| Citizen Army on 14:51 - Jan 25 with 2966 views | Boundy |
Conscription is not voluntary . |  |
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| Citizen Army on 15:43 - Jan 25 with 2940 views | SgorioFruit |
They can shove it. |  |
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| Citizen Army on 15:57 - Jan 25 with 2932 views | AnotherJohn |
I've noticed many posts from what are mostly younger people on social media saying they would not join up or fight under any circumstances. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean they would be safe from an aggressor. A lot of people who were innocently walking around Bucha and other Ukrainian towns didn't want to fight either, but are no longer with us now.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur50/5561/2022/en/
If push gives way to shove it may come down to: "Do you want to be hanged as a sheep or a lamb?" | | | |
| Citizen Army on 16:05 - Jan 25 with 2926 views | Boundy |
| Citizen Army on 15:43 - Jan 25 by SgorioFruit |
They can shove it. |
That's the spirit , | |
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| Citizen Army on 16:20 - Jan 25 with 2911 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Citizen Army on 15:43 - Jan 25 by SgorioFruit |
They can shove it. |
Well said ….
Strange to use the ‘Citizen Army’ line as well, given that the Irish Citizen Army were a body of volunteers, equipped and drilled in defiance of the British administration and consisting of Socialist workers. Circa 1916.
‘Brexit Army’ would be more appropriate given the huge number of British patriots who stand ready to jump aboard. Mind you most are over 70 with a light smell of urine following them around. Think Trump.
I’d much rather watch the Swans. |  |
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| Citizen Army on 16:39 - Jan 25 with 2900 views | AnotherJohn |
| Citizen Army on 16:20 - Jan 25 by Kilkennyjack |
Well said ….
Strange to use the ‘Citizen Army’ line as well, given that the Irish Citizen Army were a body of volunteers, equipped and drilled in defiance of the British administration and consisting of Socialist workers. Circa 1916.
‘Brexit Army’ would be more appropriate given the huge number of British patriots who stand ready to jump aboard. Mind you most are over 70 with a light smell of urine following them around. Think Trump.
I’d much rather watch the Swans. |
May have to take along your helmet.
https://www.mansworldindia.com/sports/football-stadium-in-ukraine-destroyed-afte | | | |
| Citizen Army on 17:27 - Jan 25 with 2868 views | STID2017 |
Thankfully I am too old to be of use
Hopefully Resloven is younger than me and will be conscripted ? 
He'd have the enemy on the run by boring them into submission
Just tell 'em about the Trust Res, that'll do for them |  |
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| Citizen Army on 17:28 - Jan 25 with 2867 views | SullutaCreturned |
First of all the government has this far said there's no chance of this happening.
Second, if we were invaded it sounds like the younger generation are going to roll over and give in.
No wonder the country is in such a state. All the young people want to do is play on Xbox and post rubbish on social media. They don't like being spoken to with angry words and need safe spaces, they think us oldies are uselss, out of date and responsible for all their problems but if there was a threat of war they'd buckle quicker than a soaking wet cardboard box. | | | |
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| Citizen Army on 17:51 - Jan 25 with 2833 views | 1983 |
Hurt my family, my dogs, my friends and I'll square up anything else is not my war let the dirty politicians fight. |  |
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| Citizen Army on 18:18 - Jan 25 with 2814 views | shingle |
I would hope no really serious conflicts and no wars to fight just yet thankfully, it will be on our own streets once it does start and it will be our grandchildren or great grandchildren who will be the ones dying and fighting against what this pathetic generation is currently allowing to happen, granted we have managed with different cultures in the past but the types now flooding the country in there droves are a completely more sinister kettle of fish. | | | |
| Citizen Army on 18:33 - Jan 25 with 2799 views | max936 |
| Citizen Army on 17:28 - Jan 25 by SullutaCreturned |
First of all the government has this far said there's no chance of this happening.
Second, if we were invaded it sounds like the younger generation are going to roll over and give in.
No wonder the country is in such a state. All the young people want to do is play on Xbox and post rubbish on social media. They don't like being spoken to with angry words and need safe spaces, they think us oldies are uselss, out of date and responsible for all their problems but if there was a threat of war they'd buckle quicker than a soaking wet cardboard box. |
We're a tiny little nation, but our so called politicians always want to be at the forefront of any conflict, its ok from them, they and their families will be whisked away to their secret hideouts smiling and smirking. |  |
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| Citizen Army on 19:39 - Jan 25 with 2769 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Citizen Army on 17:28 - Jan 25 by SullutaCreturned |
First of all the government has this far said there's no chance of this happening.
Second, if we were invaded it sounds like the younger generation are going to roll over and give in.
No wonder the country is in such a state. All the young people want to do is play on Xbox and post rubbish on social media. They don't like being spoken to with angry words and need safe spaces, they think us oldies are uselss, out of date and responsible for all their problems but if there was a threat of war they'd buckle quicker than a soaking wet cardboard box. |
Xbox is better than being blown to bits by a Russian missile mind …, | |
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| Citizen Army on 19:40 - Jan 25 with 2767 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Citizen Army on 17:51 - Jan 25 by 1983 |
Hurt my family, my dogs, my friends and I'll square up anything else is not my war let the dirty politicians fight. |
Well said, you speak for many. | |
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| Citizen Army on 19:42 - Jan 25 with 2766 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Citizen Army on 18:33 - Jan 25 by max936 |
We're a tiny little nation, but our so called politicians always want to be at the forefront of any conflict, its ok from them, they and their families will be whisked away to their secret hideouts smiling and smirking. |
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| Citizen Army on 19:48 - Jan 25 with 2760 views | Boundy |
| Citizen Army on 17:28 - Jan 25 by SullutaCreturned |
First of all the government has this far said there's no chance of this happening.
Second, if we were invaded it sounds like the younger generation are going to roll over and give in.
No wonder the country is in such a state. All the young people want to do is play on Xbox and post rubbish on social media. They don't like being spoken to with angry words and need safe spaces, they think us oldies are uselss, out of date and responsible for all their problems but if there was a threat of war they'd buckle quicker than a soaking wet cardboard box. |
I have to concur . just looking at the reaction on here dare anyone suggest that they may have to stand up and fight for their beliefs , the only thing is their beliefs are not compatible to what's really important. They'd rather watch others ( and criticise from behind a keyboard) There used to be a thing called civic pride which included being proud of your country but nowadays all we see is rubbish everywhere , the stink of skunk in the street and a f*** you attitude.
I await "old man" response from the those who I described above . | |
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| Citizen Army on 19:50 - Jan 25 with 2756 views | Togg |
Let's be honest. Most of the posters on here are too old for the Home Guard. It's always the young who go to war and will bare the scars. | | | |
| Citizen Army on 19:54 - Jan 25 with 2750 views | Boundy |
| Citizen Army on 19:50 - Jan 25 by Togg |
Let's be honest. Most of the posters on here are too old for the Home Guard. It's always the young who go to war and will bare the scars. |
and some of those posters on here may have done their duty in an earlier life . | |
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| Citizen Army on 20:01 - Jan 25 with 2739 views | Gwyn737 |
| Citizen Army on 19:50 - Jan 25 by Togg |
Let's be honest. Most of the posters on here are too old for the Home Guard. It's always the young who go to war and will bare the scars. |
Absolutely.
When you hear some talking about bringing back National Service, when anyone alive now who did it themselves would be over 90 makes me think about their motives.
And for a bit or balance, and as someone who works with young people, most of them are brilliant. | | | |
| Citizen Army on 20:23 - Jan 25 with 2716 views | Boundy |
| Citizen Army on 20:01 - Jan 25 by Gwyn737 |
Absolutely.
When you hear some talking about bringing back National Service, when anyone alive now who did it themselves would be over 90 makes me think about their motives.
And for a bit or balance, and as someone who works with young people, most of them are brilliant. |
2 questions if you don't mind
1. What motives would you suggest there might be
2. Brilliant at what ?
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| Citizen Army on 20:31 - Jan 25 with 2695 views | Gwyn737 |
| Citizen Army on 20:23 - Jan 25 by Boundy |
2 questions if you don't mind
1. What motives would you suggest there might be
2. Brilliant at what ?
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Genuinely don’t know the motives behind saying those things 🤷🏻
The list for being brilliant is endless tbh. I find most young people bright, thoughtful, outward looking, keen to improve, willing to embrace new things, dedicated to whatever they’ve chosen to do.
The list goes on. | | | |
| Citizen Army on 21:41 - Jan 25 with 2654 views | Boundy |
| Citizen Army on 20:31 - Jan 25 by Gwyn737 |
Genuinely don’t know the motives behind saying those things 🤷🏻
The list for being brilliant is endless tbh. I find most young people bright, thoughtful, outward looking, keen to improve, willing to embrace new things, dedicated to whatever they’ve chosen to do.
The list goes on. |
Well my motive would be (should 40 years miraculously disappear ) is having pride in myself , my community , my country then I would join up as I did then , what you've described in today's youth is a selfish, all me me . Even go back 30 years ago this was better more caring society now all I see is greed , selfishness and a lack of pride in ones self unless of course you discount the many who are more concerned with their looks than their neighbours who's name they quite likely doesn't know.
That's my opinion , maybe one which many would disagree with as is their prerogative. | |
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| Citizen Army on 21:50 - Jan 25 with 2647 views | Gwyn737 |
| Citizen Army on 21:41 - Jan 25 by Boundy |
Well my motive would be (should 40 years miraculously disappear ) is having pride in myself , my community , my country then I would join up as I did then , what you've described in today's youth is a selfish, all me me . Even go back 30 years ago this was better more caring society now all I see is greed , selfishness and a lack of pride in ones self unless of course you discount the many who are more concerned with their looks than their neighbours who's name they quite likely doesn't know.
That's my opinion , maybe one which many would disagree with as is their prerogative. |
We've all had different experiences so I wouldn’t tell you you’re wrong.
It’s just think it’s a shame that when you turn on the news or read a paper we only see the bad. | | | |
| Citizen Army on 21:58 - Jan 25 with 2637 views | Boundy |
| Citizen Army on 21:50 - Jan 25 by Gwyn737 |
We've all had different experiences so I wouldn’t tell you you’re wrong.
It’s just think it’s a shame that when you turn on the news or read a paper we only see the bad. |
Nor I about your experiences , but its not just reading the news, for me its all around where I live , kids including girls using every expletive known to man and some not, rubbish every where , constant vandalism , lack of respect to the everyone ,the open selling of drugs ,I could go on but I'm boring myself now so wont. | |
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| Citizen Army on 22:01 - Jan 25 with 2634 views | lifelong |
| Citizen Army on 21:41 - Jan 25 by Boundy |
Well my motive would be (should 40 years miraculously disappear ) is having pride in myself , my community , my country then I would join up as I did then , what you've described in today's youth is a selfish, all me me . Even go back 30 years ago this was better more caring society now all I see is greed , selfishness and a lack of pride in ones self unless of course you discount the many who are more concerned with their looks than their neighbours who's name they quite likely doesn't know.
That's my opinion , maybe one which many would disagree with as is their prerogative. |
Do you think you are tarring all of today’s young people with the same brush?
Go back 60 years or more when you had all sorts of anti social and criminal behaviour from some of the then young people when flick knives and knuckle dusters were the weapons of choice. |  | | |
| Citizen Army on 22:03 - Jan 25 with 2634 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Citizen Army on 21:41 - Jan 25 by Boundy |
Well my motive would be (should 40 years miraculously disappear ) is having pride in myself , my community , my country then I would join up as I did then , what you've described in today's youth is a selfish, all me me . Even go back 30 years ago this was better more caring society now all I see is greed , selfishness and a lack of pride in ones self unless of course you discount the many who are more concerned with their looks than their neighbours who's name they quite likely doesn't know.
That's my opinion , maybe one which many would disagree with as is their prerogative. |
The decline started with Margaret Thatcher.
When the current politicians lie and display widespread corruption, whilst the King and his brother have an openly dreadful record in choosing their so/calked ‘friends’ …. Then i can understand that people struggle to take any pride in that nation.
The patriotic thing to do is to demand urgent and lasting change.
They lied about Port Talbots steel and its cost us big time.
They can save Bankers jobs but not steel workers jobs
Perhaps the bankers should go fight the Russians…? [Post edited 25 Jan 22:06]
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