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Reply | Transfer rumours 2024
at 17:51 21 Aug 2024
On the same vein as the amortisation of transfer fees. I suspect last year was the final one where the Dykes and Willock fees were spread across. Likely we also paid a joining fee to Dozell and suspect that was spread over the contract too.
The issue with 2021 was the impact of amortised transfer fees AND significant salaries. An an example if we are paying Varane £10k a week and a £900k fee the it’s the equivalent of £16k a week over the life of the 3 years…or £800k a year. The same as the Willock transfer amortisation and salary if he was on £10k per week. If Celar cost £2m the amortisation would be similar to Dykes from the 2020 transfer.
Caveat……I audit mainly listed companies and not looked in detail at football finance, but I would be surprised if the upfront acquisition costs are not all spread as I have described above over the initial contract length at the date of signing….. |
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Reply | Transfer rumours 2024
at 17:14 21 Aug 2024
It will also have a knock on impact on next 3 years as the cost is incurred evenly over the contract. So will bite next year and so on. The club may well expect Eze will be sold or we’ll sell one of JCS, Chair or one of the acquisitions on that period to balance the books. Difference to 2021 was the complete lack of any sell on value with Uncle, Gray, Stef, Austin, Wallace etc |
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Reply | Transfer rumours 2024
at 17:01 21 Aug 2024
Transfer fees are amortised (spread) over the life of the contract for accounting purposes. So the profit on the Armstrong transfer is recognised immediately, transfer fees paid spread over the life. So in accounting terms suspect were not far off break even. We are likely then at a lower wage bill per week than last year given the number of high earners removed in the summer. So I don’t think this transfer business is as crazy as some have suggested but I could be wrong. PS I am a chartered accountant but haven’t crunched the numbers. |
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Reply | Transfer rumours 2024
at 14:45 21 Aug 2024
Or as I raised before. We may have received the thick end of £3m from him starting a game for England in the summer….. |
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Reply | Transfer rumours 2024
at 14:42 21 Aug 2024
Interesting idea especially if the £60m buy out expired this month. Palace, knowing he could then move for more than £60m post that happening May have offered the sell on at £60m or a haircut on it knowing that they may sell for much more afterwards. |
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Reply | Transfer rumours 2024
at 04:57 21 Aug 2024
Wasn’t a large chunk of the Eze add ons when he started a game for England? Presumably it’s likely we have already earnt a further £3m or so from that, irrespective of any sell on? |
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Reply | Chair - what's the story?
at 15:47 16 Aug 2024
Fair point, but the club are not currently all about openness and for the record, how many calf injuries did Taylor Richards have last season?? |
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Reply | Chair - what's the story?
at 02:55 16 Aug 2024
I’ve not seen it mentioned here, but isn’t the more likely reason for him not currently being selected due to the club confirming they were carrying out there own investigation following the final judgement on his sentence? Prior to that, he was appealing but has subsequently been given community service for a misdemeanour charge. The club need to complete their investigation and determine whatever course of action they consider should apply under our code of conduct. He may also over in Belgium regularly carrying out his community service simultaneously.
The alternative, that he has an innocuous injury that means our best player hasn’t appeared at all and yet is regularly around the club seemingly fine, would surprise me. Equally, if we carried out an investigation, I would have expected that we’d have completed it more swiftly given the season starting etc.
If we were selling him, surely we we would still be playing given his injury history etc and any agreed deal would have been public somewhere by now….. |
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Reply | As one door closes, a Celar door opens – Signing
at 22:32 19 Jul 2024
Some very good points Antti and it’s the hope that kills you.
Positives from me: the actual first team players we have released/sold or expired: Dozell, Willock, Armstrong, Begovic, Adomah (Kakay perhaps) added very little to points on the board last year. Dozell and Begovic’s stats wise cost us especially. So from the side that played the second half of the season with play off form, it’s really only a new GK, Colback in for Hayden and a replacement for Willock that we are looking at.
Each of the signings we’ve made could obviously go wrong and the odds on all working out are low, however a key difference between this and a Bonne, Sylla, Washington etc is the way in which we have picked these players. If my understanding is correct, these aren’t mates of scouts or managers picks, watching a few tapes etc, they are based on the data analytics team identifying targets and chasing a range of players that suit those metrics. That won’t always work as they need the right physicality for the Champ, the right mental attitude and to be the right sort etc….but it’s a lot more scientific that a player the manager has signed before, that he’s great on FIFA, he’s played for him before or his agent is the one we always go to etc.
I’m really positive about the coming season. Cleared out a lot of deadwood in players that don’t want to be here or aren’t good enough to be here. We’ve brought in a range of young players who may develop for the future, banging on about a pathway and signed some exciting left field players who could and probably should be better than their predecessors. It’s not that hard mind….Celar needs 4 goals and 3 assists to be statistically better and the GK needs to not have an overall record of costing us 6 goals to be an improvement !!!!!!! |
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Reply | Eze for England!
at 17:18 6 Jun 2024
Hard to leave Palmer out.
It’s horses for courses though….could play Saka and Foden wide with Palmer behind Kane and Bellingham/Rice in the midfield. Or push Bellingham up and play Mainoo or Gallagher next to Rice to give a bit more steel.
Lots of good headaches for Southgate. The defence is far better than it’s given credit for too. It’s not Rio, Sol, Cole and Neville, but it’s pretty strong as a 4 or a 3 with Stones, Walker, Shaw and Trippier. The back ups other than Dunk are good improving players too.
Lots to be excited about |
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Reply | Clive on Open all R,s.
at 22:36 15 May 2024
Really enjoyed the pod and great to hear everyone so positive.
One thing I noticed here and the Patreon was the comment that we would have stayed up on 50 points, I.e. post Preston we were safe. It needed so many results to go against us and for us to not get another point, but ironically all the other results did go against us. Had we lost both we’d have gone down on goal difference behind Birmingham!! |
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Reply | Richard’s awol ?
at 00:26 31 Jan 2024
Appreciate as fans we don’t see the individuals in the training ground each day (it’s bad enough seeing them once a week on the pitch) but I’m struggling to identify who all of these other players can be or if it’s just Richards. From Jan 2022 we clearly had an issue within the squad and one day it will come out, probably on Patreon, but most of those players have now moved on. Yes Beale recruited a load of duds but equally, other than a few, they have all moved on.
Of the first 11 that started on Saturday, there’s only one player I would have a concern about re attitude. Surely the Summer recruits, given the issues Gaz saw, must have had some form of assessment about their personalities and professionalism. Three of the recruits have played almost their entire careers with decent prem clubs (Begoviic, Cook, Colback). Others came through very good academies with appropriate standards. Others like Cannon and Fox don’t seem to ring any alarm bells.
Re Martin’s comments last year, departures since have included Balogun, Laird , Roberts, Lowe, Stef, Dozell, Amos and Dieng, all of whom had various comments re attitude (other than Amos and Stef unless I missed something there).
Surely, surely the professionalism, attitude and approach must have changed since last year? |
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Reply | Jack Diamond
at 21:59 10 Jan 2024
The law in England is that you remain innocent until proved guilty. The burden of proof may vary between the balance of probabilities and beyond reasonable doubt but failure to achieve the burden of proof requires a not guilty verdict, leaving the accused to remain innocent.
I do not believe there is any burden of proof that requires ‘certainty’ and so a claim could be made in the criminal court or a civil court against the accuser. I presume the CPS would have to do a very big about turn to make a case against the accuser (whom they determined the victim in the case and thought there was a reasonable prospect of a conviction to follow through with the court case in the first place).
The fact that someone accused is found not guilty in a court of law and people subsequently say they were just not proved guilty rather than declared innocent is exactly why the stigma of the claim follows them around for the rest of their lives.
Legally he is innocent |
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Reply | ‘Fake’ hoops left me shocked and speechless
at 00:36 8 Apr 2023
I’m absolutely gutted tonight, like everyone else, and what gets me the most is that we just don’t look capable of attacking or defending. I understand the anger and frustration on here and I’m not going to defend the players, management or board but…..
……do we really think they aren’t trying or don’t care? Some perhaps but …. Chair & Albert love the club,Dykes has come back from pneumonia desperate to play, Field always gives his best etc. I don’t actually see a lot to dislike in these players individually when compared for example to the toxic ones in the Prem in 12/13 and 14/15 and it’s chalk and cheese.
I don’t know the answer, this evening I barely know the bloody question, but I don’t think it’s caring or effort here. There is a real lack of leadership in our squad, the four old heads that Warbs used to talk about are completely missing from this side. The confidence is shot to pieces in defence, and injuries and loss of form have stifled our attacking interactive play between Ilias and Willock etc that was so key to space being created for the full backs etc.
We just look a very poor side, that is very low on confidence and we needed someone to get a hold of the dressing room 4 months ago…….
What really hurts is that 2023 is the time I chose to start bringing my son with me. Leaving the R block for random seats in the family section each game feels odd as it’s over 25 years since I sat in the loft, but also heartbreaking that my 7 year old so looks forward to coming and then watches this crap!!!
We all deserve so, so much better [Post edited 8 Apr 2023 0:38]
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Reply | Our Midfield
at 20:34 2 Apr 2023
As I believe Bryan Clough said (or something like this) ….if you are conceding goals at one and and not scoring at the other, the problem is midfield…….been our problem for a while….all the way back to when Holloway had to play Hall in front of the back 4 to have a chance of getting a result |
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Reply | Just Back
at 20:03 11 Mar 2023
Great performance today. Moved from the R block to the family stand on lower loft to take my son and he absolutely loved it. His first game against Blackburn wasn’t as successful!
You get a different perspective from almost pitch level, and whilst I thought Kakay and Field were brilliant today in particular, I’m surprised no one has mentioned Lowe. I thought his desire and pace was massive in breaking up play and provided a massive threat |
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Reply | Let’s rock and roll? Preview
at 12:46 25 Feb 2023
Great preview as always Clive.
I’m taking my son for his first game today, 7 last month, got his new kit on really excited and for the first time in a while so am I. We had pencilled this one in 6 weeks or so ago but was getting concerned about the atmosphere turning toxic…..but the nostalgia of Wildthing back will improve matters.
Also moved my season ticket from the R block to the loft - not sat there for around 20 years.
Big day!!
Come on u Rrrrsss |
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Reply | Back 4?
at 17:37 18 Feb 2023
We’re conceding 3 a game….anyone…
But seriously, pre the injury Kakay could have played there, Masterson before being loaned out, JKS when he was fit. Today possibly Gubbins….but this could have been tried 6 weeks ago |
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Thread | Back 4?
at 17:27 18 Feb 2023
I appreciate it was working earlier in the season but I am absolutely baffled as to why we haven’t reverted to a back 3. One of the first things good managers tend to do is shore up the back line. We look pretty toothless going forward and without Chair and Willock working in tandom have looked goal shy for over 2 years.
Over the past 5 years, probably longer, we have looked far more comfortable with 3 at the back than playing a back 4. Given our position, inability to keep clean sheets etc I would have thought changing to a back 3 with wing backs would have at least helped reduce the tide of goals against. We just look so easy to play though |
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