| Stateside Jack's meeting with club 19:01 - Feb 15 with 38946 views | swanskid95 |
Seems a little fishy to me, looks like the trust have been shafted here..
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| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 19:08 - Feb 15 with 11005 views | jasper_T |
Why? Are the trust members the only supporters who matter? |  | | |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 19:12 - Feb 15 with 10981 views | Chief |
Oh so the Yank tvvats ignore the supporters trust as if they don't exist although they own 21% of the club, but offer this group who are based thousands of miles away 'collaboration' and a role in an advisory capacity.
They are genuinely taking the pish out us |  |
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| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 19:19 - Feb 15 with 10946 views | Jonathans_coat |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 19:08 - Feb 15 by jasper_T |
Why? Are the trust members the only supporters who matter? |
Obviously not!
I don’t think anyone is suggesting that. But as a 21.1% shareholder, and as the organisation that helped save the clubs existence, I think they deserve a little more respect. Or am I wrong? |  | | |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 19:22 - Feb 15 with 10930 views | MrSwerve |
I’m guessing the trust weren’t informed of this at all? |  |
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| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 19:24 - Feb 15 with 10917 views | _ |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 19:08 - Feb 15 by jasper_T |
Why? Are the trust members the only supporters who matter? |
It seems this American group has got closer to the owners than the Trust has. Not surprising. |  |
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| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 19:33 - Feb 15 with 10876 views | jacabertawe |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 19:24 - Feb 15 by _ |
It seems this American group has got closer to the owners than the Trust has. Not surprising. |
Oooh, err, do they all live in the USA then? |  |
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| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 19:40 - Feb 15 with 10849 views | QJumpingJack |
If the owners have a strategy of "divide and conquer" the fan base, it seems to be working. | | | |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 19:41 - Feb 15 with 10837 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 19:24 - Feb 15 by _ |
It seems this American group has got closer to the owners than the Trust has. Not surprising. |
Of course it’s not surprising. They’re not a major shareholder in the football club currently engaged in a protracted legal process. |  |
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| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 19:44 - Feb 15 with 10814 views | 3swan |
"Details of this weeks discussion remain private"
Why not open, is there something to hide?
Imo Just another PR exercise, where it can be said there is dialogue with the fans | | | |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:04 - Feb 15 with 10731 views | Landore_Jack |
Is having another voice in the club a bad thing? Especially when you consider these are Swans fans who care about the club. |  |
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| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:05 - Feb 15 with 10726 views | ItchySphincter |
What a load of boIIocks.
Whoever these Stateside Jacks are they should f*ck right off publishing garbage like that.
'We know something you don't know.....' Divisive behaviour at it's finest. |  |
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| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:08 - Feb 15 with 10710 views | LeonWasGod |
What’s the point of that if the owners have slapped a gagging clause on them? How’s that going to help inform any US-based fans?
“build a relationship of honesty, understanding and trust”.  Don’t fool for it - learn from the real experiences of the real Trust. |  | | |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:09 - Feb 15 with 10701 views | MrSwerve |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:05 - Feb 15 by ItchySphincter |
What a load of boIIocks.
Whoever these Stateside Jacks are they should f*ck right off publishing garbage like that.
'We know something you don't know.....' Divisive behaviour at it's finest. |
This, in spades. | |
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| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:10 - Feb 15 with 10688 views | _ |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 19:41 - Feb 15 by exiledclaseboy |
Of course it’s not surprising. They’re not a major shareholder in the football club currently engaged in a protracted legal process. |
It certainly isn't surprising when one side is completely inept at the the old piss up in a brewery. 3 years of nothing. | |
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| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:12 - Feb 15 with 10676 views | _ |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:05 - Feb 15 by ItchySphincter |
What a load of boIIocks.
Whoever these Stateside Jacks are they should f*ck right off publishing garbage like that.
'We know something you don't know.....' Divisive behaviour at it's finest. |
I don't think that's fair at all. They've been far more in the Americans face than the stiff upper lip Trust lot. | |
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| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:13 - Feb 15 with 10679 views | 34dfgdf54 |
I love that we have a fanbase out in the States, follow all the separate groups on twitter and stick up for them all when some fans here tar them with the same brush as our American owners. But you have no right to represent our whole fanbase with “confidential” conversations. |  | | |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:17 - Feb 15 with 10652 views | Masma |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 19:41 - Feb 15 by exiledclaseboy |
Of course it’s not surprising. They’re not a major shareholder in the football club currently engaged in a protracted legal process. |
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| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:18 - Feb 15 with 10642 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:17 - Feb 15 by Masma |
Shambles |
Hi Eddie. Love you. | |
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| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:21 - Feb 15 with 10620 views | Jonathans_coat |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:12 - Feb 15 by _ |
I don't think that's fair at all. They've been far more in the Americans face than the stiff upper lip Trust lot. |
Oh, don’t you like the trust?
You haven’t mentioned that before. You should have said something! | | | |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:29 - Feb 15 with 10569 views | AngelRangelQS |
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| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:32 - Feb 15 with 10546 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:13 - Feb 15 by 34dfgdf54 |
I love that we have a fanbase out in the States, follow all the separate groups on twitter and stick up for them all when some fans here tar them with the same brush as our American owners. But you have no right to represent our whole fanbase with “confidential” conversations. |
I don't think the SJ are portraying themselves as representing our whole fanbase. They are just diehard supporters representing a small (but growing) chunk of the worldwide fanbase, and I'm sure that is clear to everyone involved in their conversations.
I can understand the uneasiness over this, but they are not trying to step on the Supporters Trust's toes.
This twitter statement came directly from Marc and Jonathan, the co-leaders of the Stateside Jacks. I know both of them, and they are great guys - Jonathan is a Welsh expat living in California who has been a Jack all his life. |  |
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| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:36 - Feb 15 with 10520 views | ItchySphincter |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:29 - Feb 15 by AngelRangelQS |
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In fairness they may be well intentioned and a useful ally but that statement is badly worded and misguided, unless it is, as it comes across, a sycophantic attempt to curry favour with the owners and rattle the fans. They have no right to represent Swansea City fans to the owners. | |
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| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:40 - Feb 15 with 10499 views | dobjack2 |
Just shows that our absentee owners have a better connection with their own countrymen than they have with the city of Swansea and fans from Swansea, it’s surrounding area and the rest of the UK. | | | |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:57 - Feb 15 with 10432 views | swan65split |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 19:40 - Feb 15 by QJumpingJack |
If the owners have a strategy of "divide and conquer" the fan base, it seems to be working. |
I think if you look into it, it is a strategy they had at DC a while ago....or it existed! |  | | |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 21:43 - Feb 15 with 10326 views | dobjack2 |
| Stateside Jack's meeting with club on 20:32 - Feb 15 by Tummer_from_Texas |
I don't think the SJ are portraying themselves as representing our whole fanbase. They are just diehard supporters representing a small (but growing) chunk of the worldwide fanbase, and I'm sure that is clear to everyone involved in their conversations.
I can understand the uneasiness over this, but they are not trying to step on the Supporters Trust's toes.
This twitter statement came directly from Marc and Jonathan, the co-leaders of the Stateside Jacks. I know both of them, and they are great guys - Jonathan is a Welsh expat living in California who has been a Jack all his life. |
I don’t doubt they are great guys and that they are trying to do something positive however haven’t they considered that all they are likely to achieve by doing this is alienating the stateside jacks from the local fanbase. | | | |
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