| Net spend champions once again on 10:07 - Sep 1 with 3225 views | grumpy |
Those 5 clubs with the lowest net spend(with perhaps the exception of Aston Villa) are also going to be fighting relegation this season. |  | |  |
| Net spend champions once again on 10:28 - Sep 1 with 3193 views | Buggalugs |
Fantastic to see, back where we belong. |  |
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| Net spend champions once again on 11:03 - Sep 1 with 3147 views | ericofarabia |
Look at the absolute state of Arsenal's spending! |  | | |
| Net spend champions once again on 11:06 - Sep 1 with 3143 views | Berber |
| Net spend champions once again on 10:07 - Sep 1 by grumpy |
Those 5 clubs with the lowest net spend(with perhaps the exception of Aston Villa) are also going to be fighting relegation this season. |
You could say that applies to the whole of the lower half of last season's table, substituting the promoted sides for the relegated ones. |  |
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| Net spend champions once again on 11:22 - Sep 1 with 3124 views | saint22 |
I wonder how that will look come May and the loss from relegation |  | | |
| Net spend champions once again on 11:45 - Sep 1 with 3079 views | dirk_doone |
"Southampton registering a league-topping £25m surplus."
It was tough competing against the likes of Norwich and Watford but we've done it again. What an achievement!
Man City, Man United, Spurs and Leicester fans must be green with envy. [Post edited 1 Sep 2021 11:53]
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| Net spend champions once again on 12:00 - Sep 1 with 3048 views | TripleNiemi |
| Net spend champions once again on 11:45 - Sep 1 by dirk_doone |
"Southampton registering a league-topping £25m surplus."
It was tough competing against the likes of Norwich and Watford but we've done it again. What an achievement!
Man City, Man United, Spurs and Leicester fans must be green with envy. [Post edited 1 Sep 2021 11:53]
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Don't fret lad and just remember, when one of those cartel clubs have a blip of a season, we will be there to 'mop up' one of those European spots...... |  |
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| Net spend champions once again on 12:27 - Sep 1 with 3017 views | VeloSaint |
Isn't that article and table complete bollocks though? For a start it says we've only spent £15M... that was the Armstrong fee alone, what about all the others..... |  | | |
| Net spend champions once again on 13:15 - Sep 1 with 2947 views | SonicBoom |
Anyway who cares ??
We've spent big in the past and it was a disaster. We've only just recovered.
We spunked 20 million on Carillo and how did that turn out? |  | | |
| Net spend champions once again on 20:21 - Sep 1 with 2788 views | Butty101 |
| Net spend champions once again on 13:15 - Sep 1 by SonicBoom |
Anyway who cares ??
We've spent big in the past and it was a disaster. We've only just recovered.
We spunked 20 million on Carillo and how did that turn out? |
I do as by definition the first 11 is now considerably weakened. |  |
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| Net spend champions once again on 15:30 - Sep 2 with 2604 views | Kennington |
| Net spend champions once again on 13:15 - Sep 1 by SonicBoom |
Anyway who cares ??
We've spent big in the past and it was a disaster. We've only just recovered.
We spunked 20 million on Carillo and how did that turn out? |
Not sure we’ve ever spent “big” in the past. Even if we did and it wasn’t spent wisely doesn’t mean we shouldn’t again. I keep writing it, but we have been in the richest league for a decade, we should have money to burn. We should be able to afford flops as our revenue and profit should be that of an established premier league club that can cope with failed signings; it’s just part of the game that some players don’t work out. Instead everyone still bangs on about Carillio etc. In the scheme of things every established premier league team has their Carillios but most just shrug their shoulders and buy a better replacement. Instead saints seem to have this mentality that we tried to play with the big boys once but never again. | |
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| Net spend champions once again on 15:40 - Sep 2 with 2594 views | Bicester_North |
| Net spend champions once again on 20:21 - Sep 1 by Butty101 |
I do as by definition the first 11 is now considerably weakened. |
Too early to say surely?
Armstrong, Perraud and the gorilla May all have great seasons
Or maybe not but we can’t tell yet | |
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| Net spend champions once again on 21:11 - Sep 2 with 2471 views | hedgeend61 |
| Net spend champions once again on 11:03 - Sep 1 by ericofarabia |
Look at the absolute state of Arsenal's spending! |
The Arsenal have a net spend of around £500 million (give or take a few million) over the last 5 years, progressing from being rubbish in 5th, to garbage 8th the last few seasons.
So spending a bundle offers no guarantees, but they should have just about enough to stay up this season. |  | | |
| Net spend champions once again on 11:33 - Sep 3 with 2329 views | SaintNick |
| Net spend champions once again on 21:11 - Sep 2 by hedgeend61 |
The Arsenal have a net spend of around £500 million (give or take a few million) over the last 5 years, progressing from being rubbish in 5th, to garbage 8th the last few seasons.
So spending a bundle offers no guarantees, but they should have just about enough to stay up this season. |
Agreed it is easy to talk about net spending leagues etc, but the reality is it is about how you spend it, last season we had a net spend of £16 million after transfers out'
Aston Villa had a net spend of £92 million, Everton £86 million, yet they only finished 4 & 5 places above us meaning their prize money from the Premier League pot was between 9 & 11 million more than us.
So who would you say was the more successful club last season, given we reached an FA Cup semi final.
As HE61 says spending a bundle excites the fans but is it really good business, you have to look what you have to spend against what you can actually achieve.
Fans see £90 million spent and think the club has ambition, but what is that ambition, what is the point in spending that much, if you want to break into the top 6 on a regular basis you need to be spending £150 million every summer and spending it wisely |  |
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| Net spend champions once again on 11:37 - Sep 3 with 2325 views | saints__fan__73 |
| Net spend champions once again on 11:33 - Sep 3 by SaintNick |
Agreed it is easy to talk about net spending leagues etc, but the reality is it is about how you spend it, last season we had a net spend of £16 million after transfers out'
Aston Villa had a net spend of £92 million, Everton £86 million, yet they only finished 4 & 5 places above us meaning their prize money from the Premier League pot was between 9 & 11 million more than us.
So who would you say was the more successful club last season, given we reached an FA Cup semi final.
As HE61 says spending a bundle excites the fans but is it really good business, you have to look what you have to spend against what you can actually achieve.
Fans see £90 million spent and think the club has ambition, but what is that ambition, what is the point in spending that much, if you want to break into the top 6 on a regular basis you need to be spending £150 million every summer and spending it wisely |
The dull thing is supporting a club whose only ambition is to finish 17th and ensure another year on the PL gravy train
Providing worthwhile entertainment for their customers is not really that important to them.
It's why more an more people are drifting away from paying to watch a game in person. |  |
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| Net spend champions once again on 14:20 - Sep 3 with 2281 views | Kennington |
| Net spend champions once again on 11:33 - Sep 3 by SaintNick |
Agreed it is easy to talk about net spending leagues etc, but the reality is it is about how you spend it, last season we had a net spend of £16 million after transfers out'
Aston Villa had a net spend of £92 million, Everton £86 million, yet they only finished 4 & 5 places above us meaning their prize money from the Premier League pot was between 9 & 11 million more than us.
So who would you say was the more successful club last season, given we reached an FA Cup semi final.
As HE61 says spending a bundle excites the fans but is it really good business, you have to look what you have to spend against what you can actually achieve.
Fans see £90 million spent and think the club has ambition, but what is that ambition, what is the point in spending that much, if you want to break into the top 6 on a regular basis you need to be spending £150 million every summer and spending it wisely |
Arsenal have spent poorly, but they still finished a fair few places higher than we did last season and the season before that. We would I think all be very happy with 8th place, so why highlight them as they’ve actually performed far better than us. | |
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| Net spend champions once again on 15:05 - Sep 3 with 2261 views | dirk_doone |
| Net spend champions once again on 14:20 - Sep 3 by Kennington |
Arsenal have spent poorly, but they still finished a fair few places higher than we did last season and the season before that. We would I think all be very happy with 8th place, so why highlight them as they’ve actually performed far better than us. |
They've won 8 major trophies ( 2 PLs and 6 FACs) in the last 20 years and never finished lower than 8th. They've been in Europe every one of those years. I'd take that.
What set Arsenal back was the enormous cost of their new stadium (£500 million), which opened in 2006. Because of that they have struggled to compete with the likes of Man City and Chelsea in the transfer market to have a squad strong enough to stay top of the league. They even had to sell some of their best players (a bit like Saints) and couldn't offer top players the sort of wages that their rivals could. In the long-term, they will get back to the very top again but they'll need to replace Arteta first. [Post edited 3 Sep 2021 15:11]
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| Net spend champions once again on 21:12 - Sep 3 with 2187 views | hedgeend61 |
| Net spend champions once again on 14:20 - Sep 3 by Kennington |
Arsenal have spent poorly, but they still finished a fair few places higher than we did last season and the season before that. We would I think all be very happy with 8th place, so why highlight them as they’ve actually performed far better than us. |
Comparing Arsenal and Saints is not really comparing eggs with eggs.
Arsenal finished in the Top 4 20 years on the spin, up until the last five years in which they had a net spend of around 500m and got worse each season. If we'd have spent that kind of dough we'd probably expect to finish around 6-8th, otherwise what's the point of spending that much. That's not Arsenal's expectation.
The last few games the likes of Cedric, Chambers and Holding have played.
These 3 are pony who they couldn't give away for free, and would struggle to get PL football elsewhere.
Arsenal are a big spending shambles, but may still have just enough to stay up. | | | |
| Net spend champions once again on 21:25 - Sep 3 with 2177 views | hedgeend61 |
| Net spend champions once again on 11:37 - Sep 3 by saints__fan__73 |
The dull thing is supporting a club whose only ambition is to finish 17th and ensure another year on the PL gravy train
Providing worthwhile entertainment for their customers is not really that important to them.
It's why more an more people are drifting away from paying to watch a game in person. |
"It's why more an more people are drifting away from paying to watch a game in person".
PL average attendances have risen pretty much every year (pre covid) from 34,599 in 2012 to 38,181 in 2019, Championship up about 3,00, L1 up about 1,500.
Don't seem to be drifting away at all | | | |
| Net spend champions once again on 01:29 - Sep 4 with 2131 views | Butty101 |
| Net spend champions once again on 21:25 - Sep 3 by hedgeend61 |
"It's why more an more people are drifting away from paying to watch a game in person".
PL average attendances have risen pretty much every year (pre covid) from 34,599 in 2012 to 38,181 in 2019, Championship up about 3,00, L1 up about 1,500.
Don't seem to be drifting away at all |
That’s not a fair comparison, since 2012 for sure instance Spurs have gone from an average of 35k to 58k due to new stadia.
The big6 might see increased attendances and prop stats like yours up, but attendances are not better across the board | |
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| Net spend champions once again on 05:17 - Sep 4 with 2121 views | Berber |
| Net spend champions once again on 15:30 - Sep 2 by Kennington |
Not sure we’ve ever spent “big” in the past. Even if we did and it wasn’t spent wisely doesn’t mean we shouldn’t again. I keep writing it, but we have been in the richest league for a decade, we should have money to burn. We should be able to afford flops as our revenue and profit should be that of an established premier league club that can cope with failed signings; it’s just part of the game that some players don’t work out. Instead everyone still bangs on about Carillio etc. In the scheme of things every established premier league team has their Carillios but most just shrug their shoulders and buy a better replacement. Instead saints seem to have this mentality that we tried to play with the big boys once but never again. |
It would be good if you could show which clubs outside of the big six have money to burn. Over the past 10 years a good few have been relegated then struggled back up, but not on the money they have "earned". | |
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| Net spend champions once again on 08:52 - Sep 4 with 2069 views | Kennington |
| Net spend champions once again on 05:17 - Sep 4 by Berber |
It would be good if you could show which clubs outside of the big six have money to burn. Over the past 10 years a good few have been relegated then struggled back up, but not on the money they have "earned". |
Looking at the 2011-12 table, I think only Everton outside of the big 6 have been in the premier league for this long. So I standby my comment that we of all clubs have squandered the opportunity of being in the league for so long, and really not having that much more infrastructure or new revenue streams than we did 10 years ago. | |
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| Net spend champions once again on 09:42 - Sep 4 with 2046 views | grumpy |
| Net spend champions once again on 08:52 - Sep 4 by Kennington |
Looking at the 2011-12 table, I think only Everton outside of the big 6 have been in the premier league for this long. So I standby my comment that we of all clubs have squandered the opportunity of being in the league for so long, and really not having that much more infrastructure or new revenue streams than we did 10 years ago. |
If your ambition is survival that will be the best you can ever achieve. | | | |
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