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Could the trust be doomed?
at 23:02 8 Nov 2014

nobody is claiming it is illegal I don't think but it is jobs for the boys

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Could the trust be doomed?
at 22:46 8 Nov 2014

the question is a simple one - was this work they were doing before they were involved in the club or did they get it because they had an inside track? genuine question are there more there in a similar position?

Every shareholder must have an agenda now surely given the massive sums of money being talked about?

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Could the trust be doomed?
at 22:37 8 Nov 2014

What are we getting down to now?

As an aside it is the money to the trust directors that worries me most did both take a leg up for their businesses on the back of our goodwill?

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Could the trust be doomed?
at 22:35 8 Nov 2014

The answer to number 1 is clearly because our saviours are looking to cash in on their input from 10 years ago. I refuse to say investment because back then it wasn't one and as been posted on here they did not put money in to make a return yet they have made one several times over

They better do the checks you mention in number 2 or all sorts of shades of shite could happen

I wish the word investment would not be used it is a part takeover with more to come If the rumours are to be believed - it is time the club and the trust were more honest with us

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Could the trust be doomed?
at 22:18 8 Nov 2014

I get the ones for the legal fees but why the hell would the rest get the sums that they have? jobs for the boys runs right through this club

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Could the trust be doomed?
at 13:30 8 Nov 2014

I want to go to a place where you tell me who I am. at that point I can tell you that you are wrong but it will be amusing to see what you say

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Could the trust be doomed?
at 13:23 8 Nov 2014

Oh come on enlighten us as I have no idea who you are so there is no chance that you know who I am. PM me if you are too embarrassed to get it wrong in public!

[Post edited 8 Nov 2014 13:24]

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Could the trust be doomed?
at 13:17 8 Nov 2014

And there you go again, with every post proving that you aren't that clever at all - your responses do your professionalism you claim any favours

You clearly cannot read the books you keep claiming to own quick enough to keep up with the wave of opinion that is showing you to be the utter cock that you are

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Could the trust be doomed?
at 13:09 8 Nov 2014

MY word do you think businesses have these shareholder agreements?

Is that like the one that everyone believes stops any one shareholder currently going above the 25% that Shakes says is irrelevant

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Could the trust be doomed?
at 13:08 8 Nov 2014

Whats it got to do with you who I am? Do you need to know the personalities of people on here before anyone posts?

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Could the trust be doomed?
at 13:05 8 Nov 2014

And there he is again

ANd these businesses come to you for support? Yeah ok then

#deluded

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at 13:04 8 Nov 2014

Hate to disillusion you Shakes but I have a real life outside of this forum and not one like you that I pretend to be something I am not. I had a most enjoyable afternoon yesterday with the family in Chester, I highly recommend it

My agenda? As a Swans fan (I know that is alien to you) I want the best for the club and share my opinions. I don't pretend to be an expert on anything but neither do I throw my toys out of the pram like you did last weekend that I so clearly highlighted to everyone yesterday and that you had no answer to. Which is what people like you normally do when you are beaten.

Never mind Shakes, leave the talk to the Swansea fans and you continue to play big business in your bedroom and stop pretending you are some bigshot because if you were and you were a Swans fan then you would have offered your help via the right channels.

Now in your style I shall insult you. Cock.

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Could the trust be doomed?
at 12:55 8 Nov 2014

Good to see Shakes hand in hand with his insults as usual

Shakes you would get much further if you retained the professionalism that you claim you have

Assuming of course you are what you say and not what you believe

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at 12:52 8 Nov 2014

This is it for me - why they would consider selling shares at all at this point in time is beyond me. they would have no say in the running of the club which is majorly important for me

What I would like to see is the Trust raise its own share to 25% of the club and that all shareholders insist on various forms of protection for the club moving forward that would prevent long term damage for the club

Surely the likes of Dineen who went on camera saying how much he loved and saved the club wouldn't just sell us down the river in a style more suited to Petty?

Oh and by the way Shakes I am not Moscow Jack and the amount of time I have posted on here is not relevant

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at 22:47 7 Nov 2014

and who does this good financial advice come from? you? what are your qualifications for giving it?

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at 14:26 7 Nov 2014

its not an attack just a simple observation that mr shaky (who clearly is your pal and someone you know personally) should actually make his criticism properly and via the right channels but he made it clear in his toys out of the pram moment last weekend that he had no intention of doing that

therefore it is pretty safe to assume in my head that any action the trust will take will not be formed by a faceless person on an internet forum. and that gives me great comfort to be honest no matter how well qualified shakes may be he has made his position clear so I would imagine those in power will continue to ignore him

as it should be

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at 14:24 7 Nov 2014

Very objective Shakes (and yes I know you were not talking to me) but if I may take just a short period of your valuable time to quote a post that you made on 2nd this month at 13.27 which contained the objective criticism of

"Therefore on a personal level, Phil can go f*ck himself. Do I make myself clear? "

Or the same day at 10.47

" I don't accept corporate finance mandates from people I consider to be fools "

10.14 same day

"Monmouth is somebody who almost certainly knows what a PLC is and what it is not, which immediately makes him significantly more qualified to advise the Trust than Phil's hand-picked band of jokers."

Two minutes previous

"I am somewhat conflicted by my general support for the concept of the Trust and my belief that Karma ultimately always prevails, which should then see Phil reaping the full fruit basket his leadership clearly deserves. "

18.08 last Saturday

"Bottom line is I think you are a fool, and the fact is I don't work with fools so all this is moot. "

And that is just a quick search

Objective is something you certainly aren't

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at 14:15 7 Nov 2014

Dont forget yours towards Darren and punchrock

I cannot take this Shaky person seriously because of the way he likes to have his digs at people in his posts but you crack on

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at 14:13 7 Nov 2014

you let your professional guard down again and reverted to type Shakes

you were called out on Sunday as not being prepared to help. You were called out on it in quite a spectacular throw your toys out of the pram moment that did not go unnoticed I am sure in trust quarters probably emphasising the view they seem to take in ignoring you

and now you want to believe that they are following your trail when I think its been pretty clear they treat you as the evident joke you are on here

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at 14:03 7 Nov 2014

given the fact that the trust statement said

"Our message to the other shareholders has therefore been that we do not wish to relinquish our shareholding in the football club"

it is pretty safe that they told the other shareholders their view before they went to press on it

Shaky makes some pretty strong assumptions that the trust knows no details on this which if it was true would make me more dead set against this deal than I am already. of course they know more details but its pretty clear that they are not ready to be public

I get that you don't like the individuals but unfortunately your vendetta against them gets in the way of you being subjective shakes

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