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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 12:41 - Apr 24 with 7913 viewsBluce_Ree

Post updated for her pleasure.

18 - Cardiff - 44 played, 49pts
19 - QPR - 44, 47pts
20 - Rotherham - 44, 46pts
21 - Huddersfield - 43, 44pts
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22 - Reading - 44, 43pts
23 - Blackpool - 44, 41pts
24 - Wigan - 44, 40pts

FIXTURES

Blackpool v Millwall (Fri) - Millwall 7th (DLWLL)
QPR v Stoke (Sat) - Stoke 16th LDLLD
Reading v Wigan (Sat)
Huddersfield v Cardiff (Sun)


Wigan can't catch us.

Final matches:
Norwich v BLACKPOOL
HUDDERSFIELD v READING
Wigan v ROTHERHAM
Burnley v CARDIFF

[Post edited 28 Apr 2023 8:20]

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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 12:42 - Apr 24 with 5977 viewscpgerber

Wigan beats Reading and we're safe. Shortest route. (assuming Blackpool drops a point, also)
[Post edited 24 Apr 2023 12:43]
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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 12:43 - Apr 24 with 5968 viewsBluce_Ree

It's still ultimately about not being worse than Reading. Wigan can't catch us and have two wins back to back right now. So if they can beat Reading, I think we're good.

Blackpool could catch us though if they win both their games. Currently LLWLW.

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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 12:50 - Apr 24 with 5886 viewscpgerber

The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 12:42 - Apr 24 by cpgerber

Wigan beats Reading and we're safe. Shortest route. (assuming Blackpool drops a point, also)
[Post edited 24 Apr 2023 12:43]


No that's a lie ... we beat Stoke and all other results are irrelevant. So that's the shortest route.
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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 12:54 - Apr 24 with 5854 viewsdmm

Given neither Stoke nor Brizzle have anything to play for, it would be good to get something out of both games. Staying more than 3 points ahead of a relegated Reading would be a nice little bonus.
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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 12:57 - Apr 24 with 5822 viewsnix

Agreed.

Millwall have to win really to keep their play off hopes alive.

Cardiff are also interesting as they have to play two games in three days, both against relegation rivals followed by Burnley away on the last game of the season.

Huddersfield also has to play two teams at the bottom: Cardiff and Reading, as well as a top two team, Sheffield United.

There are just so many permutations. I think we only need one more point though out of our last two games. Let's hope we don't screw up in both of them! In theory neither has anything else to play for but teams still like to win, so.l.
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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 13:01 - Apr 24 with 5796 viewsEastR

Rotherham and Huddersfield to beat Cardiff, Wigan to beat Reading

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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 13:23 - Apr 24 with 5710 viewsbosh67

The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 12:50 - Apr 24 by cpgerber

No that's a lie ... we beat Stoke and all other results are irrelevant. So that's the shortest route.


This.

We have to go to Stoke believing we can win again. Simple as that.

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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 13:30 - Apr 24 with 5669 viewsPlanetHonneywood

The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 12:54 - Apr 24 by dmm

Given neither Stoke nor Brizzle have anything to play for, it would be good to get something out of both games. Staying more than 3 points ahead of a relegated Reading would be a nice little bonus.


Also - and I did not think I'd be saying this prior to Norwich - we're in a great position to snatch that much coveted 16th place too.

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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 13:37 - Apr 24 with 5606 viewsloftus77

The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 13:30 - Apr 24 by PlanetHonneywood

Also - and I did not think I'd be saying this prior to Norwich - we're in a great position to snatch that much coveted 16th place too.


Ah...unless I'm missing something GD-wise...we'd need some big shooting boots on for this, no? The 'Holy Grail' may have to wait for another year...
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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 13:39 - Apr 24 with 5591 viewssparkey

The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 13:37 - Apr 24 by loftus77

Ah...unless I'm missing something GD-wise...we'd need some big shooting boots on for this, no? The 'Holy Grail' may have to wait for another year...


Would need an overhaul of 30 goals scored and 0 conceded to stand a chance.

Call my a cynic but that seems just a little too much to ask for
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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 17:57 - Apr 24 with 5419 viewsBluce_Ree

I'll be happy with 21st, thanks.

Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore.

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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 20:33 - Apr 24 with 5296 viewswesty

The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 13:30 - Apr 24 by PlanetHonneywood

Also - and I did not think I'd be saying this prior to Norwich - we're in a great position to snatch that much coveted 16th place too.


How ?
18th is the best outcome. But tbh it doesn’t matter as long as avoid the drop
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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 21:47 - Apr 24 with 5169 viewskensalriser

The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 13:39 - Apr 24 by sparkey

Would need an overhaul of 30 goals scored and 0 conceded to stand a chance.

Call my a cynic but that seems just a little too much to ask for


We'd just need to equal the biggest ever scoreline in league history (13-0) v Stoke and beat Bristol City by four goals while Birmingham lose their final two games and Stoke their last.

That might be slightly less likely than beating Burnley away.

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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 22:03 - Apr 24 with 5141 viewsManinBlack

The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 13:23 - Apr 24 by bosh67

This.

We have to go to Stoke believing we can win again. Simple as that.


Yes beat Stoke and job done. Hopefully Stoke will be on the beach and not the side that recently won 5-1 at Sunderland and 4-0 at Coventry, two sides who comfortably won at our place in the same period. Clearly they can score goals so we may need another Burnley type defensive performance.
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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 22:19 - Apr 24 with 5090 viewsderbyhoop

Win the last 2 and you can ignore any other permutations.
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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 12:38 - Apr 26 with 4809 viewsTomS

The good news is that our fate is entirely in our own hands. If we win one of our final two matches, we'll remain in the Championship. What I don't want is a final day journey through the emotions, as experienced during the Citeh match in 2012. I'd need a defibrillator on standby.

Beat Stoke on Saturday and put the feet up..... please!
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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 15:27 - Apr 26 with 4570 viewsloftus77

Yes - avoiding a tense last day would be welcome after a traumatic season. But will we?

As I see it, there are three (and only three) scenarios by which we can secure certain safety this coming weekend:

1. We beat Stoke - simples.

2. Blackpool fail to beat Millwall on Friday, we don’t beat Stoke but still match or better Reading’s result against Wigan (i.e. we draw/Royals draw, we draw/Royals lose, we lose/Royals lose).

3. Reading beat Wigan, we only draw at Stoke (rendering Blackpool irrelevant) but, crucially, Huddersfield then lose in Cardiff on Sunday.

I think that’s it - for my own sanity.
[Post edited 26 Apr 2023 15:31]
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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 16:24 - Apr 26 with 4449 viewsMrSheen

The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 15:27 - Apr 26 by loftus77

Yes - avoiding a tense last day would be welcome after a traumatic season. But will we?

As I see it, there are three (and only three) scenarios by which we can secure certain safety this coming weekend:

1. We beat Stoke - simples.

2. Blackpool fail to beat Millwall on Friday, we don’t beat Stoke but still match or better Reading’s result against Wigan (i.e. we draw/Royals draw, we draw/Royals lose, we lose/Royals lose).

3. Reading beat Wigan, we only draw at Stoke (rendering Blackpool irrelevant) but, crucially, Huddersfield then lose in Cardiff on Sunday.

I think that’s it - for my own sanity.
[Post edited 26 Apr 2023 15:31]


On 3, Huddersfield have a game in hand (Sheffield United), so we can’t get away from them this weekend.
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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 16:38 - Apr 26 with 4421 viewsloftus77

The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 16:24 - Apr 26 by MrSheen

On 3, Huddersfield have a game in hand (Sheffield United), so we can’t get away from them this weekend.


Yep, you're right - but in terms of guaranteeing safety this weekend , we wouldn't 'need' to as such.

Huddersfield play Reading on the final day so, under point 3, the worst-case scenario on the morning of the final day would be us on 48pts (having drawn at Stoke), Hudd on 47 (lost to Cardiff & assume they thrash Sheff Utd in their game in hand) and Reading on 46 (having beaten Wigan) ie confirmed safety.
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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 16:41 - Apr 26 with 4411 viewsdaveB

We'll still need one more win imo

Reading should get at least 4 points, Huddersfield have a win in the and one of Rotherham or Cardiff will go above us tomorrow possibly both
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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 16:45 - Apr 26 with 4401 viewsNorthernr

The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 16:41 - Apr 26 by daveB

We'll still need one more win imo

Reading should get at least 4 points, Huddersfield have a win in the and one of Rotherham or Cardiff will go above us tomorrow possibly both


With them all playing each other though it's a weird combination of results needed now though. Not saying it won't happen but my God it's amazing how that one Chris Martin goal has transformed a situation from one I thought was a certain relegation to one now where we need to lose both, Reading basically need to win both, Huddersfield need to lose to Reading but beat somebody else...
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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 16:56 - Apr 26 with 4363 viewsdaveB

The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 16:45 - Apr 26 by Northernr

With them all playing each other though it's a weird combination of results needed now though. Not saying it won't happen but my God it's amazing how that one Chris Martin goal has transformed a situation from one I thought was a certain relegation to one now where we need to lose both, Reading basically need to win both, Huddersfield need to lose to Reading but beat somebody else...


it's only gonna take Huddersfield & Reading winning this weekend (Or Huddersfield beating Sheff Utd at home who should already be up by then) and then playing out a 0-0 draw for us to be bang in trouble if we lose the last 2

We should be fine as I think we'll get something in last 2 games but we'll need more points than we have now to make sure
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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 16:59 - Apr 26 with 4362 viewsted_hendrix

It might be a good Idea If posters stopped talking about Bristol City and Stoke being 'on the beach' or already 'on holiday'
No they f ucking well aint, get a bloody grip.
We could play two teams of bleeding Holiday reps and get beat.
We shouldn't be In this situation but we are and that's our tough shit for supporting/backing a football club that's still stuck In1983.
It's both cringeworthy and hypocritical laughing at the fakes and their 6 point deduction, 49 points they'd be on otherwise.

Get this godawful season over once and for all and start sorting our club out.

Sick to death of It.

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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 17:03 - Apr 26 with 4328 viewsPinnerPaul

The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 16:41 - Apr 26 by daveB

We'll still need one more win imo

Reading should get at least 4 points, Huddersfield have a win in the and one of Rotherham or Cardiff will go above us tomorrow possibly both


Why so confident about Reading all of a sudden?
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The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 17:04 - Apr 26 with 4311 viewsPinnerPaul

The 2023 relegation thread-oh Match 45 on 16:45 - Apr 26 by Northernr

With them all playing each other though it's a weird combination of results needed now though. Not saying it won't happen but my God it's amazing how that one Chris Martin goal has transformed a situation from one I thought was a certain relegation to one now where we need to lose both, Reading basically need to win both, Huddersfield need to lose to Reading but beat somebody else...


and Blackpool need to win both.
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