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Reply | Co-chair’s Christmas message
at 16:40 25 Dec 2024
I'm fully on board with the Ogden agenda
I was responding to wozzrafc's post, and i know what Harvard is about
Short-termism isn't something i care about. If you simply believe the post i was responding to, you - yourself - do them a disservice
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Reply | Co-chair’s Christmas message
at 01:05 25 Dec 2024
I very much doubt it was that simple
Not looking to over-complicate things here, just that "given" reasons aren't always the full picture... in fact, they very rarely are
Anyroads, all the best for the festive season |
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Reply | Pete Wild
at 18:41 24 Dec 2024
Have you been Christmas Eves dropping again, James? |
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Reply | Co-chair’s Christmas message
at 10:19 24 Dec 2024
Unless i'm mistaken, it was integral to the deal worked out by the Ogdens that SG retain his position, and shareholding
The main reason, i suspect, was due to the complete lack of experience within the Ogden family of how a football club is run, but the same applied to SG only a couple of years earlier
In a recent article about Dale in a national.newspaper, SG was described as being "the long-standing Chairman", a perception which is wholly inaccurate
It remains to be seen whether the perception that matters - that of the Ogdens, and CO in particular - is changing; bearing in mind, it could be changing in line with that of SG's perception of the fanbase |
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Reply | Pitch inspection 10.30
at 22:42 22 Dec 2024
Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I'd not checked the Trust website, and had said that i didn't need a reply in person from the Trust so hadn't realised it'd been written up (thought it might've been after Christmas)
The Golden Share question has been answered, specifying changes to the Articles of Association required prior to being issued. The important point is in specifying it'll be issued to the Trust, i.e. not any other fans association
I don't see any point is setting up an alternative to the Trust - although others might. It'd just become like the kind of thing our neighbours at Gigg Lane have been doing, with one group vying with the other
That leaves the question of how the Trust can move forward. But first, the Golden Share must become a reality [Post edited 22 Dec 22:43]
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Reply | Pitch inspection 10.30
at 16:29 22 Dec 2024
The key point in all of this is the stated intention by the Ogdens of Dale becoming a "community" club
Any community requires involvement with an enterprise at a level the community itself feels it can support; without that feeling, there is no support, and therefore no community
The Trust, as the primary representative of the wider community (which could extend to the entire town) just HAS to be provided with the right level of information to disseminate, and also provided with sufficient respect to disagree, if its members feel so inclined, without a breakdown in relationships
The alternative is top-down, unengaged, and ultimately failure [Post edited 22 Dec 16:38]
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Reply | Pitch inspection 10.30
at 15:41 22 Dec 2024
I've referred to it, although in an oblique kind of way
It's open to interpretation of course... but (unlike me!) i'd not be inclined to pursue it; may not be in anyone's best interests right now? |
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Reply | Pitch inspection 10.30
at 00:04 22 Dec 2024
Fair comment
What i meant by "abandoned" was an idea that's been put forward by others, about a completely fresh start. Depends if the proposal by the Ogdens for the Golden Share is specific to the current Trust, in which case it'd be foolish to start afresh
We'll find out after the Trust/Board meeting, but there's indications in this thread that the current setup isn't working
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Reply | Oi, Biffos
at 21:46 21 Dec 2024
if you read carefully, i was willing to give you every benefit of the doubt
You chose to post trash instead. I really couldn't care less, you're just thick |
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Reply | Oi, Biffos
at 21:00 21 Dec 2024
FFS have you read the criticisms of the club on here - like, today, this very evening?
Okay, so you're a Biffo then. Only someone that thick would post such a thing |
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Reply | Oi, Biffos
at 20:02 21 Dec 2024
if that's true (and i've no particular reason to doubt it, or actually couldn't care less) the best thing to do - realistically - is to stop trying to prove it [Post edited 21 Dec 20:02]
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Reply | Pitch inspection 10.30
at 19:52 21 Dec 2024
Depends what we mean by "a club"
In a post a few days ago, i referred to CO having his head turned by SG
If that's the case, the fanbase comes nowhere, and the community even further back
I sincerely hope that's not the case, but if it is, the only solution is to somehow rid the club of SG. How? Not sure... but we've been here before
If that's not the case (about CO being in alignment with SG) then we need to somehow bypass the Trust and deal direct. The comment from judd is pertinent in this respect [Post edited 21 Dec 19:53]
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Reply | Pitch inspection 10.30
at 19:38 21 Dec 2024
Agree with this. We stay 6th with games in hand (but a shit pitch)
The board have to get the pitch sorted; first of all in the short term (rain covers), then in the close season, doing the work required
I love the "community club" ethos espoused by the Ogdens, but the bottom line is we're first and foremost a football club, and if we can't play for lack of the basics in terms of pitch management, might as well forget the rest
As for the Trust: i've put a question on the Golden Share to be tabled at the Trust/Board meeting. What comes out of that will help determine whether the Trust as it's currently constituted needs to be supported, revised, or abandoned [Post edited 21 Dec 19:40]
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Reply | Pitch inspection 10.30
at 12:11 21 Dec 2024
Even more so than the pitch, the club's response is just...wet |
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Reply | Tamworth Tuesday
at 23:30 19 Dec 2024
There's probably been conversations going on behind the scenes, but airing these views in public is refreshing, and likely happening now since Pep's winning ways started to take a downturn [Post edited 19 Dec 23:31]
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Reply | Tamworth Tuesday
at 23:26 19 Dec 2024
One of the ultimate idiocies of the system is goalkeepers being picked due to their marginally better passing ability (but still nowhere near professional standard) rather than their abilities as a... goalkeeper
When that's the system and the keeper with the "better" footwork is out injured, the replacement is still expected to pass to under-pressure defenders. The result is pretty inevitable, which is why it was anathema for the preceding 100-odd years of professional football |
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Reply | Oi, Biffos
at 18:26 19 Dec 2024
An interesting development, for lots of reasons
Doubt it would've happened last season |
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