improved under the coaching eye of Harry Redknapp - not since his West Ham days, anyway. Certainly none have with us, with the possible exception of Austin. |
Out of the horse's mouth Whineola!
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" Harry Redknapp gave me a real kick up the arse when he arrived,’ he says. ‘He was the one who started the ball rolling. If I didn’t get that kick I wouldn’t be where I am now. It happens with young players, but I needed that kick. "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/11238362/Gareth-Bale-exclusive-intervi |  |
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| Phillips on 16:55 - Dec 16 with 2493 views | LadbrokeGrover |
I know Phillips is an attacking player so tackling is not the thing he'll be working on at any opportunity on the training ground but it is a basic skill any footballer in any position needs. I can't remember the last time he went in for a challenge fully committed. For a man of his size and build it's fu@king embarrassing.
For some footballers, the first full blooded tackle they should go in for after a bad leg injury will play in their mind a bit. Fair enough. Phillips has no such excuse, he broke his arm, not a leg. I remember Faurlin after his first cruciate injury, he went in on a crunching tackle and got up with a little smile on his face as if to say 'yeah, that felt good, I'm back'. It got that Monkey off his back straight away. Take note Phillips - you effing bottle job. | | | |
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