| wee jimmy krankie 08:15 - Dec 23 with 80651 views | britferry |
I'm not a hypocrite, the English made me break my own rules, we demand another once in a lifetime vote
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| wee jimmy krankie on 09:01 - May 10 with 1528 views | Boundy |
| wee jimmy krankie on 07:16 - May 4 by felixstowe_jack |
Scotland gains independence from a democratic UK only to surrender it's sovereignty to an undemocratic EU. A hard border with England, the euro in their pockets and the loss of their annual £15 billion UK subsidy. A nightmare scenario for Scotland. |
But dream one for me , I'm fed up with the sweaty sock bleating on and on , let her take Scotland out , but be clear no UK currency and bring the submarine fleet south and with it much needed jobs . | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 10:00 - May 10 with 1511 views | Catullus |
| wee jimmy krankie on 09:01 - May 10 by Boundy |
But dream one for me , I'm fed up with the sweaty sock bleating on and on , let her take Scotland out , but be clear no UK currency and bring the submarine fleet south and with it much needed jobs . |
I'm all for letting them vote. If most of them want to go indy then let them. There are many advantages for the rest of us. The saving of that 15 billion to start with, bringing jobs to the rest of us, the subs could come to Wales!
The biggest gain may be for Wales, we would see beyond doubt what leaving the UK would do. It could drive up support for indy or kill it stone dead!
So let them vote but this time insist the clause about "once in a generation" goes in the legislation and put a set number of years in, it may drive them to vote to leave but it's their choice. Also then, put a clause in saying they wouldn't be allowed back into the UK unless their deficit was less than 3%, they say after the pandemic it could be 26-28%.
PS, we should also tell them they can't use the pound sterling and that indy means a hard border. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 11:19 - May 10 with 1493 views | onehunglow |
| wee jimmy krankie on 10:00 - May 10 by Catullus |
I'm all for letting them vote. If most of them want to go indy then let them. There are many advantages for the rest of us. The saving of that 15 billion to start with, bringing jobs to the rest of us, the subs could come to Wales!
The biggest gain may be for Wales, we would see beyond doubt what leaving the UK would do. It could drive up support for indy or kill it stone dead!
So let them vote but this time insist the clause about "once in a generation" goes in the legislation and put a set number of years in, it may drive them to vote to leave but it's their choice. Also then, put a clause in saying they wouldn't be allowed back into the UK unless their deficit was less than 3%, they say after the pandemic it could be 26-28%.
PS, we should also tell them they can't use the pound sterling and that indy means a hard border. |
There would be a national day of celebration -in England-to see this thee bitter bigoted land leave the Union.
The late Sean Connery -a big Indy-loved Scotland that much he lived in the Bahamas | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 12:44 - May 10 with 1480 views | trampie |
| wee jimmy krankie on 09:01 - May 10 by Boundy |
But dream one for me , I'm fed up with the sweaty sock bleating on and on , let her take Scotland out , but be clear no UK currency and bring the submarine fleet south and with it much needed jobs . |
It's their currency, their Queen, their military, it's up to them. |  |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 14:26 - May 10 with 1457 views | Catullus |
| wee jimmy krankie on 12:44 - May 10 by trampie |
It's their currency, their Queen, their military, it's up to them. |
Oh god your wrong again, the pound sterling is the UK's currency. If Scotland leave the Uk they will need a new currency unless they choose to have financial governance from the bank of England.
It's not their military, it's the UK's military, if Scotland leaves all those jobs goSouth too.
Their Queen...well they seem eager to dump the UK, the SNP do anyway. Do they want the Queen to still be their monarch? | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 14:51 - May 10 with 1446 views | raynor94 |
| wee jimmy krankie on 12:44 - May 10 by trampie |
It's their currency, their Queen, their military, it's up to them. |
You really do post some guff, try reading up on things. |  |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 15:07 - May 10 with 1433 views | trampie |
| wee jimmy krankie on 14:51 - May 10 by raynor94 |
You really do post some guff, try reading up on things. |
Pound sterling is their currency (Scotland) as well as ours, places like Jersey and Isle of Mann etc use it and they are separate to the UK.
The Queen is head of state of Scotland, an independent Scotland could keep her if they wanted.
Scotland have a stake in the British Army, some of it in a divorce by definition would be theirs. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 17:05 - May 10 with 1403 views | Groo |
| wee jimmy krankie on 15:07 - May 10 by trampie |
Pound sterling is their currency (Scotland) as well as ours, places like Jersey and Isle of Mann etc use it and they are separate to the UK.
The Queen is head of state of Scotland, an independent Scotland could keep her if they wanted.
Scotland have a stake in the British Army, some of it in a divorce by definition would be theirs. |
Would they want to keep her as Head of State, its always possible of course, Canada, Australia and New Zealand for instance still has her as the Head of State. Others, such as India dropped the Queen, others may follow once the Queen passes.
As far as the Pound is concerned, I'm not sure the UK could stop them from using it, but all decisions on thing that effect its value are made by the UK Government, so it could make it difficult for Scotland to manage its budget using a currency it has no control on. Some Countries do similar with the US Dollar.
Scotland would keep the Scottish regiments of course and some equipment I'm sure. |  |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 17:19 - May 10 with 1392 views | felixstowe_jack |
| wee jimmy krankie on 15:07 - May 10 by trampie |
Pound sterling is their currency (Scotland) as well as ours, places like Jersey and Isle of Mann etc use it and they are separate to the UK.
The Queen is head of state of Scotland, an independent Scotland could keep her if they wanted.
Scotland have a stake in the British Army, some of it in a divorce by definition would be theirs. |
Actually the channel islands have their own currency which is tied to the pound but it issues it's own notes and coins. Have you ever tried to spend a channel islands pound in a uk shop.
Pound sterling can be spent in Jersey or swapped on a 1 for 1 basis. Jersey notes coins are only legal currency in Jersey. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 17:21 - May 10 with 1387 views | Groo |
| wee jimmy krankie on 17:19 - May 10 by felixstowe_jack |
Actually the channel islands have their own currency which is tied to the pound but it issues it's own notes and coins. Have you ever tried to spend a channel islands pound in a uk shop.
Pound sterling can be spent in Jersey or swapped on a 1 for 1 basis. Jersey notes coins are only legal currency in Jersey. |
I've had Scottish notes refused in London too, no attempt at telling the shop owner its legal tendency would change his mind. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 17:28 - May 10 with 1384 views | felixstowe_jack |
| wee jimmy krankie on 17:21 - May 10 by Groo |
I've had Scottish notes refused in London too, no attempt at telling the shop owner its legal tendency would change his mind. |
If Scotland gets independence then indeed nobody south of the border would accept Scottish notes. I guess they could still be used in Scotland and it would be up to Scotland if they accepted bank of England notes. What would inevitably happen would be the establishment of a black market as Scottish notes lost their value. Not sure other countries would accepted payment for goods in anything other than dollars or sterling and then it would be cases of when Scotland run out of foriegn currencies. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 17:43 - May 10 with 1374 views | Groo |
| wee jimmy krankie on 17:28 - May 10 by felixstowe_jack |
If Scotland gets independence then indeed nobody south of the border would accept Scottish notes. I guess they could still be used in Scotland and it would be up to Scotland if they accepted bank of England notes. What would inevitably happen would be the establishment of a black market as Scottish notes lost their value. Not sure other countries would accepted payment for goods in anything other than dollars or sterling and then it would be cases of when Scotland run out of foriegn currencies. |
If they are going to join the EU, then it maybe better for them to change to the Euro.
Trouble is they have no idea how long it would take to join the EU, could be decades. I can see Spain not wanting to make it easy for them as it would make a precedent which they would not like. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 18:22 - May 10 with 1361 views | felixstowe_jack |
| wee jimmy krankie on 17:43 - May 10 by Groo |
If they are going to join the EU, then it maybe better for them to change to the Euro.
Trouble is they have no idea how long it would take to join the EU, could be decades. I can see Spain not wanting to make it easy for them as it would make a precedent which they would not like. |
It is compulsory for all new EU members to adopt the euro. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 18:23 - May 10 with 1361 views | Catullus |
| wee jimmy krankie on 15:07 - May 10 by trampie |
Pound sterling is their currency (Scotland) as well as ours, places like Jersey and Isle of Mann etc use it and they are separate to the UK.
The Queen is head of state of Scotland, an independent Scotland could keep her if they wanted.
Scotland have a stake in the British Army, some of it in a divorce by definition would be theirs. |
You are entirely wrong, pound sterling is the UK's currency and Scotland have already been warned on that.
The Queen os head of state of the UK but I can't see Scotland on the list...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/09/16/as-barbados-drops-queen-eli
She's head of the English Church but when in Scotland she worships in the Church of Scotland.
Groo, Scotland wouldn't keep Scottish regiments paid for by the UK, they would need to pay for their own armed forces. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 18:36 - May 10 with 1348 views | Groo |
| wee jimmy krankie on 18:23 - May 10 by Catullus |
You are entirely wrong, pound sterling is the UK's currency and Scotland have already been warned on that.
The Queen os head of state of the UK but I can't see Scotland on the list...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/09/16/as-barbados-drops-queen-eli
She's head of the English Church but when in Scotland she worships in the Church of Scotland.
Groo, Scotland wouldn't keep Scottish regiments paid for by the UK, they would need to pay for their own armed forces. |
Of course they would have to pay for them, but the Scottish regiments are based in Scotland, most of the men are Scottish.
I could see Scottish members of other regiments returning too.
I can also see some staying in the UK.
All this would have to be negotiated, including equipment, which also includes naval and air bases. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 19:58 - May 10 with 1325 views | Catullus |
| wee jimmy krankie on 18:36 - May 10 by Groo |
Of course they would have to pay for them, but the Scottish regiments are based in Scotland, most of the men are Scottish.
I could see Scottish members of other regiments returning too.
I can also see some staying in the UK.
All this would have to be negotiated, including equipment, which also includes naval and air bases. |
Yes but they wouldn't be the Scottish regiments as we know them, they'd be the Scottish amed forces nd I doubt if Scotland will want to keep all 6 of them. It's an expensive game, keeping an armyed forces. There will be Scottish Naval and Air force personnel too. I dont see Scotland stumping up for much of a navy or air force so many of those Scottish service people may well stay where they are. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 21:02 - May 10 with 1302 views | trampie |
| wee jimmy krankie on 18:23 - May 10 by Catullus |
You are entirely wrong, pound sterling is the UK's currency and Scotland have already been warned on that.
The Queen os head of state of the UK but I can't see Scotland on the list...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/09/16/as-barbados-drops-queen-eli
She's head of the English Church but when in Scotland she worships in the Church of Scotland.
Groo, Scotland wouldn't keep Scottish regiments paid for by the UK, they would need to pay for their own armed forces. |
Scotland has as much right to use the pound as England, N.Ireland or Wales.
Of course the Queen is Scotland's monarch and it will be up to them if they keep her, she would definitely want to stay as Scotland's monarch if they became independent. [Post edited 10 May 2021 21:08]
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| wee jimmy krankie on 21:43 - May 10 with 1280 views | Boundy |
| wee jimmy krankie on 12:44 - May 10 by trampie |
It's their currency, their Queen, their military, it's up to them. |
No its not , they can't have it all ways which I suspect they will try to obtain. The Queen could remain as head of state but will Sturgeon then ask the populace would they be happy to continue paying towards the monarchy and if indeed they'd want her as head of state and if not then become a republic . HM role would change dependant on the role specified in Scotland's written constitution.The issue of the armed forces is just as complex , would Scotland want to join NATO , where would it leave the UKs nuclear weaponry , its not simple to up sticks and all that decommissioning that would have to go with it . | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 21:48 - May 10 with 1269 views | Flashberryjack |
| wee jimmy krankie on 21:02 - May 10 by trampie |
Scotland has as much right to use the pound as England, N.Ireland or Wales.
Of course the Queen is Scotland's monarch and it will be up to them if they keep her, she would definitely want to stay as Scotland's monarch if they became independent. [Post edited 10 May 2021 21:08]
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I'm not sure they'd still have the right to use the British pound should they leave the union. |  |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 21:53 - May 10 with 1268 views | Boundy |
| wee jimmy krankie on 18:36 - May 10 by Groo |
Of course they would have to pay for them, but the Scottish regiments are based in Scotland, most of the men are Scottish.
I could see Scottish members of other regiments returning too.
I can also see some staying in the UK.
All this would have to be negotiated, including equipment, which also includes naval and air bases. |
Taking aside scottish regiments , the Royal Navy and Air force do not have the same organisational set up such as the army where we have welsh scottish English Irish regiments but there are two Royal Naval Reserve has two units in Scotland: HMS Dalriada in Glasgow and HMS Scotia in Rosyth and Dundee and 45 RM Commandos who fall under the umbrella of the RN . The 7 Scottish regiments if they left the umbrella of UK forces would be a significant loss but I can't imagine it'll be an easy process and not simple for individuals to jump ship because they are Scottish. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 21:54 - May 10 with 1267 views | Kilkennyjack |
| wee jimmy krankie on 21:48 - May 10 by Flashberryjack |
I'm not sure they'd still have the right to use the British pound should they leave the union. |
They do. |  |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 21:58 - May 10 with 1265 views | Kilkennyjack |
| wee jimmy krankie on 17:28 - May 10 by felixstowe_jack |
If Scotland gets independence then indeed nobody south of the border would accept Scottish notes. I guess they could still be used in Scotland and it would be up to Scotland if they accepted bank of England notes. What would inevitably happen would be the establishment of a black market as Scottish notes lost their value. Not sure other countries would accepted payment for goods in anything other than dollars or sterling and then it would be cases of when Scotland run out of foriegn currencies. |
It will be the same as any other currency in the world.
Dont worry your little brain, leave it to the professionals to sort.
Fact of life - not many businesses refuse money. | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 22:01 - May 10 with 1263 views | Kilkennyjack |
| wee jimmy krankie on 17:05 - May 10 by Groo |
Would they want to keep her as Head of State, its always possible of course, Canada, Australia and New Zealand for instance still has her as the Head of State. Others, such as India dropped the Queen, others may follow once the Queen passes.
As far as the Pound is concerned, I'm not sure the UK could stop them from using it, but all decisions on thing that effect its value are made by the UK Government, so it could make it difficult for Scotland to manage its budget using a currency it has no control on. Some Countries do similar with the US Dollar.
Scotland would keep the Scottish regiments of course and some equipment I'm sure. |
In IndyWales we will get shot of the Royal family.
Also if Prince Andrew sets one foot in Cymru he will be arrested and sent to the FBI.
Be good for him to clear his name .... | |
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| wee jimmy krankie on 22:03 - May 10 with 1262 views | Kilkennyjack |
| wee jimmy krankie on 18:22 - May 10 by felixstowe_jack |
It is compulsory for all new EU members to adopt the euro. |
Excellent news.
Cymru should insist on it. | |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 22:28 - May 10 with 1249 views | felixstowe_jack |
| wee jimmy krankie on 17:43 - May 10 by Groo |
If they are going to join the EU, then it maybe better for them to change to the Euro.
Trouble is they have no idea how long it would take to join the EU, could be decades. I can see Spain not wanting to make it easy for them as it would make a precedent which they would not like. |
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