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T Richards…..
at 16:16 31 Dec 2024

How was it a good signing on paper? Have you even researched his career?
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T Richards…..
at 16:12 31 Dec 2024

Speculative subjective incoherent waffle. You yourself stated above that NO ONE knows the state of Taylor's mental health. As a result, continuing with that angle is pointless.

As for contracts, football works slightly differently to other industries. Plenty of clubs have paid good money for players who haven't delivered. You can't just rip up a player's contract because he isn't playing.

As for "moving on", you bury your head in the sand if you wish but you don't speak for all.
As I said to The Chef, next time you're wondering why the squad is a little thin and Marti is having to cope by fielding square pegs in round holes, just remember that the outlay on wasters like Taylor prevents the club from bringing in much needed reinforcements.
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T Richards…..
at 16:02 31 Dec 2024

I'd agree if it were just a loan but not a loan with a commitment to buy permanently in the future before Taylor has even kicked a ball. Richards spent time out on loan at Doncaster Rovers and Birmingham City (where he was injured during the medical). It didn't work out at either club so he returned to his parent club, Brighton. Why QPR then decided to offer Brighton a season-long loan with a commitment to buy permanently is beyond me. An extremely daft decision.

As for "moving on", that's easy for you to say because you're not spending your money. As Marti struggles with injuries in key areas and fields players out of position to cope, just bear in mind that the outlay on Taylor prevents the club from bringing in much needed reinforcements.
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T Richards…..
at 15:28 31 Dec 2024

"Does anyone have an idea of the state of his mental health?"

Exactly. Which is why it's a moot point.

"In which case how can you call it either way?"

As we've established that no one knows that state of Taylor's mental health, the discussion re-focuses on what he's done in his footballing career. To date, the square root of nada. This kid even got injured during a medical at Birmingham City. Why on earth QPR agreed to a permanent deal is beyond me.
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T Richards…..
at 15:17 31 Dec 2024

You can't have it both ways. If you "know nothing about him personally" then you have no idea on the state of his mental health. Personally I think it's a smokescreen designed to fool gullible folk like yourself into feeling sorry for a lad that has consistently shown at successive clubs that he's a waster. Until he pulls his socks up, gets fit, and contributes on the pitch, he deserves the criticism.
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Rooney
at 15:08 31 Dec 2024

Rooney underperformed at Derby. Notwithstanding the points deduction their form was bottom half of the league with a squad that was expected to challenge for the play-offs.

However, I do agree that Rooney deserves some credit for having the courage to keep trying his hand at management when it would be far easier to coast along in punditry. Many of the top pundits either wouldn't dare or have tried once and failed miserably (e.g. Gary Neville, Shearer, Merson).
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Salah, as good as it gets
at 22:18 30 Dec 2024

Mick - You're right about one thing. That isn't the point. If I had the talent to match my attitude then I'd be on that list. But I'm not and neither is AT.
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Salah, as good as it gets
at 16:55 30 Dec 2024

Lionel Messi
Pele
Diego Maradona
Cristiano Ronaldo
Johan Cruyff
Zinedine Zidane
Franz Beckenbauer
Ronaldo
George Best
Michel Platini
Marco van Basten
Zico
Eusebio
Bobby Charlton
Ronaldinho
Andres Iniesta
Xavi
Carlos Alberto
Roberto Baggio
Luka Modric
Thierry Henry
Ruud Gullit
Socrates
Lothar Matthaus
Rivaldo
Romario
Bobby Moore
Kenny Dalglish
Michael Laudrup
Tostao
Jairzinho
Karl-Heinz Rummenigge
Johan Neeskens
Dennis Bergkamp
Eric Cantona
Rivellino
Hugo Sanchez
Paulo Maldini
Wayne Rooney
Hristo Stoichkov
Luis Figo
George Weah
Kaka
Gheorghe Hagi

Need I go on?
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Salah, as good as it gets
at 16:30 30 Dec 2024

You still haven't grasped that the thread is not about mere talent. It's not your rodeo, stick to the original criteria. That way you won't continue to embarrass yourself with ludicrous suggestions like Charlie Nicholas.
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Salah, as good as it gets
at 16:18 30 Dec 2024

I could name plenty but I won't waste my time because natural talent isn't the criteria.

The OP said:

"Mr Salah is without doubt one of the best players you'll see in your lifetime, certainly top 6 I'd have thought."

So the criteria is top 6 players you've seen in your lifetime. You don't get to change the criteria to suit your argument.
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Salah, as good as it gets
at 16:07 30 Dec 2024

Indeed. Football is a team game and the top players consistently apply themselves at the top level, both individually and collectively. Whilst he's not in my top 6, Salah has certainly done that, and sustained it over a long period of time. Taraabt has not. A few flicks, tricks and nutmegs in the championship for 1 season doesn't make you one of the greatest football players to have ever played the game.
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Salah, as good as it gets
at 15:57 30 Dec 2024

If your criteria is players who you've seen in the flesh then I'd understand your vote for Taraabt. However, the OP didn't say that so it's safe to assume that the criteria is top 6 players you've seen in your lifetime, whether you watched it in person or on TV. On that basis, neither Salah nor Kane come close (unless you're 8-years-old) and Taraabt doesn't enter the conversation. As for Charlie Nicholas, come on now...
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Foxy on today's draw
at 02:05 30 Dec 2024

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Budgies vs Rs Match Thread
at 01:55 30 Dec 2024

Yeah, there's that too. No one's taking Madsen off our hands in a hurry.
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Budgies vs Rs Match Thread
at 21:00 29 Dec 2024

The question is, who would buy him and how much would he fetch?
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Greatest Horror Films
at 20:58 29 Dec 2024

Controversial perhaps but I really don't get Horror movies in general. They don't scare me, never have.
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Get well soon ludo
at 20:49 29 Dec 2024

Very brave decision to reject the chemotherapy and live his best life for whatever time he has remaining. Heart goes out to Ludo and his family.
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Salah, as good as it gets
at 20:46 29 Dec 2024

Excellent football player? Yes. Top 6 in our lifetime? If you're 8-years-old, perhaps.
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A Double over Nsrrrch (n/t)
at 20:44 29 Dec 2024

Sorry, I don't buy it. You don't even think about starting a thread like this until after the final whistle. This is QPR we're talking about here. Even when we were 3 nil up in the reverse fixture I was screaming at the ref to blow the fkg whistle!
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A Double over Nsrrrch (n/t)
at 20:43 29 Dec 2024

And they scored on 89 minutes.
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