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Reply		Swans players feel disrespected by their contract offers *Latest
at 21:39 4 Nov 2024

It seems from this thread you were the BS merchant not me. The poster did not clarify he corrected.
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Reply		Swans players feel disrespected by their contract offers *Latest
at 19:52 4 Nov 2024

You and your chum were projecting fake news it seems. Just admit it and move on. No Swansea had signed pre contracts because they were not allowed. No player will make a gentleman agreement either as it is not in their interests. They will.only agree to "speak to our people before committing".
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Reply		Oxford United v Swansea City : Match day thread
at 18:01 4 Nov 2024

The usual disrespectful stuff from you. Why not give him a chance to prove himself?. Every one deserves a chance even Americans.

If you ask Levien about Cabango and Darlinh he will refer you to Coleman, This is his business not Levien's. Everyone is called 'a puppet' unless they buy you a pint on an away trip and are called Trevor Birch. It was perceived he was his own man for some reason. He never complained about interference.

The club has a plan. Strong recruitment of young players and using the academy. Some young players appear to have bombed. Ntoe and Kuharevych. Both have time to improve. Others are flourishing Eom, Key, Tymon, Franco for example. Bianchini and Vipotnik did well enough t offer encouragement of better times ahead.

A new head of football with a bit more about him than Wtason is needed. Watson apologised to some 'no name' about sitting with his friend. Probably the pillock from the useless 'Alliance' .
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Reply		Swans players feel disrespected by their contract offers *Latest
at 17:15 4 Nov 2024

So tell me what Swnsea players have signed pre-contract deals? Manning and Latibeaudiere just walked when their deal ended,

The usual suspects are taking about this but I do not I understand the benefits . Neither do agents it seems.

The whole point of running down your deal is to wait until the best deal shows up.

I remember Hal Robson Kanu doing this and finding no takers at the money he wanted.
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Reply		The Championship Table
at 15:50 4 Nov 2024

Another tired narrative. "Ambitious" managers like Martin and Cooper jumped ship and Martin did not even pay his compensation in full. Both voluntarily broke their 3 year contracts. Same with Potter.

Potter and Cooper got as much transfer money they could spend and both underachieved and got sacked.£1 Billion between them more than enough the fix the M4 relief road. Bonkers.

Williams has to work to a budget and recruitment has given him a stack of promising young players he has to develop and improve. This is not a quick fix job. He will be given time to show his value and will do if he does not have his head turned by clubs with bigger budgets. Mark Robbins is an example. Even he with his squad is having difficulties.

What has Williams got to complain about? Vipotnik has a scored more than Langstaff..
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Reply		Red for Kuharevich
at 12:34 4 Nov 2024

That's what fans said about " useless " Gyorkeres. They never learn it seems.

Swansea buy 22 year old with rough edges then develop. Cullen has been in the first team squad and lived of a "I am a true Jack" ticket for 4-5 years.

Foreigners are given " get lost this in not fantasy football" . There is no Welsh version of Mykola anywhere in Wales.

Rough edges include personality issues in some cases. Only 22 and a lot to learn.
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Reply		Red for Kuharevich
at 19:43 3 Nov 2024

Some stickers need time for things to gel. It is often around 24-25 that they start to deliver big goals. Mykola is big an strong and under contract. Let him get another 40 games under his belt before making decisions. The same standard for Vipotnik.

They deserve patience that has been shown to Cullen who is 2 years older and still trying to establish himself. Wales does not produce this type of player. They are rare in the English games as well.

Brighton and Swansea drummed out Gyorkeres as the same age.
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Reply		Red for Kuharevich
at 18:48 3 Nov 2024

The opposite of nasty is nice. Swansea need a nasty strong centre forward not a polite nice fellow placed into a championship bruisers pocket.
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Reply		US Election thread
at 16:51 3 Nov 2024

Winston Churchill once said "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”
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Reply		15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years
at 16:46 3 Nov 2024

Most of the 15 million were European nationals settling in the UK like UK people settle in Spain. There is nothing shocking about thee figures. Swansea has a Polish born guy in the u21 and fine fellow and prospect too.

https://www.swanseacity.com/player/338
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Reply		Swans players feel disrespected by their contract offers *Latest
at 16:40 3 Nov 2024

I d not understand this pre-contract thing.

The players are looking to negotiate from a position of being out of contract. Signing a pre contract would appear to reduce access an open market and possible late interest from a Premier league club.

There have been instance of transfer flip where a player signed for one club then is immediate l old to another for cash.
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Reply		January Transfer Window
at 13:08 3 Nov 2024

A decent forward signing theoretically would cost £2m. If the club instead dedicated this money to Cabango and Darling £10k a week each for two years it is the same.

Swansea was able to keep Ash Williams Tate and Monk at the club and it gave close on a decade of stability.
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Reply		Oxford United v Swansea City : Match day thread
at 12:38 3 Nov 2024

Swansea have to be patient with the new guys and give them time to develop and improve . Piroe started on fire at roughly the same age but all players are different .
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Reply		Swans players feel disrespected by their contract offers *Latest
at 23:31 2 Nov 2024

Darling is playing the best football of his life and Bristol city have shown interest just like Swansea did with Joey. Allen was perhaps told he would not play. Swansea can do this with Darling if they want. He took is keen to play.

Swansea did not want to pay £8m but wanted to pay less. This could only happen if Joey demanded to move to Swansea and say right for 3 months. He declined to play the game Huw was playing and went to Stoke. He signed up there twice and only left once Stoke had finished with him.

Bristol wait in the wings for Darling and may make a move in January. It will be a a discount. The offer will
offset competition in the summer.

Joey put Stoke before Swansea and now put Wales before Swansea. Swansea perhaps are hoping for more World cup compensation money.
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Reply		Cardiff
at 23:10 2 Nov 2024

They reply because they want to and it is none of your business. I would never advise people to ignore you despite you occasional OTT words.
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Reply		Clucas
at 23:04 2 Nov 2024

Bony 2, Sanches, Clucas, Borja a too young Abraham It was all too much in the end. Fer was injured too.
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Reply		Don’t mention Gyökeres
at 22:15 2 Nov 2024

Once fans start blaming the owners for everything they cannot stop. It give the local people a chance to be lazy knowing they will not be blamed for anything. A complete absence of good forward players demonstrates someone is not doing their job.

Gyorkeres was never Coventry's player until they signed him. Had Cooper made a strong case for signing him they would have made a move.

Fletcher was on trial and despite 17 goals was deemed not to have done enough. Levien would prefer him to sign for Swansea rather than Forest.

Swansea have a very poor record finding forwards. Cooper wanted the injury prone Keinan Davis according to the press.

He complained he had no centre forward despite having Gyorkeres. You will defend him for this moaning. He had a rough diamond in his kit bag and threw it away. It was Cooper's fault not Levien's but fans cannot see this through the mist of failed narratives.

Whittaker another excellent goal scorer treated badly and kicked out of the club for peanuts. Liam Cullen is the only show in town.

The next Alan Shearer will not be obvious a late developer. Swansea football people need to see potential not be lazy. You see in Facebook comments . When Swansea sign a good player " more money for the greedy Yanks to pocket".

Id f people in the club think like this the club is doomed to fail. The next Shearer will be told. "Move on son you are too good for us". This is what you might say if you worked for the club.

Gude I works on the "club culture". This must mean there was a perceived problem before he came.
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Reply		Don’t mention Gyökeres
at 19:27 2 Nov 2024

The questions are that if the next Alan Shearer turns up on loan raw and feisty at 18-19 on loan with a cheap option does:-

a) the football people at the club have the vision to see it .
b) (another question which is a little insulting is) do they care?

I cannot understand why Kristian Fletcher is playing for Nottingham Forest u21 not Swansea u21 pushing for a first team place. He was not shown any encouragement..
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Reply		Cardiff
at 19:20 2 Nov 2024

Involved in the winner driving forward not passing backwards at 1-1.
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Reply		Christie signs
at 19:18 2 Nov 2024

Your point might carry more weight if you and the other posters could get his name right. The Levi-en. Levi seems a common Jewish name.

Let's see what happens I expect a bid for one off them generating cash for the other.

Footballers at clubs with limited finance often refuse to sign up. It is the way football works. No one wanted them last summer. Clubs like Swansea are poachers looking for players in their last year. Franco perhaps Manning for sure Wood etc It is not an issue of mismanagement necessarily.

No one it seems will pay a fee for these guys last year yet fans say they are worth big money

It would be c good to keep Cabango as one who came through the academy. There are some real good layers out there running down their deals. Connor Roberts for one. He will be looking at a promoted team or a low PL team.
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