| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail 11:26 - Dec 11 with 8247 views | WanderR |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20677515
"The number of foreign-born residents in England and Wales has risen by nearly three million since 2001 to 7.5 million people, the 2011 census shows.
The most common birthplaces outside of the UK for residents are India, Poland and Pakistan. The number of ethnic white British has dropped by 7%."
"- Muslims now make up 4.8% of the population of England and Wales
- The white British population has fallen 400,000 since 2001, now 80% down from 87%
- 45% of Londoners are white British, down from 58% in 2001
- 4.8 million people hold a foreign passport: 2.3 million from the EU and 2.4 million from outside the EU" |  |
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 21:55 - Dec 11 with 1732 views | klr |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 21:42 - Dec 11 by RBlock |
It's an expanding society mate. They need somewhere to live? We build more houses which creates jobs. They pay taxes, we build schools, employ teachers, more jobs. The infrastructure is being strained? We expand it however that may be. The city will grow bigger, it is inevitable. |
Dont agree with any of that.
There are tens of millions of people from the third world living in this country on full socialist welfare.
There is no economic benefit to this country & its people, none at all.
It's a complete disaster in anyone's language. |  | | |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:00 - Dec 11 with 1731 views | THEBUSH |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 21:55 - Dec 11 by klr |
Dont agree with any of that.
There are tens of millions of people from the third world living in this country on full socialist welfare.
There is no economic benefit to this country & its people, none at all.
It's a complete disaster in anyone's language. |
Your living in the past, it ain't gonna change, you'd better get used to it or you'll end up a miserable old git like me !! [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:03 - Dec 11 with 1715 views | klr |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:00 - Dec 11 by THEBUSH |
Your living in the past, it ain't gonna change, you'd better get used to it or you'll end up a miserable old git like me !! [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:06 - Dec 11 with 1716 views | easthertsr |
same old 'I'm not a racist but' stuff I've been hearing for years.the fact is people move to different countries to better themselves and their families, us Brits have been doing it for generations.We are in the economic excrement creek at the moment because the whole world is in recession and our government doesn't have a clue what to do except cut help for the poor, sick and elderly. Blaming immigrants for this has been a tactic of the daily Mail and it's friends for decades. | | | |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:06 - Dec 11 with 1716 views | loftboy |
Don't give a fark who lives here as long as they live by our values and don't try to impose there culture over ours, they should all learn to speak English and have to turn a blind eye if anything that is acceptable under our laws is not acceptable to them. If they don't like it then don't come here. |  |
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:14 - Dec 11 with 1702 views | klr |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:06 - Dec 11 by easthertsr |
same old 'I'm not a racist but' stuff I've been hearing for years.the fact is people move to different countries to better themselves and their families, us Brits have been doing it for generations.We are in the economic excrement creek at the moment because the whole world is in recession and our government doesn't have a clue what to do except cut help for the poor, sick and elderly. Blaming immigrants for this has been a tactic of the daily Mail and it's friends for decades. |
Its the sheer numbers that is the problem, some of you dont seem to be able to grasp the reality of what we are facing here.
And you are wrong, there are many countries in the world that do not have tens of millions of people from the third world living in their countries on full socialist welfare that are booming economically; Brazil, Russia, India, China.
This is a disease of the West that has spiralled completely out of control & has / will result in financial & cultural apocalypse, certainly for this country.
Happy Christmas! ( I think I'm still allowed to say that )
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:26 - Dec 11 with 1699 views | easthertsr |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:14 - Dec 11 by klr |
Its the sheer numbers that is the problem, some of you dont seem to be able to grasp the reality of what we are facing here.
And you are wrong, there are many countries in the world that do not have tens of millions of people from the third world living in their countries on full socialist welfare that are booming economically; Brazil, Russia, India, China.
This is a disease of the West that has spiralled completely out of control & has / will result in financial & cultural apocalypse, certainly for this country.
Happy Christmas! ( I think I'm still allowed to say that )
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apocalypse! I don't think so, Happy Christmas to you as well, you are still allowed to say that [don't believe what the mail says!]the countries you list have among them some of the poorest people on this planet living there. Some of these countries have appalling human rights, I for one know where I would rather live.Can you also explain the phrase full socialist welfare, when benefits to our poorest citizens are being cut by a Tory government? | | | |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:37 - Dec 11 with 1682 views | derbyhoop |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 21:55 - Dec 11 by klr |
Dont agree with any of that.
There are tens of millions of people from the third world living in this country on full socialist welfare.
There is no economic benefit to this country & its people, none at all.
It's a complete disaster in anyone's language. |
I wouldn't worry too much. Newly arrived immigrants are not entitled to ANY monetary benefits until they've been here 12 months.
So if they don't work, they don't have any money.
But don't let facts get in the way of a good rant. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:38 - Dec 11 with 1673 views | klr |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:37 - Dec 11 by derbyhoop |
I wouldn't worry too much. Newly arrived immigrants are not entitled to ANY monetary benefits until they've been here 12 months.
So if they don't work, they don't have any money.
But don't let facts get in the way of a good rant. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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Well that's clearly not true is it ?
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:40 - Dec 11 with 1673 views | RBlock |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 21:55 - Dec 11 by klr |
Dont agree with any of that.
There are tens of millions of people from the third world living in this country on full socialist welfare.
There is no economic benefit to this country & its people, none at all.
It's a complete disaster in anyone's language. |
And there are many more immigrants in this country working, increasing economic productivity and contributing to society. Where does this idea that 'all immigrants sit around on the dole all day in council housing, claiming disability while vehemently trying to change British culture' come from? 30% of NHS professionals were not born in Britain. Millions of other skilled immigrants come into the country every year benefiting this country massively so why focus on the negative few? |  | | |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:42 - Dec 11 with 1664 views | klr |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:26 - Dec 11 by easthertsr |
apocalypse! I don't think so, Happy Christmas to you as well, you are still allowed to say that [don't believe what the mail says!]the countries you list have among them some of the poorest people on this planet living there. Some of these countries have appalling human rights, I for one know where I would rather live.Can you also explain the phrase full socialist welfare, when benefits to our poorest citizens are being cut by a Tory government? |
Listen I'm not going to argue with you suffice to say that I disagree.
I've already said that I think the problem is a much bigger Western political / cultural "malaise" than what you attribute to cuts by a Tory government, I think the problem is much much bigger than that.
If people think we can assimilate 20 million people many of whom are from completely alien cultures that are hostile to The West, then good luck to you, I disagree.
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:43 - Dec 11 with 1657 views | RBlock |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:38 - Dec 11 by klr |
Well that's clearly not true is it ?
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Weeeeelllllll it is unless they seek Asylum which is a completely different thing. In fact even people from inside the EU can only come here to look for work for 3 months, and they are means tested to prevent them becoming a state burden. | | | |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:43 - Dec 11 with 1652 views | klr |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:40 - Dec 11 by RBlock |
And there are many more immigrants in this country working, increasing economic productivity and contributing to society. Where does this idea that 'all immigrants sit around on the dole all day in council housing, claiming disability while vehemently trying to change British culture' come from? 30% of NHS professionals were not born in Britain. Millions of other skilled immigrants come into the country every year benefiting this country massively so why focus on the negative few? |
"the negative few"
Even you dont believe that, do you ? | | | |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:45 - Dec 11 with 1587 views | derbyhoop |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:38 - Dec 11 by klr |
Well that's clearly not true is it ?
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This is taken from the website of the UK Border Agency.
If you have been given permission to live in the UK, this permission may include the condition that you have 'no recourse to public funds'. If so, you will not be able to claim most benefits, tax credits or housing assistance that are paid by the state.
Public funds include a range of benefits that are given to people on a low income, as well as housing support. These are:
income-based jobseeker's allowance;
income support;
child tax credit;
working tax credit;
a social fund payment;
child benefit;
housing benefit;
council tax benefit;
state pension credit;
attendance allowance;
severe disablement allowance;
carer's allowance;
disability living allowance;
an allocation of local authority housing;
local authority homelessness assistance;
health in pregnancy grant; and
income-related employment and support allowance.
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| "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the Earth all one's lifetime." (Mark Twain)
Find me on twitter @derbyhoop and now on Bluesky |
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:45 - Dec 11 with 1586 views | klr |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:43 - Dec 11 by RBlock |
Weeeeelllllll it is unless they seek Asylum which is a completely different thing. In fact even people from inside the EU can only come here to look for work for 3 months, and they are means tested to prevent them becoming a state burden. |
In other news "Official" figures revealed that Crime in Britain is at a thirty year low.
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:50 - Dec 11 with 1577 views | derbyhoop |
Is prejudice a condition when you cannot read the facts presented.
I suggest you read the quote in my signature. It applies. | |
| "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the Earth all one's lifetime." (Mark Twain)
Find me on twitter @derbyhoop and now on Bluesky |
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| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:51 - Dec 11 with 1575 views | RBlock |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:45 - Dec 11 by klr |
In other news "Official" figures revealed that Crime in Britain is at a thirty year low.
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Article 9 of Directive 2004/36 of the European Parliament. Go on mate. Google it. Your wrong. | | | |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:59 - Dec 11 with 1559 views | RBlock |
Love it, I am procrastinating, not doing my EU Law assignment on the free movement of workers ect. and I end up here weighing in on a debate about immigration...  | | | |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 23:01 - Dec 11 with 1555 views | klr |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:50 - Dec 11 by derbyhoop |
Is prejudice a condition when you cannot read the facts presented.
I suggest you read the quote in my signature. It applies. |
Accused of being prejudiced & a bigot in the same post, textbook!
Thank God Leftists like you could never be accused of such things..................... | | | |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 12:03 - Dec 12 with 1484 views | WanderR |
| Christmas has come early for the Daily Mail on 22:14 - Dec 11 by klr |
Its the sheer numbers that is the problem, some of you dont seem to be able to grasp the reality of what we are facing here.
And you are wrong, there are many countries in the world that do not have tens of millions of people from the third world living in their countries on full socialist welfare that are booming economically; Brazil, Russia, India, China.
This is a disease of the West that has spiralled completely out of control & has / will result in financial & cultural apocalypse, certainly for this country.
Happy Christmas! ( I think I'm still allowed to say that )
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"There are many countries in the world that do not have tens of millions of people from the third world living in their countries on full socialist welfare"
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