| Retrospective refereeing. 20:08 - Mar 16 with 6444 views | smoulder |
Cannot for the life of me understand why non Premier league clubs are not allowed the luxury of VAR for a quarter final of the FA Cup. Surely that's prejudiced, considering all games should be played on a level footing. Tonight's refereeing was disgusting two proper awful decisions, especially the penalty, the ref from an obstructed view, puts the whistle to his mouth quicker than a brass in a brothel !!
Surely some retrospective reffing could be dealt out by the dodgy decisions panel, and deduct the two incorrect goals awarded by the officials.....in the name of fair play even......ffs |  | | |  |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 23:00 - Mar 16 with 1282 views | SwansNZ |
What facilities do you need to have VAR?
A few cameras and a monitor would do the trick. |  |
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| Retrospective refereeing. on 23:09 - Mar 16 with 1267 views | TenbySwan |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 22:48 - Mar 16 by Garyjack |
That's not evening things up though is it? That's a blatant attempt to infrluence the referee wouldn't you say? |
I did say 'in their eyes'
I think you are splitting hairs mate. |  | | |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 00:37 - Mar 17 with 1226 views | valleyboy |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 20:40 - Mar 16 by theloneranger |
So how do you know Swans voted against VAR??
"A minimum of 14 clubs had to agree to the proposal for it to be requested, though the Premier League did not disclose if there were any dissenters." |
It was repeated by the commentator on BT tonight
First read about Swansea rejecting using VAR on icwales. With the main comment being that they were surprised that Swansea had rejected using VAR. As they were a club that had been involved in some bad decisions over the years
Also Pep Guardiola said tonight that you can blame the clubs that voted against it for Man City’s lucky win, but he only mentioned Man U and Chelsea that voted against it |  | | |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 00:47 - Mar 17 with 1217 views | NeathJack |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 00:37 - Mar 17 by valleyboy |
It was repeated by the commentator on BT tonight
First read about Swansea rejecting using VAR on icwales. With the main comment being that they were surprised that Swansea had rejected using VAR. As they were a club that had been involved in some bad decisions over the years
Also Pep Guardiola said tonight that you can blame the clubs that voted against it for Man City’s lucky win, but he only mentioned Man U and Chelsea that voted against it |
Please provide a link to him saying that. Not that it has any relevance to the FA's ludicrous decision not to have VAR in place for the game. [Post edited 17 Mar 2019 0:50]
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| Retrospective refereeing. on 00:49 - Mar 17 with 1216 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 00:37 - Mar 17 by valleyboy |
It was repeated by the commentator on BT tonight
First read about Swansea rejecting using VAR on icwales. With the main comment being that they were surprised that Swansea had rejected using VAR. As they were a club that had been involved in some bad decisions over the years
Also Pep Guardiola said tonight that you can blame the clubs that voted against it for Man City’s lucky win, but he only mentioned Man U and Chelsea that voted against it |
Well blaming Man Utd and Chelsea for voting against implementing VAR in the PL is utter bollox for a start as this was an FA Cup game and VAR was being used in the other games played today, so... |  |
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| Retrospective refereeing. on 12:24 - Mar 17 with 1103 views | valleyboy |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 00:47 - Mar 17 by NeathJack |
Please provide a link to him saying that. Not that it has any relevance to the FA's ludicrous decision not to have VAR in place for the game. [Post edited 17 Mar 2019 0:50]
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If you have recorded the game, then play it back just after Manchester City scored the third goal
The point I was making to the Lone Ranger, that if this VAR descision was done by a secret vote. Then why did Guardiola also mention Man U and Chelsea in his after match comment
Perhaps it was a case of him been polite to Swansea in not mentioning them, especially that Man City had got away with scoring not one goal but two
As a matter of interest
Does the word “taxi” have a connection with you | | | |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 12:32 - Mar 17 with 1089 views | theloneranger |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 12:24 - Mar 17 by valleyboy |
If you have recorded the game, then play it back just after Manchester City scored the third goal
The point I was making to the Lone Ranger, that if this VAR descision was done by a secret vote. Then why did Guardiola also mention Man U and Chelsea in his after match comment
Perhaps it was a case of him been polite to Swansea in not mentioning them, especially that Man City had got away with scoring not one goal but two
As a matter of interest
Does the word “taxi” have a connection with you |
No way did any commentator state that the Swans had voted against VAR.
After Man City scored their 3rd goal, Ian Darke said that Man City had voted for VAR and approx 14 Premier League sides had voted against it!!
Plus are you looking into your Aberdare crystal ball or guessing that Pep didn't mention the Swans voting against VAR?? |  |
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| Retrospective refereeing. on 12:32 - Mar 17 with 1089 views | valleyboy |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 00:49 - Mar 17 by PozuelosSideys |
Well blaming Man Utd and Chelsea for voting against implementing VAR in the PL is utter bollox for a start as this was an FA Cup game and VAR was being used in the other games played today, so... |
As I said in my last post.
Perhaps Guardiola was having a dig at Swansea for them voting against VAR in the first place
Very rarely will a manager come out straight away after a match and mention about the host team and say something like “serve you right for voting against VAR”
To me it was a disguised statement in him mentioning Man U and Chelsea but was also poking the finger at Swansea in what he said
That’s one thing above all else is that he doesn’t mince his wirds | | | |
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| Retrospective refereeing. on 12:50 - Mar 17 with 1057 views | Garyjack |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 23:09 - Mar 16 by TenbySwan |
I did say 'in their eyes'
I think you are splitting hairs mate. |
Just checked, you said nothing of the sort! 
But i'll let you off withy a caution this time.  |  | | |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 12:51 - Mar 17 with 1054 views | TailGunner |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 12:32 - Mar 17 by valleyboy |
As I said in my last post.
Perhaps Guardiola was having a dig at Swansea for them voting against VAR in the first place
Very rarely will a manager come out straight away after a match and mention about the host team and say something like “serve you right for voting against VAR”
To me it was a disguised statement in him mentioning Man U and Chelsea but was also poking the finger at Swansea in what he said
That’s one thing above all else is that he doesn’t mince his wirds |
Never disappointed by Valley boy
Manages to have a dig at us after that magnificent effort.
Like watching paint dry aren't we.., | | | |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 12:52 - Mar 17 with 1052 views | theloneranger |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 12:32 - Mar 17 by valleyboy |
As I said in my last post.
Perhaps Guardiola was having a dig at Swansea for them voting against VAR in the first place
Very rarely will a manager come out straight away after a match and mention about the host team and say something like “serve you right for voting against VAR”
To me it was a disguised statement in him mentioning Man U and Chelsea but was also poking the finger at Swansea in what he said
That’s one thing above all else is that he doesn’t mince his wirds |
Pep said in his interview ... "Why is VAR not here, so, is a question for the authorities"
There was no dig at the Swans. | |
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| Retrospective refereeing. on 12:54 - Mar 17 with 1050 views | Garyjack |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 12:32 - Mar 17 by valleyboy |
As I said in my last post.
Perhaps Guardiola was having a dig at Swansea for them voting against VAR in the first place
Very rarely will a manager come out straight away after a match and mention about the host team and say something like “serve you right for voting against VAR”
To me it was a disguised statement in him mentioning Man U and Chelsea but was also poking the finger at Swansea in what he said
That’s one thing above all else is that he doesn’t mince his wirds |
Surely if he 'doesn't mince his words' he would have come straight out and said Swansea voted against it wouldn't he? | | | |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 13:14 - Mar 17 with 1014 views | ploppy |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 12:54 - Mar 17 by Garyjack |
Surely if he 'doesn't mince his words' he would have come straight out and said Swansea voted against it wouldn't he? |
There was no "vote" for the FA Cup. PL grounds only. | | | |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 13:23 - Mar 17 with 1003 views | Johnw102 |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 21:58 - Mar 16 by jewsonjack |
ref gave it. the lino didn't signal at all |
Correction I was over that side and lino indicated for a split second with his flag to the corner flag indicating CVR had touched the ball, withdrew it as soon as ref gave pen. Lacked bottle to stand by his first instinctive reaction, same as he was in a different time zone when the offside winner was scored. I am no fan of Marriner but he was let down by that prat. |  |
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| Retrospective refereeing. on 13:25 - Mar 17 with 998 views | Garyjack |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 13:14 - Mar 17 by ploppy |
There was no "vote" for the FA Cup. PL grounds only. |
Thanks, but i never said there was!  | | | |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 13:35 - Mar 17 with 975 views | ploppy |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 13:25 - Mar 17 by Garyjack |
Thanks, but i never said there was! |
It's OK, didn't say you did. Just clarifying - we did vote against VAR for the PL, but at least it's the same for every match the PL. You have the ludicrous situation in the quarter finals of the FA Cup that some matches have VAR and others don't. At least be consistent - if one match is going to be run by incompetent officials then they all should be. | | | |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 13:38 - Mar 17 with 966 views | Garyjack |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 13:35 - Mar 17 by ploppy |
It's OK, didn't say you did. Just clarifying - we did vote against VAR for the PL, but at least it's the same for every match the PL. You have the ludicrous situation in the quarter finals of the FA Cup that some matches have VAR and others don't. At least be consistent - if one match is going to be run by incompetent officials then they all should be. |
Indeed, whichever way you look at it, in all probability if VAR had been available last night then we would be planning our trip to Wembley. | | | |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 13:44 - Mar 17 with 953 views | JBT95 |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 22:32 - Mar 16 by Luther27 |
Ending in Laporte hitting one of ours in front of the ref ending in a yellow instead of a red card. |
He should've been booked already though. |  | | |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 14:14 - Mar 17 with 919 views | valleyboy |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 13:23 - Mar 17 by Johnw102 |
Correction I was over that side and lino indicated for a split second with his flag to the corner flag indicating CVR had touched the ball, withdrew it as soon as ref gave pen. Lacked bottle to stand by his first instinctive reaction, same as he was in a different time zone when the offside winner was scored. I am no fan of Marriner but he was let down by that prat. |
I think that if you check the highlights and to be fair to the linesman. At no time did he point for a corner kick, but in fact put his flag down pointing in the other direction
It was Mariner’s decision and his alone | | | |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 14:20 - Mar 17 with 909 views | valleyboy |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 12:32 - Mar 17 by theloneranger |
No way did any commentator state that the Swans had voted against VAR.
After Man City scored their 3rd goal, Ian Darke said that Man City had voted for VAR and approx 14 Premier League sides had voted against it!!
Plus are you looking into your Aberdare crystal ball or guessing that Pep didn't mention the Swans voting against VAR?? |
“No way did a commentator state that the Swans had voted against VAR”
In fact I have just checked and in fact it was said twice In that game | | | |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 14:28 - Mar 17 with 899 views | theloneranger |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 13:44 - Mar 17 by JBT95 |
He should've been booked already though. |
It showed Dan's inexperience last night on approx 50 mins? when he raced through on the left hand side with Laporte the next defender, but Dan turned into traffic on the inside.
When with more experience he would have gone passed Laporte on the outside, giving the defender massive problems with him being already on a yellow.
Laporte should definately have had a yellow in the first half and then would have been sent off at halftime, but if it that had happened then Marriner would have sh1t out at halftime.
This is not a criticism of Dan in what I've written above. | |
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| Retrospective refereeing. on 14:32 - Mar 17 with 896 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 14:28 - Mar 17 by theloneranger |
It showed Dan's inexperience last night on approx 50 mins? when he raced through on the left hand side with Laporte the next defender, but Dan turned into traffic on the inside.
When with more experience he would have gone passed Laporte on the outside, giving the defender massive problems with him being already on a yellow.
Laporte should definately have had a yellow in the first half and then would have been sent off at halftime, but if it that had happened then Marriner would have sh1t out at halftime.
This is not a criticism of Dan in what I've written above. |
See, you recognise that a player like Dan has the tools to be a superb player, but lacks experience and is only part-way through his development - much like a number of other players in the squad. Its why our fans need to cut them slack - it was shown up against WBA. Dominated, but came up short. Lots of good prospects, but they need time. If they were further along, theyd be sat on the benches of PL clubs | |
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| Retrospective refereeing. on 14:42 - Mar 17 with 877 views | westwalesed |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 21:08 - Mar 16 by bluey_the_blue |
So its then conditional as to how it can be enabled?
Bedlington Terriers have a magical cup run, making it to quarter-finals. Lose to Swansea due to a blatant foul by VDH, where he chops off the attackers legs with a chainsaw in the box. Ref rules it happened outside, no VAR.
Swansea then draw away to Liverpool in the semi-finals, for purposes of the example played at Anfield. VDH, emboldened by getting away with amputation tries the same thing this time on Salah. Aha! This time VAR is present, wham, Dutchie passes on the left hand side as he trots back to dressing room, Swansea eliminated after penalty given.
And... what if all teams left in fifth round don't have VAR facilitiies - it would never be used in the cup?
The problem with VAR is it's ok for the top teams who have the facilities. It's ok for leagues that are static, ie MLS. Other than that, it's a two tier approach between have and have nots which is one of the fundamental problems with VAR. A bad decision is a bad decision regardless of the level it occurs at. You can either try to make all decisions correct at all levels or just accept official errors are part of the game in the same way player errors are. A half and half approach isn't something I'm comfortable with. |
Late to this thread but an outstanding post. I was trying to say this to my mates yesterday - you literally have two forms of the game within the same competition! If the exact scenario had been reversed yesterday, we were at the Ethihad, Citeh win 2-1. It’s ridiculous. | |
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| Retrospective refereeing. on 19:26 - Mar 17 with 791 views | TNT |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 20:38 - Mar 16 by Garyjack |
The linesman didn't raise his flag for the pen, he was in a better position, yet Mariner didn't consult him. |
Agree. | |
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| Retrospective refereeing. on 21:27 - Mar 17 with 740 views | Flashberryjack |
| Retrospective refereeing. on 20:25 - Mar 16 by ploppy |
TBH, I don't think it's "big team decisions". It's just incompetent officiating.
Marriner was in an awful position for the pen - there's no way he had a clear view. So either he guessed, or the lino gave it. Then again, if Sterling doesn't go down like he's been shot, they don't get the pen. So basically, the pen is a combination of cheating and poor officiating. What gets me is that it probably didn't cross Marriner's mind that Sterling might have dived.
Aguero's goal is offside - plain and simple. That's the lino's fault. Again, just incompetence. |
And that lino is the epitome of incompetence, |  |
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