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Reply | Blair, immigration and what official documents show
at 20:01 31 Dec 2024
I think it does matter. In the early 2000's any EU resident could come here and do any job and claim related benefits, they were basically considered to be UK citizens. That was nuts.
Nowadays they either need permission to come here or have come here illegally. There are a number of reasons for this and all can be easily restricted or resolved.
They've probably been sold a patsy by people smuggling gangs and then given opportunity to hide or not be processed but that's down to our elected morons. |
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Reply | Blair, immigration and what official documents show
at 15:04 31 Dec 2024
The current immigrants are a completely different demographic, and our economy is different.
Open borders across Europe didn't help but neither did the arrogance of the Johhnson administration in dealing with Merkel / Macron, we needed to keep them on side we didn't and they decided not to cooperate.
Students are being encouraged to come here becasue they bring a fortune, care workers are needed becasue we don't have our own and that's before you consider the illegal workers.
Blair's policy allowed people to work here legally they can't now (as easily) so they've gone back to Europe. Now we have 5 barber shops in every high street, a similar number of nail bars, hundreds of take aways (and deliveroo/just eat riders), a car wash on most street corners, Uber taxi drivers from all around the place - these have been allowed to open and operate with impunity and without the border force / HMRC resources to inspect them. Close them down and the illegals will follow the Poles out of the country.
If everyone who is considering voting reform stopped using these services it would also have a noticeable effect.
Immigrants want to get rich, at least relatively, they won't do that on benefits. |
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Reply | Blair, immigration and what official documents show
at 14:49 31 Dec 2024
Very few I would have thought. There may be a few post grads claiming child benefit but not many. Ultimately they're supporting the biggest employer in the city, and many are working. In my experience the only ones who don't work are the most well off Chinese and Korean students
22,000 may have arrived but over 10,000 have been deported, a big increase on the last government.
They aren't living in council properties, at least legally, a single male has virtually no chance of any form of council accomadation no matter where they originally came from. The Students, pretty much all of them live in student accomadation. I'd guess the illegal workers all live in illegal or overoccupied HMO's.
The biggest problem is asylum seekers, which is exactly why they need to be processed and deported if possible and not considered genuine refugees. We are now doing that. We legally have to provide them with accomadation - but they get very little else. Realistically we can't have them living on the streets, the place would be a ghetto. Stopping them getting here would be usefull too - again the current government are getting somewhere with that too. |
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Reply | Blair, immigration and what official documents show
at 09:07 31 Dec 2024
The Blair government allowing completely free movement of people at that time, particularly as one of very few EU countries to do so was a mistake, but I don't think it is related to the current issues that we see with unsustainble new migration figures.
Back in the 2000's most immigrants were skilled or semi skilled Eastern Europeans who have subsequently gone back home.
Nowadays we have a huge increase in foreign students because universities rely on them to survive, refugees and asylum seekers due to unprecedented global insecurity for which there has been a huge backlog in processing and an inability or unwillingness to stop them arriving, a huge deficit in a native workforce for various reasons whilst the gig economy has exploded and the departments responsible for ensuring workers are legally employed has seen substantial cuts but increased workload.
All against the backdrop of a huge cut in public spending and services.
We're in a far greater mess now than in the early 2000's. |
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Reply | London car attack.
at 20:48 29 Dec 2024
I would say that after this awful attack many right wing social media sources ( turning point, UKIP) etc were making many insinuating comments about his name not being released.
They've not said much since his name has been released. |
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Reply | Merry Christmas!
at 23:00 25 Dec 2024
Great thread and I agree with every sentiment.
Hope you've all enjoyed the day in whatever way you wish. |
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Reply | New York subway fire murder
at 21:59 24 Dec 2024
It didn't really seem to be that they thought he was dangerous. They just seemed to ignore the situation.
One of them was even wearing a police / security guard uniform or something. |
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Reply | New York subway fire murder
at 09:41 24 Dec 2024
Fair point - I meant I actually started watching it and it was too unbelievable to stop.
The murderer is fanning the flames with his coat and nobody helps the woman on fire or tries to stop him. |
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Thread | New York subway fire murder
at 21:17 23 Dec 2024
I've just, accidentally, watched a film of a sleeping woman being set on fire on a New York subway train. She died.
But not after waking up, walking to the door of the train, being passed by several people, one guy sitting in a chair watching her die, obviously someone else filming her death, all while the killer is fanning the flames with his coat.
It's harrowing.
He's now been arrested. But WTF is society coming to? Ignoring someone obviously in huge distress and not even raising an alarm let alone trying to help. Is this an American thing or could it happen here?
In case you haven't seen it reported.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clygk48nxgzo
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Reply | Should we go to war
at 20:17 22 Dec 2024
I don't doubt that for a second, but if you can actually measure what they're doing there's no hiding place. |
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Reply | Should we go to war
at 19:07 22 Dec 2024
I manage people who work from home. I know exactly when they're online or not and I know exactly how productive they are.
We're busier than before COVID and no longer need an office, that saves £500k a year. |
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Reply | The Black Belt Barrister
at 08:22 21 Dec 2024
I just don't buy that it is correct, even if it was it would be easily defendable through the use of weasel words at the time and unknown aspects of the financial position.
What does "support" mean and the £20 billion black hole for example. |
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Reply | The Black Belt Barrister
at 08:17 21 Dec 2024
It can't really work like that. Judging them on their manifesto alone is enough to see they would be a disaster.
None of it is deliverable and none of it is affordable. |
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Reply | All this Budget Speculation
at 14:59 19 Dec 2024
Most of the Nigerian students I've spoken to are planning on going to study somewhere else once their visa runs out. Canada is usually mentioned. I don't think any have said they're planning on going back to Nigeria. |
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Reply | Axel Rudakubana
at 23:45 18 Dec 2024
I suspect he'll end up in a secure hospital for the rest of his life, and that's too good for him. There is no doubt he did it.
I'd wager there'll be a defence of ASD or similar lodged.
A full trial will be awful for the families and the jury who have to sit through it. |
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Reply | All this Budget Speculation
at 20:38 18 Dec 2024
Immigration is only the solution because too many people from Britain don't work. Plenty more traditionally British people do not make a fiscal contribution and are in fact a financial burden.
Sort that out and we can drastically reduce legal immigration very quickly. |
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Reply | All this Budget Speculation
at 20:34 18 Dec 2024
No we should be able to accommodate people who the country needs, we can't due to a lack of investment.
I don't know what you mean by "last time I saw" edit. Apologies I get it now, my comment was a bit of a generalisation but it's from my experience of the people who work there and talking to them. Most can barely speak English, including simple phrases to work behind the bar [Post edited 18 Dec 2024 20:47]
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