| where's Adel 17:37 - Sep 1 with 18438 views | warwickhoop |
Hasn't even made the bench.
I know its horses for courses but Dyer making the Bench in front of Adel.
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| where's Adel on 23:20 - Sep 1 with 1910 views | SL4_Ranger |
| where's Adel on 22:48 - Sep 1 by RangersAreBack |
Until Adel learns that it's a team game, he'll find himself on the periphery. |
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| where's Adel on 23:46 - Sep 1 with 1872 views | QPR_ARG |
| where's Adel on 20:06 - Sep 1 by SL4_Ranger |
ridiculous. You're saying because of his shirt number. He has to start, even if he has been playing terrible. Laughable. |
No. I'm not saying that! Give me some credit (and respect!)
I'm saying if Hughes gives him a new contract and the number 10 shirt, then it is surely not a case of Adel falling off with the manager. That's my point.
Still not sure what happened today with him not even on the bench. I heard Hughes say good things about Adel in the run-in last season.
And the one who said Adel doesn't pass the ball must have been watching a different QPR when we got promoted and Adel had like 20 assists. Not his fault DJ Campbell misses in front of goal at home against Man Utd (for example).
He constantly creates chances and he gives the rest of the team a breather keeping the ball at his feet. Yes, he loses the ball at times and exposes the team, but that's what happens to play-makers when they try to play and not hoof it!
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| where's Adel on 23:46 - Sep 1 with 1872 views | Cornish_oooRRRR |
It's a squad, not a team. Long hard season ahead.
Can't believe how many posters are so sure of themselves so early in the season re: tactics, personnel, MH's opinions. |  |
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| where's Adel on 23:57 - Sep 1 with 1853 views | QPR_ARG |
One more thing...surrounded by better players, he'll have a better platform than last season to show what he can do.
No disrespect to the players we had around Adel last season, but they are nowhere near the standard we have now.
These new guys (plus the return of Alejandro) will give Adel partners with whom to play the ball at feet, play one-twos, try a trick or two and actually have some cover behind if he loses the ball, etc.
Granero, Park, Hoilett, Diakité, FaurlÃn...they all have some technique in them and for most of them it comes with tactical awareness too.
Add the fact that we have a couple strikers that can actually find the back of the net at this level and you have yourself a pretty solid proposition.
Can't wait to see Adel starting every single week. That's what he needs and that (even if it hurts some people on this thread/board) is what QPR need too.
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| where's Adel on 00:01 - Sep 2 with 1849 views | Antti_Heinola |
always a fun topic this. adel kept us in the championship, won us the league, and got us out of trouble 2nd half of last season with a series of mature and crucial performances, goals and assists. But for some it'll never be enough. every time in the last 2 and a half years when we've been desperate, he's pulled something out the bag far more often than anyone else... cardiff home and away, watford away, barnsley away, spurs and arsenal and stoke at home... i could go on. a talisman. he'll be back. he always comes back. |  |
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| where's Adel on 00:19 - Sep 2 with 1830 views | MelakaRanger |
| where's Adel on 19:46 - Sep 1 by SpiritofGregory |
Can't play him away at Man City because he doesn't pass the ball and is not interested in tracking back. That's why he never made it at Spurs, he is not a team player. |
EXACTLY
And to be honest when Dyer came on he performed OK. Maybe just maybe he will be useful for us. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| where's Adel on 00:37 - Sep 2 with 1804 views | kensalriser |
Fcking stupid conversation again, for the millionth time.
Taarabt was just about the only player v Swansea trying to make something happen, same thing happened in several games last season. Just as he did when we lost 3-0 at Ipswich a couple of years ago, only player worth the ticket price. Done just great in the league games since he was dropped, haven't we?
He may not be the best player in the squad any more but he's comfortably in the best half a dozen and I know who I'd rather keep at Rangers between him and Hughes, who has shown nothing to convince me so far that he has any talent whatsoever as a manager. Dyer and Wright-Phillips ahead of him is a joke.
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| where's Adel on 02:39 - Sep 2 with 1766 views | Pommyhoop |
| where's Adel on 20:25 - Sep 1 by smegma |
He was withdrawn as hes in the world angling championships tomorrow morning. |
Bob Nudd is sh!tting himself .. |  |
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| where's Adel on 02:42 - Sep 2 with 1764 views | Pommyhoop |
| where's Adel on 00:01 - Sep 2 by Antti_Heinola |
always a fun topic this. adel kept us in the championship, won us the league, and got us out of trouble 2nd half of last season with a series of mature and crucial performances, goals and assists. But for some it'll never be enough. every time in the last 2 and a half years when we've been desperate, he's pulled something out the bag far more often than anyone else... cardiff home and away, watford away, barnsley away, spurs and arsenal and stoke at home... i could go on. a talisman. he'll be back. he always comes back. |
this .Whats funny .Hughes knows this .He knew it last season And he will know it this season .Even Warnock knew it when he was crawling up Barton's arse...and started to play him again.. | |
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| where's Adel on 07:27 - Sep 2 with 1707 views | DylanP |
| where's Adel on 20:06 - Sep 1 by SL4_Ranger |
ridiculous. You're saying because of his shirt number. He has to start, even if he has been playing terrible. Laughable. |
No he wasnt saying that. He was saying that the fact that MH just gave him a new contract and the number 10 shirt is a sign that MH rates him.
That was a different point to the last sentence. I'm just sayin!
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| where's Adel on 09:23 - Sep 2 with 1632 views | real_loftus |
| where's Adel on 00:01 - Sep 2 by Antti_Heinola |
always a fun topic this. adel kept us in the championship, won us the league, and got us out of trouble 2nd half of last season with a series of mature and crucial performances, goals and assists. But for some it'll never be enough. every time in the last 2 and a half years when we've been desperate, he's pulled something out the bag far more often than anyone else... cardiff home and away, watford away, barnsley away, spurs and arsenal and stoke at home... i could go on. a talisman. he'll be back. he always comes back. |
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| where's Adel on 09:58 - Sep 2 with 1595 views | Joolzz |
| where's Adel on 22:16 - Sep 1 by Suffolk |
Adel is a luxury no team can afford when you are at the base of the league. Hughes likes all his players to put in a good defensive shift when we do not have possession. I concede that Adel has improved greatly in this respect but he is still a defensive liability. He needs a team built around him. The introduction of Granero and Hoillet indicates to me that Adel will be a bit part player at best. |
Does anyone actually know why he was left out of the suad yesterday,or is it all just guesswork?...if it is,then my guess would be that MH,knowing we would have to spend large parts of the game chasing shadows,chose to have SWP,Park,Mackie-type players rather than Adel.
Dont see anything wrong with that,IF that is what he was thinking.
For people to be questioning his value to the team is unbelievable imo.Without Adel last season,we would have been relegated if it hadnt been for his contributions v Arsenal,Spurs and Swansea,when we at the "base" of the league.
Totally disagree with your opinion that Granero and Hoillet were bought to replace Adel.Having 7-8 players that can all play in a front 4-5,interchanging positions with fluidity and pace,looks more like the way we are going to me.
All of our great teams have always had a "playmaker" or a highly gifted technical player that people love to watch.Marsh and Bowles were before my time.Wegerle,Byrne.Ferdinand and Sinclair,though not playmakers,were heroes.Lee Cook had 2 unbelievable seasons when he was unplayable.Its players like those,who produce the moments to remember,and Adel totally fits in that catergory.I dont go home after a match,replaying the way Park ran 20 miles tracking players back,and slide tackling everyone in sight.Adel beating 3 players and hitting the post or a 20 yard pass with the outside of the boot is the stuff i do like to think about,because i know,very very few players can do that.
We should be celebrating the fact we have a player with a unique and unbelievable talent that most players would kill to have.It takes 10 times more courage to pull off what Adel regulary does,than it does to run yourself into the ground tracking-back.
Oh,and hello to Gazza...remember having a similar conversation regarding Cookie years ago....  |  | | |
| where's Adel on 10:19 - Sep 2 with 1556 views | Fearless |
| where's Adel on 09:58 - Sep 2 by Joolzz |
Does anyone actually know why he was left out of the suad yesterday,or is it all just guesswork?...if it is,then my guess would be that MH,knowing we would have to spend large parts of the game chasing shadows,chose to have SWP,Park,Mackie-type players rather than Adel.
Dont see anything wrong with that,IF that is what he was thinking.
For people to be questioning his value to the team is unbelievable imo.Without Adel last season,we would have been relegated if it hadnt been for his contributions v Arsenal,Spurs and Swansea,when we at the "base" of the league.
Totally disagree with your opinion that Granero and Hoillet were bought to replace Adel.Having 7-8 players that can all play in a front 4-5,interchanging positions with fluidity and pace,looks more like the way we are going to me.
All of our great teams have always had a "playmaker" or a highly gifted technical player that people love to watch.Marsh and Bowles were before my time.Wegerle,Byrne.Ferdinand and Sinclair,though not playmakers,were heroes.Lee Cook had 2 unbelievable seasons when he was unplayable.Its players like those,who produce the moments to remember,and Adel totally fits in that catergory.I dont go home after a match,replaying the way Park ran 20 miles tracking players back,and slide tackling everyone in sight.Adel beating 3 players and hitting the post or a 20 yard pass with the outside of the boot is the stuff i do like to think about,because i know,very very few players can do that.
We should be celebrating the fact we have a player with a unique and unbelievable talent that most players would kill to have.It takes 10 times more courage to pull off what Adel regulary does,than it does to run yourself into the ground tracking-back.
Oh,and hello to Gazza...remember having a similar conversation regarding Cookie years ago.... |
Spot on.
Also, for those that say Adel isn't our best player anymore, I disagree.
Currently:
He's still our best player because he's done it.
He was the catalyst for our promotion
He scored or made the goals.
Moments of sheer brilliance
He came good last season too.
All the other players we've signed have achieved nothing for us yet.
I hope they do, but currently nothing - they may have great pedigrees, but let's wait and see - once they achieve, then let's hold them in high regard.
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| where's Adel on 10:24 - Sep 2 with 1541 views | ThGrimRanger |
Can't remember a debate that has split opinion down the middle like this one.
As for me I'm in the 'he's a liability' camp. Just have to look at the way he struts around to realise he's a total cock.
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| where's Adel on 10:25 - Sep 2 with 1679 views | ted_hendrix |
Some of the slating of Adel Taarabt being written on this thread is utter nonsense. |  |
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| where's Adel on 10:31 - Sep 2 with 1659 views | baz_qpr |
| where's Adel on 09:58 - Sep 2 by Joolzz |
Does anyone actually know why he was left out of the suad yesterday,or is it all just guesswork?...if it is,then my guess would be that MH,knowing we would have to spend large parts of the game chasing shadows,chose to have SWP,Park,Mackie-type players rather than Adel.
Dont see anything wrong with that,IF that is what he was thinking.
For people to be questioning his value to the team is unbelievable imo.Without Adel last season,we would have been relegated if it hadnt been for his contributions v Arsenal,Spurs and Swansea,when we at the "base" of the league.
Totally disagree with your opinion that Granero and Hoillet were bought to replace Adel.Having 7-8 players that can all play in a front 4-5,interchanging positions with fluidity and pace,looks more like the way we are going to me.
All of our great teams have always had a "playmaker" or a highly gifted technical player that people love to watch.Marsh and Bowles were before my time.Wegerle,Byrne.Ferdinand and Sinclair,though not playmakers,were heroes.Lee Cook had 2 unbelievable seasons when he was unplayable.Its players like those,who produce the moments to remember,and Adel totally fits in that catergory.I dont go home after a match,replaying the way Park ran 20 miles tracking players back,and slide tackling everyone in sight.Adel beating 3 players and hitting the post or a 20 yard pass with the outside of the boot is the stuff i do like to think about,because i know,very very few players can do that.
We should be celebrating the fact we have a player with a unique and unbelievable talent that most players would kill to have.It takes 10 times more courage to pull off what Adel regulary does,than it does to run yourself into the ground tracking-back.
Oh,and hello to Gazza...remember having a similar conversation regarding Cookie years ago.... |
hughes said he left him out to have 2 central midfielders on the bench to cover the fact that Ale and Grenero had not played for some time and might need subbing.
I'd also add that the decision to play 4-4-2 and the need for Fabio to be covered at left back meant that Park was the only the option on the left. and If Park played on the left the only other position was on the right. He chose SWP for defensive reasons.
IMHO I think both the formation and SWP were wrong, however we did play well for the last 20. I also think that if we are going to play 4-4-2 Park is going start and that leaves Hoilett / Adel and SWP for the remaining wide position. |  | | |
| where's Adel on 10:35 - Sep 2 with 1652 views | carrotcrunch_R |
He has been by far our most skilful player can change a game in seconds does a lot more good than bad in a game . Too me he needs confidence to be at his best and when he tries something crazy he should be encourage and not slaughtered just because that is the type of player he is but in this country we don't like seeing tricks in case the ball is giving to the opponents. |  | | |
| where's Adel on 10:39 - Sep 2 with 1636 views | baz_qpr |
I don't understand why he is been given such a hard time for Swansea. The set up was all wrong, he was played out of position in centre midfield and told to do a Zidane role, it did not work and he seems to be carrying the can for a diabolical piece of management | | | |
| where's Adel on 10:48 - Sep 2 with 1621 views | SpiritofGregory |
| where's Adel on 09:58 - Sep 2 by Joolzz |
Does anyone actually know why he was left out of the suad yesterday,or is it all just guesswork?...if it is,then my guess would be that MH,knowing we would have to spend large parts of the game chasing shadows,chose to have SWP,Park,Mackie-type players rather than Adel.
Dont see anything wrong with that,IF that is what he was thinking.
For people to be questioning his value to the team is unbelievable imo.Without Adel last season,we would have been relegated if it hadnt been for his contributions v Arsenal,Spurs and Swansea,when we at the "base" of the league.
Totally disagree with your opinion that Granero and Hoillet were bought to replace Adel.Having 7-8 players that can all play in a front 4-5,interchanging positions with fluidity and pace,looks more like the way we are going to me.
All of our great teams have always had a "playmaker" or a highly gifted technical player that people love to watch.Marsh and Bowles were before my time.Wegerle,Byrne.Ferdinand and Sinclair,though not playmakers,were heroes.Lee Cook had 2 unbelievable seasons when he was unplayable.Its players like those,who produce the moments to remember,and Adel totally fits in that catergory.I dont go home after a match,replaying the way Park ran 20 miles tracking players back,and slide tackling everyone in sight.Adel beating 3 players and hitting the post or a 20 yard pass with the outside of the boot is the stuff i do like to think about,because i know,very very few players can do that.
We should be celebrating the fact we have a player with a unique and unbelievable talent that most players would kill to have.It takes 10 times more courage to pull off what Adel regulary does,than it does to run yourself into the ground tracking-back.
Oh,and hello to Gazza...remember having a similar conversation regarding Cookie years ago.... |
Football has changed. Clubs now want the complete player, if Adel was so great he'd have a host of clubs after him but he doesn't this is because of his reputation of not being a team player and throwing his dollies out the pram when things don't go his way. He'd rather satisfy his own ego and try tricks, flicks and attempt to go past 4 players instead of doing a simple early pass which would be more effective. He thinks that he can do in the Premiership what he did in the Championship - he can't. Look at Scott Sinclair, many were split on who was the better player in the Championship. It's Sinclair who has managed to secure a move to a Champions League club not Adel. This is because he has technical ability and is also a team player. Prior to Ale Faurlin getting injured it was he that other clubs were looking at not Adel, Faurlin was being tracked by Real Madrid.
Successful footbal clubs want the Silva's, Modrics and Faurlin's of this world not your Taarabts. If Adel wants to play for one of footballs elite clubs he needs to change his attitude.
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| where's Adel on 11:47 - Sep 2 with 1567 views | SpiritofGregory |
I don't rate SWP, he was a very poor signing and needs a slap everytime he shoots when there's a player directly in front of him. However, it doesn't change the fact that Adel needs to adapt his game. | | | |
| where's Adel on 13:00 - Sep 2 with 1525 views | Antti_Heinola |
| where's Adel on 10:24 - Sep 2 by ThGrimRanger |
Can't remember a debate that has split opinion down the middle like this one.
As for me I'm in the 'he's a liability' camp. Just have to look at the way he struts around to realise he's a total cock.
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Seems like a really nice lad to me whenever he's interviewed. But if you can make a judgement from someone's gait you're a better man than me. | |
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| where's Adel on 19:09 - Sep 2 with 1401 views | NW5Hoop |
| where's Adel on 20:53 - Sep 1 by Hulahoop7 |
Have you seen him play? He got away with alot of it in championship because of the level of opposition. Needs to realise he's its a team game and in the prem running the ball down blind alleys will be punished. |
Don't you remember the way he played in the home wins at the tail end of last season, when he was superb, under Hughes? | | | |
| where's Adel on 19:30 - Sep 2 with 1382 views | Dan_Aykroyd |
| where's Adel on 11:47 - Sep 2 by SpiritofGregory |
I don't rate SWP, he was a very poor signing and needs a slap everytime he shoots when there's a player directly in front of him. However, it doesn't change the fact that Adel needs to adapt his game. |
Adapt his game? Go on...can you elaborate? | | | |
| where's Adel on 19:58 - Sep 2 with 1352 views | essextaxiboy |
| where's Adel on 19:09 - Sep 2 by NW5Hoop |
Don't you remember the way he played in the home wins at the tail end of last season, when he was superb, under Hughes? |
He needs a midfield player to feed him the ball . In our promotion season it was Ale , rewind all his goals and thats where the ball came from .
In the run in for last season it was ........ Barton .
Now Faurlin is back expect to see some magic from Adel , if selected . |  | | |
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